Jump to content

Recommended Posts

VelociRapture
6 hours ago, Georgiana said:

I agree, @foreign fundie. Especially as she is just a teenager, and was almost certainly a minor when the alleged activity was going on.  It really crosses a line to print that, I think. 

She turned 19 in October. She would have been 18 when the intimate relationship is alleged to have began. So not a minor, but still really really distasteful to print. 

But there are news outlets and reporters that aren't really good at thinking things out. There was honestly an article that claimed with complete accuracy that the Dills obviously had sex prior to marriage because they announced she was pregnant so quickly - not thinking to, you know, check basic facts on how most Doctors and Midwives date a pregnancy. :roll:

(And before anyone points out that not all people know about pregnancy dating and all that - This was an article written to defend the Dills and the fact that they clearly had premarital sex. Basic fact checking would have done wonders and, you know, would have been part of the job.)

  • Upvote 14
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Replies 606
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Carm_88

    28

  • VelociRapture

    16

  • SuhrEnity

    15

  • MadeItOut

    15

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

1. The Dullards' second child will grace this world on July 4th, 2017. No one will care but them and then there will be much talk. Jill may potentially do something stupid. Derick will look dumb. 

Joy: "That's fine. That's fine. I don't care if people see me. It's fine." Translation Joy: "YOU ALL HAVE MADE ME LATE MY ENTIRE LIFE AND I AM NOT ABOUT TO LET YOU MAKE ME LATE TO MY OWN WED

I found the picture of Joy and Austin with the sex/ pregnancy story under it quite offensive. She is young, innocent, happy and exited about her upcoming marriage. To not even speculate, but state as

Posted Images

Carm_88

Didn't some article say something similar about Joseph and Kendra too? It was equally as icky if I remember correctly. 

  • Upvote 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
foreign fundie

 

2 hours ago, Carm_88 said:

Didn't some article say something similar about Joseph and Kendra too? It was equally as icky if I remember correctly. 

Yes, it seems to bd the trend.

I realize for many people today it is inconceivable that an engaged couple does not have sex. But the Duggars and many fundie youngsters do not actually have the physical possibility to have sex because of lack of privacy and independence. And that is assuming they even want to.

To assume, or claim that a couple is sleeping together, just because everybody you know would do that if engaged, shows little awareness of their particular situation and does not allow for the possibility that they have chosen to standards which they want to and do keep.

There is of course Josh, who had extra-marital sex. But he was a married man, and therefore there was not the same level of control. This cannot be compared to Joy's situation. Also, Joy should not be judged by Josh (lack of) standards.

 Joy as an individual who has expressed her full intention to marry as a virgin, should be taken at her word unless there is prove she lies (an 8 lbs preemie in September).

And again, apart from the extreme unlikeliness they could even have sex before marriage, people can have principles. Even if the majority culture thinks these principles out-dated, or if many other people do not follow their own principles in this matter, and even if these principles are often communicated with a sense of superiority, it does not make it right to automatically assume someone with these principles is a hypocritical liar. 

I just want her to have a fair chance to decide what she will become and not be saddled with a non-existing scandal before she is even out of her teens and out of her parents home.

 

Edited by foreign fundie
  • Upvote 20
Link to post
Share on other sites
SuhrEnity

If TLC brought him back even for a fraction of a second they'd be screwing themselves over. But then again this is TLC and I truly put nothing past them most days.

  • Upvote 5
Link to post
Share on other sites
JMO
21 minutes ago, foreign fundie said:

 

But the Duggars and many fundie youngsters do not actually have the physical possibility to have sex because of lack of privacy and independence. And that is assuming they even want to.

 

This exactly.  In Touch is clearly just making crap up.  When and where would this premarital sex have happened??  They require a chaperone at all times and aren't supposed to have any physical contact until courting.  She sleeps in a giant dorm room with her sisters, doesn't have a job, doesn't attend school, isn't allowed to go anywhere by herself.  

I hope she hasn't heard about it.  She was brought up to take great pride and care for her "purity".  This would be a terrible mean thing for her to hear.  Then again, she's pretty tough.  But she shouldn't need to go through that. 

  • Upvote 20
Link to post
Share on other sites
Four is Enough

See, I think Josh WILL be back, because he is putting himself in the place to be seen. He didn't voluntarily hide during Jinger's wedding festivities. He didn't have to. He's a bona fide member of that family, and I believe that, while he may not be in the best standing, he is still in good standing with them, or he'd have been off to the side, or "conveniently ill" so as to not ruin any fun they may have had.

Josh will be back, IMO. It's only a matter of time until he speaks. 

  • Upvote 27
Link to post
Share on other sites
SuhrEnity
1 hour ago, Four is Enough said:

Josh will be back, IMO. It's only a matter of time until he speaks. 

I agree

  • Upvote 9
Link to post
Share on other sites
Gillyweed
15 hours ago, marmalade said:

I wonder if they really did do a TH with Smuggar being thrilled with the arrival of M5, considering his less than tepid response to the news of M4.

If anyone breaks free, I think it'd be one of Josh's kids. Imagine being Meredith and one day watching your dad's reaction to having you?! 

  • Upvote 4
Link to post
Share on other sites
Four is Enough
17 minutes ago, Gillyweed said:

If anyone breaks free, I think it'd be one of Josh's kids. Imagine being Meredith and one day watching your dad's reaction to having you?! 

Aside from that, they have Anna, and she seems to have been a much more caring and hands on mother than any of the Duggars.. excepting possibly Jessa right now.

I think they'll put up with their idiot father because they do have a good (as good as she can be) mother.

  • Upvote 9
Link to post
Share on other sites
Mela99
1 hour ago, Four is Enough said:

See, I think Josh WILL be back, because he is putting himself in the place to be seen. He didn't voluntarily hide during Jinger's wedding festivities. He didn't have to. He's a bona fide member of that family, and I believe that, while he may not be in the best standing, he is still in good standing with them, or he'd have been off to the side, or "conveniently ill" so as to not ruin any fun they may have had.

Josh will be back, IMO. It's only a matter of time until he speaks. 

I firmly believe TLC is going to throw him a redemption special when M5 shows up. Then he and Anna, like Jeremy and Audrey Roloff, will start their own marriage counseling business.

  • Upvote 13
Link to post
Share on other sites
Four is Enough
1 minute ago, Mela99 said:

I firmly believe TLC is going to throw him a redemption special when M5 shows up. Then he and Anna, like Jeremy and Audrey Roloff, will start their own Christian marriage counseling business.

fixed that for you.

  • Upvote 15
Link to post
Share on other sites
SuhrEnity
1 hour ago, Mela99 said:

I firmly believe TLC is going to throw him a redemption special when M5 shows up. Then he and Anna, like Jeremy and Audrey Roloff, will start their own marriage counseling business.

Ugh how I despise Audrey Roloff. GAG GAG GAG

  • Upvote 7
Link to post
Share on other sites
VelociRapture
4 hours ago, Mela99 said:

I firmly believe TLC is going to throw him a redemption special when M5 shows up. Then he and Anna, like Jeremy and Audrey Roloff, will start their own marriage counseling business.

Ugh... I hope their daughter doesn't turn out to be as massive an asshole as these two are. Poor kid.

  • Upvote 8
Link to post
Share on other sites
frugaldreams
7 hours ago, JMO said:

This exactly.  In Touch is clearly just making crap up.  When and where would this premarital sex have happened??  They require a chaperone at all times and aren't supposed to have any physical contact until courting.  She sleeps in a giant dorm room with her sisters, doesn't have a job, doesn't attend school, isn't allowed to go anywhere by herself.  

Also, over and above this very valid point, anyone who has spent any time around teenagers who are in love and sexually active will bet dollars to donuts that Joy is not in that group. Those undeveloped teenage frontal lobes can't help themselves, even if said teens think they are being discrete it is very clear to anyone and everyone that they are in LUV! They are always touching and laughing and just generally being hormone filled mush balls. Joy and her man give off none of those vibes. Poor Joy.

 

Edited by frugaldreams
I can type. Really.
  • Upvote 3
Link to post
Share on other sites
ViolaSebastian

From the little I've seen of him, Austin appears to be an emotionless cyborg. Where they got the idea that these two couldn't keep their hands off each other is beyond me. 

  • Upvote 15
Link to post
Share on other sites
MadeItOut

Is any one else getting massive red flags from Anna's "choice" to quit the show right before all of this reintroduction of josh bs? - Add to that the way that whenever we see her somewhere that she could break away from, someone else is always 'helping' (has) at least one of the kids... I want to be wrong and jumping at shadows, but having had the family conveniently 'wanting to help' every time I was very close to breaking loose, I'm seeing a pattern that's concerning - especially if eejit-the-largest does end up with a platform to spin from.

 

Oh for a blanket fort...

  • Upvote 4
Link to post
Share on other sites
CorruptionInc.
52 minutes ago, MadeItOut said:

Is any one else getting massive red flags from Anna's "choice" to quit the show right before all of this reintroduction of josh bs? - Add to that the way that whenever we see her somewhere that she could break away from, someone else is always 'helping' (has) at least one of the kids... I want to be wrong and jumping at shadows, but having had the family conveniently 'wanting to help' every time I was very close to breaking loose, I'm seeing a pattern that's concerning - especially if eejit-the-largest does end up with a platform to spin from.

 

Oh for a blanket fort...

I'm assuming the family offer to help because they don't want any risk Anna might break away. They may think they're helping, but I do believe there would be a big dose of "we have to make sure she doesn't say anything that damages the brand".

Edited by CorruptionInc.
The to that - Corruption is sleepy and grumpy today
  • Upvote 5
Link to post
Share on other sites
HideousGreenShirt

Not convinced that Smuggar will be on the show, however I wouldn't be too surprised; this is TLC we're discussing. I think they could do a couple of those webisodes as other posters have suggested, a feature when the new M spawn arrives or even a brief catch-up segment.

Those sad Anna scenes were difficult to watch. I can see TLC allowing some Smuggar family screen time just to repair their public image and the Duggars going along with it so they could have good testimony on how Jesus Jail™ removed Satan's heart-fortress and now they are a happy family again. 

  • Upvote 6
Link to post
Share on other sites
Dandruff

Since Josh has (supposedly) been banned from TLC, could he get some airtime on another channel?

  • Upvote 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
singsingsing
1 hour ago, MadeItOut said:

Is any one else getting massive red flags from Anna's "choice" to quit the show right before all of this reintroduction of josh bs? 

When did Anna choose to quit the show? Was this in one of the recent promotional videos? Apparently Canadians can't watch those anymore so I haven't see them.

  • Upvote 6
Link to post
Share on other sites
MadeItOut
10 minutes ago, CorruptionInc. said:

I'm assuming the family offer to help because they don't want any risk Anna might break away. They may think they're helping, but I do believe there would be a big dose of "we have to make sure she doesn't say anything that damages the brand".

Yup - and it's one of THE most effective means of control too. It's a sad irony that the one time CP/quiverful types seem to truly understand mother-child bonding is when they're using the child/ren to control the mother.

Just now, singsingsing said:

When did Anna choose to quit the show? Was this in one of the recent promotional videos? Apparently Canadians can't watch those anymore so I haven't see them.

There were a handful of 'articles' around it a week or so ago. Wouldn't normally give it any credence, except for one had an 'explanation' from JB that Anna supposedly blames TLC for all that ails them and would rather focus on her children than appear again. That triggered my uh-oh response pretty heftily in light of recent goings on. - I would love to be wrong, but my gut feeling is to be extremely concerned for Anna just now.

  • Upvote 5
  • Downvote 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
singsingsing
49 minutes ago, MadeItOut said:

There were a handful of 'articles' around it a week or so ago. Wouldn't normally give it any credence, except for one had an 'explanation' from JB that Anna supposedly blames TLC for all that ails them and would rather focus on her children than appear again. That triggered my uh-oh response pretty heftily in light of recent goings on. - I would love to be wrong, but my gut feeling is to be extremely concerned for Anna just now.

What articles? Where were they published? Where did they get this explanation from Jim Bob? Was he quoted directly?

  • Upvote 5
Link to post
Share on other sites
MadeItOut

Bear with me. I'll try and dig them up. ...knowing me, it was likely in one of my "duggar" + family searches on Google. I tend to search that, then click over to the 'news' tab. Lemme see what I can refind.

  • Upvote 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
MadeItOut

Hmmmm that's odd. I can now only find two references to it and not even sound ones at that (& these two both reference comments similar to the one I saw attributed to JB, but put down to 'a family insider' again). The article referencing JB I can no longer find.

 

Here's the obligatory Inquisitr piece - to go with the customary salt (apologies if I'm not linking correctly - it's a new skill for me): http://www.inquisitr.com/4178786/anna-duggar-done-with-counting-on-blames-duggar-familys-tv-series-for-joshs-downfall/

 

...and the CP's post: http://www.christianpost.com/news/counting-on-duggar-family-news-anna-duggar-wants-a-life-away-from-the-limelight-182449/

 

I'd swear there were more than just those though - it usually takes me 4-6 corroborations for anything from the Inquisitr to stick on my radar.

Link to post
Share on other sites
singsingsing

Nothing from Inquisitr should ever stick to your radar unless they're just regurgitating info directly from a credible source. These tabloids all just quote each other. Their 'inside sources' are usually the writer's imagination.

  • Upvote 11
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Coconut Flan unpinned this topic
  • Coconut Flan locked this topic
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.



  • Recent Status Updates

    • Jasmar

      Jasmar

      My uncle just died from COVID. He wasn’t that much older than I am, so I kind of grew up with him. Just ten days ago my mom had been pleading with him to get vaccinated, but he wanted to wait to make sure the shots were really safe. I’m kind of devastated.
      · 1 reply
    • PumaLover

      PumaLover

      I just found out my little bonus kid is in a treatment center on a suicide watch tonight. He and I share a hobby and a couple weeks back he opened up to me that he's severely depressed and was wanting to hurt himself. I let his parents know and thankfully he had also been talking to them. I'm just heartbroken because him being in this center means that his parents had to call 911 and have him admitted and I know that was so hard for them to do. He's a young kid and has his whole life ahead of him but just wants to end it all and I don't know how to help him. 
      · 5 replies
    • HerNameIsBuffy

      HerNameIsBuffy

      Middle aged woman with mommy issues...but missing her today.
      She got so much wrong with me, but she had the best intentions and tried so hard. 
      She got so much right, too.  I forget that sometimes.  Sometimes I remember and dismiss it out of spite.  
      “They did the best they could with the tools they had.”  I forgot where I first heard that but I’ve carried it with me like a mantra since my parents passed.   They truly did.  Whatever else was missing, whatever I needed that they couldn’t give, the love was always there.  

      Always. 
      That’s something.
      My confidence in my own abilities.  Faith in my own power.  My own strength.  They gave me that, too.
      That’s also something.  
      They’re why I’m messed up, but they’re also why I’m okay.  
       
      Shit’s complicated.
      She died before I figured out how smart she really was.  Sad thing is I don’t think ever figured that out for herself.  
      Ignore me - just crying in my car waiting to pick up my son.  

       
       
      · 1 reply
    • CuttySark

      CuttySark

      The nice thing about posting about Jewish history is how quickly it flushes out the antisemites. 😘
      · 2 replies
    • choralcrusader8613

      choralcrusader8613

      I've been feeling a shitload of this for a while now about various types of Christians tbh.

      · 0 replies
    • HerNameIsBuffy

      HerNameIsBuffy

      It's Friday so yay!  But sweet Jesus I need it to be the end of the day already.  Crappy week and I'm so ready for it to be over.

      · 0 replies
    • nst

      nst

      I got vaccinated yesterday. In the am I got the email and I was  vaccinated 
      · 0 replies
    • PsyD2013

      PsyD2013

      Exhausted. I need a weekend off the grid.
       
      · 0 replies
    • 47of74

      47of74

      This will make the internetz explode. 
      · 1 reply
    • indianabones

      indianabones

      Making my fifth offer on a house tomorrow! I've gotten pretty attached to this one, too... fingers crossed!
      · 2 replies
  • Recent Blog Entries

×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.