Jinger and Jeremy - Social Media Silence

[lomo6]

7 hours ago, Fundie Bunny said:

Wait, do anyone in the US get a state pensión when they retire?

As @gustavasaid, we get social security in the US. You get full benefits at 66, but you can start drawing on social security as early as 62. Just did some googling - the average payout in 2015 was $1,328/month, and the max for someone retiring in 2016 is $2,639/month.

And we actually have universal healthcare (called Medicare) for people at 65+.

 

 

 

 

[xlurker]

Just to be clear, Medicare is not free, and does come with deductibles and co ins cost also.  It also doesn't cover everything.  While the cost may seem nominal to working folks, for a person living on a fixed income it can be quite high. And most medicare beneficiaries also carry additional insurance just to cover those things Medicare doesn't cover  (sometimes revered to "gap" insurance) which also add to living expenses.  It's true, a good amount of Medicare patients also qualify for medicaide, which in many cases is cost free, but both of these plans pay docs such a low percentage there are fewer and fewer that want to participate.  Overall, not a really good situation for many retired folks.

[anotherone]

On 2/3/2017 at 8:08 AM, LadyCrow1313 said:

Just went down the rabbit hole of their website. Not overly impressed. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I was impressed that he listed his favorite meal.....Not.  I mean, how is that relevant to his ministry?

[MoonFace]

On 2/2/2017 at 10:24 AM, choralcrusader8613 said:

Last thread here:

Jinger still doesn't have social media (Jeremy does though). Even so, posts on there are sporadic, and the last one was a Happy birthday to Joe Duggar. The last three pages of the previous thread gave us all a lot of helpful insight on hair care .

Maybe something newsworthy will happen during the course of this thread!

Maybe they can't get out of bed long enough to post?   

Time to make the babies!

[anotherone]

22 hours ago, Snarkle Motion said:

I get the sense the duggars pick and choose where to be frugal. He did sign up for an Ashley Madison subscription so it's not like he was super serious about every penny. I mean even a frugal philanderer should be able to utilize free porn and Craigslist without a subscription service?

When you said the words Duggars and frugal, the first phrase that came into mind was "buy used and save the difference."  I don't want to imagine how that applied to his porn habit...    

 

[Kittikatz]

19 minutes ago, anotherone said:

I was impressed that he listed his favorite meal.....Not.  I mean, how is that relevant to his ministry?

How else are his parishioners going to know what to feed him when he shows up for dinner at their houses? 

[AlternativeVoice]

4 hours ago, freejoy said:

I think JimBun dreams of overtaking Tontitown with all his children and grandchildren!

They'll be having their own gardens, cattle, industry.... A little bit how the Amish are.

Ohhhhhhh you just said a mouthful there sista!!!! How right you are. 

[socalrules]

I don't think Jim Bob has worth between $10-$20 million. I can see $5-6 million but not much more. Jon & Kate had way higher ratings and they weren't making millions  a year. I believe J & K were making around $25k an episode at their peak so I doubt 19kids made more than that. 

Jim Bob owns a lot of properties but they are cheap properties. They have been buying properties that were what $30k to $50k?  Even if has free labor for upkeep, the materials are still a cost  he still has to pay the property taxes and insurance for each one. If you fix them up and flip them they aren't that type of properties that are going to suddenly sell for $300k. He is lucky to live in  state where property is cheap. Plus, investment property is always a risk, there is no guarantee you will be able to sell it or rent it. Even if you buy the property outright, fix it up and rent it, you don't make a profit for years until you have made back that initial investment. 

 Jim and Michelle Will be just fine without the show as long as they are not responsible for financially supporting every adult child, their spouses and the grandchildren. Since I believe they only have catastrophic insurance, every medical expense is out of pocket, which adds up. One of those kids breaks a bone and that's thousands out of pocket. 

They have not slowed down on their spending. They are still going to Big Sandy, mission trips and other fundy events that are not being paid by TLC. The maintenance and gas for the plane isn't cheap. I also don't believe that the towing business or used cars they sell on that sad piece of land makes much at all. I think those businesses are nothing more than ways to keep the boys busy.  

[HomeschooledHeartThrob]

I have to point this out: Jimbob is Brilliant with money. My father is NOT a fundie (Raised Methodist) but he found the same book Jimbob advertises (cannot remember the name..."Rich Dad/Poor Dad" maybe?) and my father went to several church seminars about money when I was younger. He started very very poor but was able to become a very savvy businessman with the same knowledge Jimbob has. He was debt free 20 years ago with a lot of land, and only had a few kids vs Jimbob's army. I am struggling to be exactly like my self sufficient debt free father. 

Derek and Ben aren't working because they don't NEED to. They make more from the show than they ever would working!!! A MILLION dollars an episode?!?! Let's be serious now. 

[feministxtian]

3 hours ago, xlurker said:

Just to be clear, Medicare is not free, and does come with deductibles and co ins cost also.  It also doesn't cover everything.  While the cost may seem nominal to working folks, for a person living on a fixed income it can be quite high. And most medicare beneficiaries also carry additional insurance just to cover those things Medicare doesn't cover  (sometimes revered to "gap" insurance) which also add to living expenses.  It's true, a good amount of Medicare patients also qualify for medicaide, which in many cases is cost free, but both of these plans pay docs such a low percentage there are fewer and fewer that want to participate.  Overall, not a really good situation for many retired folks.

Medicare is a joke. My husband pays the federal gov't 121 dollars a month for it and we can't afford to use it. There is a 700 dollar deductible and they only pay 80% of the costs. FORTUNATELY my husband is also a veteran and can use the VA system. Since he has medicare there's some sort of weird-ass cost sharing thing between medicare and the VA...

I currently have medicaid...THAT is the shit! No deductibles, no co-pays, no co-insurance. i'd like to see that made universal...

[louisa05]

6 minutes ago, feministxtian said:

Medicare is a joke. My husband pays the federal gov't 121 dollars a month for it and we can't afford to use it. There is a 700 dollar deductible and they only pay 80% of the costs. FORTUNATELY my husband is also a veteran and can use the VA system. Since he has medicare there's some sort of weird-ass cost sharing thing between medicare and the VA...

I currently have medicaid...THAT is the shit! No deductibles, no co-pays, no co-insurance. i'd like to see that made universal...

Still better than private/employer based insurance. We pay $435 a month to cover two people. Our deductible is $1200 a year EACH. When I had an endoscopy two years ago, we paid for the entire thing out of pocket because it was considered diagnostic rather than preventative (preventative would be covered) and the insurance company didn't think I needed it for diagnosis. The medication my doctor prescribed based on the endoscopy results was not covered in our plan and we could not pay for it out of pocket (It would have been about $350 a month) so I had to take a lower dosage by combining two OTC medications which we still had to pay for out of pocket. 

When I left my last full time job in 2010, the premium for the coming school year was $1115 a month for employees needing coverage for spouse and/or children as well as themselves. The deductible on that plan was $1500 per person. A family of four would be on the hook for $6000 in deductibles per year. 

 

[calimojo]

JB is savvy with money, no doubt, and he may be cheap in that he forces his kids to wear used shoes ( gross) and clothing from resale shops or thrift stores, but in other ways he spends money pretty freely.  Buying that house where Jill and Derick are right now,  was probably not cheap.  And he isn't getting rent from it and hasn't been for awhile since they have been using it as a guest house. He has the planes which are expensive to keep up and he has several children old enough to drive and they seem to always have tons of cars and SUVs on the property.  They like to travel a fair amount and we know they don't eat in a frugal way.  They order out, use prepared foods, disposable plates and cutlery, etc.  So some aspects are frugal and others are rather mind-blowing to me in the amount of waste and expense. 

 

Even if JB has 10 million all put together,  that depends on how liquid he can make that money.  He might own a lot of properties, but would he be able to sell them if he needed the cash. 

I think right JB is definitely wealthy by most people's standards.  And he has money coming in from a variety of sources; the show, real estate, credit card processing, Cell Towers, appearances, their little books and dvd's that they always push on their FB and website, etc.  No one is going hungry in that family for a long time.  But the big question is just how protected are they from catastrophic expenses, such as if someone in the family were to have a serious catastrophic illness that dragged on for years,  And,  how sustainable is it for him to support the family as it continues to grow.  Even if the kidults stop at 5 kids each,  and if we include the nephew they are raising,  that is over 100 kids, plus 40 adults.    10 million, even 20 million isn't going to last long with that many.  Somewhere along the line, some of these kidults and spouses need to earn money.  Even just minimum wage if it qualifies them for insurance would be a help and they have plenty people around to help with childcare. 

 

Even if JB were to give each kid a modest home, worth maybe $100,000, that is almost 2 million right there.  And that house that Jill lived in right after marriage and the one they are in now, were probably worth closer to 250,000 or more. 

 

The show might last a few more seasons, but eventually even the most hardcore fans are going to tire of just weddings and babies. 

 

[eveandadam]

I thought I read somewhere that at the hight of 19 kids and counting they were making 75k per episode?

[Coconut Flan]

A blogger got a bee in her bonnet years ago and proclaimed the Gosselins made $75K per episode without any foundation.  The rumor took hold and even some semi-reputable online sites quoted it as fact.  Then it got transferred to the Duggars.  In reality TLC seldom pays more than $25K per episode. 

[marmalade]

On 2/3/2017 at 7:35 PM, Carm_88 said:

Pretty sure he was in Nepal for all of their courtship. I know he came home during the engagement, I think he may have gotten a job with Walmart just after the engagement or just before they got married. It didn't last long. 

No, he came back from Nepal in January, started at WalMart in Februray, courtship began at the end of March, so he'd been at Wally World for about 4 months before the June wedding. 

[Bad Wolf]

I thought he asked to court when Jill and JB went to Nepal. Didn't he give her a necklace? I don't remember.

[BullyJBG]

5 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

I thought he asked to court when Jill and JB went to Nepal. Didn't he give her a necklace? I don't remember.

Yes that's what I thought too. They had 2 months of a long-distance courtship, then he came back, and got engaged 2 months later.

[Chickenbutt]

I wonder about JB having any control over his dad's estate. Did Gramma Duggar get the whole thing or was it split between Gramma, Deanna, and JB? Does JB control his mom's money since her headship is dead? Was Grampa Duggar's money in a trust and JB is the trustee? Did Grampa Duggar have any money? So many questions, so  few answers.

[Carm_88]

38 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

I thought he asked to court when Jill and JB went to Nepal. Didn't he give her a necklace? I don't remember.

I thought for sure they had a long distance courtship and then JB grilled him before the engagement. He said he was at Walmart then. But he asked her to court in Nepal. That's why they want there to film Derick asking her to court. 

[mango_fandango]

A million dollars an episode? The ONLY instance I've heard of that happening was with Friends, and even then that was only for the last two seasons. A show about religious nutters which only pulls in a small audience (compared to a hit sitcom like Friends) probably wouldn't earn the family anywhere near that sort of money.

[FleeJanaFree]

Wait what article did Michelle write basically blaming Anna?

[season of life]

52 minutes ago, FleeJanaFree said:

Wait what article did Michelle write basically blaming Anna?

Technically she didn't but I recall her re-posting an article about being available for your husband sexually around the Ashley Madison scandal. The implication was that Michelle thought Anna should've been with him more in terms of sex.

[marmalade]

2 hours ago, Carm_88 said:

I thought for sure they had a long distance courtship and then JB grilled him before the engagement. He said he was at Walmart then. But he asked her to court in Nepal. That's why they want there to film Derick asking her to court. 

Yes, he asked to court in Nepal in 11/13.  Derick returned to the states 1/14. They were engaged 3/14 in Arkansas. 

47 minutes ago, season of life said:

Technically she didn't but I recall her re-posting an article about being available for your husband sexually around the Ashley Madison scandal. The implication was that Michelle thought Anna should've been with him more in terms of sex.

Right. She said that ANY woman could make your husband a sandwich, but only a WIFE could take cae of those "other" needs. It was pretty offensive on the heels of Joshley Madison. 

[grandmadugger]

19 hours ago, eveandadam said:

And Jill and Jessa probably make enough money of Instagram and Twitter with almost 2 mio followers each. It's probably enough to live of because they don't pay (a lot of) rent.

IF they are making anything it isn't enough to live on. I have yet to see either one disclose that they are being paid, which is required by law, and I haven't seen them talked about big companies who would be able to spend that kind of money. Instagraming about the local coffee shop isn't the same as working with Starbucks on a campaign. 

[shiverful]

Does anyone know if Jinger has been home or with family since the wedding? I can't remember seeing any pictures or postings about it on social media. 

It must be so weird going from living at home with your parents in rural Arkansas and sharing a room with many younger siblings to living with a man in a different state.