Lori Alexander 19: Hating Birth Control, Consistency, and Logic

[Koala]

30 minutes ago, pook said:

Thanks guys, I dipped my toes in...  I watched the 'older woman' video and WTF!  She's quite the piece of work isn't she?  So is she calling herself an old lady, trying to justify her choices, humble bragging?  Me thinks all of the above.  How old is this woman?  She is very me me me.

I *think* the other day she said 58. 

[feministxtian]

1 minute ago, Koala said:

I *think* the other day she said 58. 

She's 5 years older than I am...and I think I have her beat looks wise...I've been told I don't look my age (or act it either). This was taken about 2 years ago...I'm still fat and my bangs are maybe a bit shorter. 

[SuperNova]

Good grief, she's not even 60 years old and blathers on about being "her age"? So many folks these days look and stay full of vitality into their 70's and beyond. I have friends that are the same age as poor, long suffering, ancient Lori and they are healthy and engaging people with active social lives. Even my parents who are in their 70's with a multitude of health problems don't act like this. There have been so many advances in health and nutrition that folks just don't age like they used to. Lori is such a fucking martyr. 

@feministxtian You definitely have Lori beat. Cute kitty by the way. I have three fur babies of my own. 

 

[feministxtian]

3 minutes ago, SuperNova said:

 

@feministxtian You definitely have Lori beat. Cute kitty by the way. I have three fur babies of my own. 

 

That's Leia...she was about 18 months there. She's Big Stoopid's "little" sister. Their names are Luke & Leia. Our dogs were Yoda and Anakin, so when we got the kittens, we kept w/the theme...they're boy/girl twins so it fit. 

[usmcmom]

Leia is beautiful. This is my kitty, Bitsy. Pleas don't judge. Our daughter was seven when she named her. This photo was taken today just after we broke the news that two new kittens are arriving next week. She is not amused.  I am not optimistic about the adjustment period. 

[feministxtian]

She's GORGEOUS!!!! And...Bitsy is a perfectly reasonable kitty name...they're just itsy bitsy little things as kittens! She does not look pleased. My two idiots (and they are idiots) would NOT be pleased at the addition of any sort of pet...they rule the roost!

[louisa05]

My aunt was the full time sitter, five days a week, for her two grandkids until they were old enough to be home alone. They are 25 and 22 now and she started caring for them when the youngest was a baby, so she would have been 56 when she started. She never complained once or said she was too old. She is 78 now and my uncle is 81. They still volunteer at an elementary school for two hours a week working with first graders. 

Lori needs to get over herself. Many grandparents are caregivers, some are even guardians to grandchildren because the parents cannot be for whatever reason, without whining that they are too old. 

[usmcmom]

10 minutes ago, feministxtian said:

She's GORGEOUS!!!! And...Bitsy is a perfectly reasonable kitty name...they're just itsy bitsy little things as kittens! She does not look pleased. My two idiots (and they are idiots) would NOT be pleased at the addition of any sort of pet...they rule the roost!

That is exactly what she said "Since she's itsy Bitsy, I'll call her Bitsy."  Now my daughter says "I can't believe you let me giver her such a silly name." My son stuck with the "B" theme and named his kitten Boomer, this to go with our turtle, Clyde, and our yellow lab, Cookie, all of whom are gone now. 

I can assure you none of our pets was ever kicked by any member of our family. I'm lookin' at YOU, Lori. 

[Curious]

I missed a bunch of Lori threads when I was gone and I haven't had a chance to go back and read them, but I don't want to get further behind so I'm trying to catch up on the current thread and read the older ones as I have time.

I have a, probably dumb, question.  Why are the pages where Lori hand writes her drek (she has nice handwriting, possibly the first nice thing I've ever said about Lori) "notebook doodles?"

This is what I think when I think "doodle" and I suspect it's what most people think of.

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A doodle is a drawing made while a person's attention is otherwise occupied. Doodles are simple drawings that can have concrete representational meaning or may just be composed of random and abstract lines, generally without ever lifting the drawing device off of the paper, in which case it is usually called a "scribble".

 

A page with very neat handwriting doesn't even qualify as a scribble, IMO.   Her "notebook doodles" are just a page with writing as far as I can tell.  What am I missing here?

[polecat]

@usmcmom, your girl looks quite similar to my girl, who is about as spoiled as they come. Also coincidentally, her rescuers initially called her itty bitty kitty because she was so teensy when they first found her (in a trash can, grrr). 

eta: She's no longer anything like itty bitty at 11 or so pounds, lol.

[usmcmom]

8 hours ago, Curious said:

I missed a bunch of Lori threads when I was gone and I haven't had a chance to go back and read them, but I don't want to get further behind so I'm trying to catch up on the current thread and read the older ones as I have time.

I have a, probably dumb, question.  Why are the pages where Lori hand writes her drek (she has nice handwriting, possibly the first nice thing I've ever said about Lori) "notebook doodles?"

This is what I think when I think "doodle" and I suspect it's what most people think of.

 

A page with very neat handwriting doesn't even qualify as a scribble, IMO.   Her "notebook doodles" are just a page with writing as far as I can tell.  What am I missing here?

I know I referred to them as doodles early on; but I am not sure how the name stuck. I agree with the definition of "doodle" that you shared. When I first used the term for Lori's notebooks, I was thinking of her mental state and how her thoughts are rarely coherent, cohesive and meaningful. I believe all of Lori's thoughts are doodles.  She is one big mental doodle and she clearly writes them when she has nothing better to do (so ALL THE TIME)  kind of like when the rest of us are on hold on the phone. She clearly has so much time on her hands that she can pick up a noteboook and mindlessly write about bizarre topics. 

Side note; I used to doodle a lot in certain college classes.  I recently found a notebook and...yep...I was struggling to stay awake, clearly  

 

 

[EowynW]

Reading today's posts. Why do they always think people who have two incomes do it because they want more "material things?" My husband's income covers most of our needs but if I didn't work my part time job we wouldn't be able to afford dog food, cat food and etc. the supplements both of us desperately rely on to help with his asthma and my adrenal fatigue, needs for the garden, little extra needs around the or a weekend of camping just to get away, and few other small bills. We have zero debt. We just can't make it on one income. Not because we relish a fancy life 

[louisa05]

So this conversation just happened as I started reading Lori's one income post: 

Me: Oh, wow, fundie lady says anyone can live on one income no matter how small it is. 

Mr. 05: Yeah. Any ONE person can live on one income. 

Me: No, you can live on one income with a whole herd of kids and everything. 

Mr. 05: Sure. How is that supposed to work? 

Me: I don't know, but I'm sure it has something to do with women submitting. If I obeyed you, we could live on just your income. With or without kids. 

Mr. O5 (completely without bitterness): If you obeyed me, our grocery bill would be at least twice what it is now. 

Me: Excellent point. 

You see, Mr. 05 has a love of expensive junk food. He is not allowed to accompany me on the weekly shopping trips as the budget does not have room for frozen soft pretzels, frozen White Castle burgers, expensive chip dips, mountains of soda, packaged cookies, bags of candy, etc... This is not a matter of my controlling his eating habits, but of us keeping the grocery budget under control. He does occasionally spend some of his personal spending money to buy some of that crap, but it is not part of the household food budget. And he has also realized that he is healthier since we got married and he stopped living on that crap. 

[dairyfreelife]

16 minutes ago, EowynW said:

Reading today's posts. Why do they always think people who have two incomes do it because they want more "material things?" My husband's income covers most of our needs but if I didn't work my part time job we wouldn't be able to afford dog food, cat food and etc. the supplements both of us desperately rely on to help with his asthma and my adrenal fatigue, needs for the garden, little extra needs around the or a weekend of camping just to get away, and few other small bills. We have zero debt. We just can't make it on one income. Not because we relish a fancy life 

And if people do have two incomes to have more things, what concern is it of hers? She has far more material and expensive material possessions than most and necessary. Personally I don't have an issue with people being big nice homes and having nice luxury cars and expensive clothing if that's what they like and can afford, it's their money, their life. But since we're talking about Lori, who whines constantly about two incomes and tells people to live less and have less and everything, I will point out that she has and does none of those things. Wealthy people who have never been poor and never had to worry about being poor should not be the ones to tell others how to live poor. It's a general rule of life-if you haven't experienced it yourself, don't tell others how to experience it and even worse, how to deal with such experience better. 

[EowynW]

26 minutes ago, dairyfreelife said:

And if people do have two incomes to have more things, what concern is it of hers? She has far more material and expensive material possessions than most and necessary. Personally I don't have an issue with people being big nice homes and having nice luxury cars and expensive clothing if that's what they like and can afford, it's their money, their life. But since we're talking about Lori, who whines constantly about two incomes and tells people to live less and have less and everything, I will point out that she has and does none of those things. Wealthy people who have never been poor and never had to worry about being poor should not be the ones to tell others how to live poor. It's a general rule of life-if you haven't experienced it yourself, don't tell others how to experience it and even worse, how to deal with such experience better. 

Right. I grew up dirt poor. Hubby and I like to joke that we are comfortably poor now. But that's fine for now.  

[Granwych]

3 hours ago, usmcmom said:

Side note; I used to doodle a lot in certain college classes.  I recently found a notebook and...yep...I was struggling to stay awake, clearly  

That was me, too.  I remember one of my nursing instructors peering at my little sketches and saying, "interesting notes, Miss Student."

As for Lori's "doodles," I refer to everything she writes as "doody,"  aka poop, feces, etc.  You have to admit that's a perfect description.  I can't believe that I've agreed with anything Mrs. Perfect has written.

[onemama]

I just read this blog post by Gary Thomas. It's a nice contrast to the stuff Trey and Jeff write on Lori's blog. Actually, imagine if Lori turned around and told Ken, "darling, you've sacrificed a lot for me to be able to stay at home with our kids. Would you still like to pursue X (thing you sacrificed for me)?" Or Ken turned around to Lori and said... well, I don't know, something. 

Gary Thomas says:

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A cherishing marriage is built on honoring our spouse, and that includes honoring their passions, dreams, and goals. Family life sometimes insists that those dreams and goals get delayed, but is it possible now is the time to pick them back up, dust them off, and see if they can be realized?

And to husbands :

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In my book Sacred Marriage, I quote a pastor who offers a very practical application of Ephesians 5:25: “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her…” This pastor suggests that in order for us to comply with Ephesians 5, we should be able to point to something we have sacrificed on behalf of our wives: a hobby has suffered, our bank account has suffered, or maybe a promotion was delayed. We have to ask ourselves, “Am I loving my wife in such a way that it’s costing me something?”

If the answer is “No,” then we’re not loving our wives as Christ loved the church.

 

Ken, Lori and their readers love to focus on a wife giving up her dreams (she's not supposed to have them, actually), and serve, serve, serve. They have nothing against a husband demanding his way all the time.  They really should give some thought to what the Bible specifically tells them to do as husbands.  

Her post today is infuriating... Oh, lady Lori, you have no clue!

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 As long as your husband has an income, however small, you can live off it.

Maybe and maybe not. If your husband's income doesn't cover your basic needs, guess what? You can't live off it. And you may want to think about your retirement. What if your children can't support you then? It seems very irresponsible to me not to do yor best to see to your retirement. 

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Nothing is more precious to me than raising my children and caring for my family.

I agree, but that doesn't mean I can't have an income.  There's a huge spectrum between working so much you have no time for your family, and not working for money at all. 

ARRGH! I really dislike this reply merging thing! Yet another super-long post. Sorry!

[Flossie]

48 minutes ago, onemama said:

As long as your husband has an income, however small, you can live off it.

The above was something Lori posted that @onemama quoted.

Here is my reply:  

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of.

So a man has a fast food job and earns almost enough for the rent.  Is the wife supposed to remain at home praying for help from above while her children go hungry?  If the man decides to cash his check and run off for a weekend in Reno, is the wife supposed to gather her children around and tell them Bible stories while they cry themselves to sleep?  What happens when the landlord shows up to evict them?

[feministxtian]

I really HATE this bullshit of the wife's income pays for "luxuries". My income (in the past) enabled us to live in a decent neighborhood and have a nice house. Now, it enables us to get off welfare, move to a bigger place, pay for car repairs (our cars are 18 and 13 years old), groceries, cat food, cat litter, gas, and even manage to save just a little bit. I definitely don't do "luxuries"...my clothes pretty much all come from thrift stores...that 70 dollar skirt Lori bought? For the same $, I bought something like 5 outfits and some books. 

She and the rest of her ilk piss me RIGHT off! 

[onemama]

That post, "her parents taught her truth" is infuriating.  

Does Lori realize that many parents have done exactly the same things that woman's parents did, and their children have turned and walked away from God? Does she realize that we are saved by grace, and grace alone?  Not once did she mention that, by grace, that woman was saved from suffering the angst and confusion that many youths raised in Good Christian Homes (TM) suffer.   And what do we know?  That lady may be living by the letter of the law, constantly afraid that she may lose her salvation if she steps out of that letter of the law.  

I'm not saying that we shouldn't teach our children or that our teaching is in vain, but the arrogance displayed in that post only confirms how smug and self-righteous Lori is. 

 

 

 

[Free Jana Duggar]

On 5/10/2017 at 4:14 PM, Koala said:

Now she's whining about women's retreats.  She went to lots of them and still treated Ken like shit!  Must be because there was something wrong with the retreats.  It's not like Lori would have been mean, bossy, and controlling no matter what.  

Wonder how long this comment will last:

Lori can't stand mutual respect (too worldly, you know), so I am betting she'll either blast this woman or delete her all together.  

Yep, she deleted it.  So petty she can't stand for anyone to have a different view.

 

[louisa05]

You know, some of my income does buy me a luxury or two once in awhile. And some of it buys our food. And some of it pays other bills. And since some of my income pays other bills, some of husband's income buys him a luxury or two. Some of our income pays for a weekend away here and there or concert tickets sometimes. 

Because there is nothing wrong with spending a bit of hard earned money on extra stuff. 

Lori has plenty of luxuries; way more than we'll ever have with both of us working, so she should keep her damn mouth shut. 

[desertvixen]

Even if the wife's income pays for luxuries, so what? 

Also, do any of these people think about stuff like Social Security credits and elderly women living in poverty?  Oh wait, that's what the kids are for (after you beat them over raisans)...

[church_of_dog]

On May 12, 2017 at 3:35 PM, feministxtian said:

She's 5 years older than I am...and I think I have her beat looks wise...I've been told I don't look my age (or act it either). This was taken about 2 years ago...I'm still fat and my bangs are maybe a bit shorter. 

You're cute -- and whose shoulder is that you're sitting on?  

[feministxtian]

27 minutes ago, church_of_dog said:

You're cute -- and whose shoulder is that you're sitting on?  

My name is Leia. I'm a particular kitteh...my mommy's shoulders are REAL comfy. I do the shoulder thing if I head butt her and she doesn't say anything...then I have to make sure my mommy is understanding that I DEMAND attention RIGHT NOW. My brother is Luke and he's a doofus. He tries to pick fights with me and even though he's bigger, I still kick his butt. Mommy and daddy said we're moving in a few days. I'm not sure what that means...there's boxes all over the place. Daddy says we'll have more room to run around...that's a good thing. My mommy and daddy love me and my brother very much...we're very spoiled. We have lots of food, lots of treats, lots of toys and lots of cuddles and skritches. Mommy's friend Krista says that we're spoiled brats! 

Dis is my brother Luke the doofus.