Girl Defined

[smittykins]

16 hours ago, luv2laugh said:

Do fundies really believe anal is a sin??? One told me “the marriage bed is undefined” and that anal was ok because of it.

I imagine some would play the “But the GHEYS” card and others “It doesn’t make baybeeez.”

[JermajestyDuggar]

8 hours ago, smittykins said:

I imagine some would play the “But the GHEYS” card and others “It doesn’t make baybeeez.”

We know the activist mommy REALLY hates the buttsecks. 

[Giraffe]

What gets me is if you’re not into something, then it’s not right for you and you shouldn’t do it. For YOU” being the important phrase they choose to ignore. No, I am not into [fill in what you say no to in a relationship], but there are plenty of people who love it and as long as those involved are consenting adults, WHY DO YOU CARE???

[Hane]

On 9/5/2019 at 4:45 PM, JermajestyDuggar said:

We know the activist mommy REALLY hates the buttsecks. 

Back when I was a practicing Catholic, a deacon at a nearby parish used to submit letters to the editor of the local paper going on and on against teh gheyz, informing everyone in detail of exactly what teh gheyz do during their sexytimes. It really seemed to bother him personally, and he seemed to have a surprising level of knowledge of it all.

[JermajestyDuggar]

1 minute ago, Hane said:

Back when I was a practicing Catholic, a deacon at a nearby parish used to submit letters to the editor of the local paper going on and on against teh gheyz, informing everyone in detail of exactly what teh gheyz do during their sexytimes. It really seemed to bother him personally, and he seemed to have a surprising level of knowledge of it all.

It’s weird how they focus so much on buttsecks but very little on mouthsecks. Both are types of sex that will not bring about new little blessings. So you would think fundies would be just as against oral as they are against anal. But nope. Likely because fundie men really like their BJs.

[smittykins]

Don’t forget handsecks!

[DarkAnts]

13 minutes ago, smittykins said:

Don’t forget handsecks!

[Beermeet]

I lurk here and enjoy your snark!  I keep trying to get into GD, as in watch their videos and, I can't.  These two are amazingly annoying.  Even to snark on, they don't hold my attention.  My 12 yr old girl child is more mature!  One of them is 30?!  Wow. I really want to get into it and snark with you, it's so hard though!  I will keep trying. ?

[Giraffe]

@Beermeet, there are a number of youtubers who do critique videos of them. That’s how I tolerate them. If I go on their videos I either pause or mute it and then enjoy the comments instead. They’re 20 years too late and 10+ years too old for their valley girl personas and I find them  grating to no end. 

[Beermeet]

16 minutes ago, Giraffe said:

@Beermeet, there are a number of youtubers who do critique videos of them. That’s how I tolerate them. If I go on their videos I either pause or mute it and then enjoy the comments instead. They’re 20 years too late and 10+ years too old for their valley girl personas and I find them  grating to no end. 

That is exactly what I'm doing right now!  Hilarious and much more palatable.  Like, I need a buddy or 2 to help me watch this mess. Yes, it's the valley girl persona that is extremely annoying.  Couple that with their bizarre views on anything they talk about ( which, seems to be limited) and I need to start day drinking. ?

[JermajestyDuggar]

Mr Atheist also critiques “Paul and Morgan.” They are a young married couple basically saying the same kind of stuff as GD. But I find them to be just as annoying as GD. I can’t watch Mr Atheist videos on them even though he only shows short clips. They are just that bad. I feel like they are nails on a chalk board. 

[Giraffe]

5 minutes ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

Mr Atheist also critiques “Paul and Morgan.” They are a young married couple basically saying the same kind of stuff as GD. But I find them to be just as annoying as GD. I can’t watch Mr Atheist videos on them even though he only shows short clips. They are just that bad. I feel like they are nails on a chalk board. 

I could sit through GD. I find them endlessly irritating, immature, and a waste of my time, but I could get through their videos if I were highly motivated. Paul & Morgan are so, so much worse. Morgan has the maturity of an immature 12 year old. I can barely watch Mr Atheist’s videos on them. I’m not sure I’ve ever watched one of his (on p&m) in one sitting. 

[Hane]

Morgan always sounds and acts stoned off her @$$.

[JermajestyDuggar]

1 hour ago, Hane said:

Morgan always sounds and acts stoned off her @$$.

I hate people who are 100% sober but talk like they are high all the time. And you’re right, Morgan does that. And Paul talks like he thinks he’s guest hosting The Price is Right. 

Edited September 8, 2019 by JermajestyDuggar

[Beermeet]

2 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

Mr Atheist also critiques “Paul and Morgan.” They are a young married couple basically saying the same kind of stuff as GD. But I find them to be just as annoying as GD. I can’t watch Mr Atheist videos on them even though he only shows short clips. They are just that bad. I feel like they are nails on a chalk board. 

Um....thanks? ??? I just half watched 2 videos.  One on purity culture ( that they are not into but totally are) and tattoos.  Mrs. Tattoo is feeling badass in this one. She has the perfect godly tattoos,of course.  Is she stoned?  Are they for reals??  I cannot keep going. I want to so I can snark . But, holy hell they are annoying AF.  I even tried Mr. Atheist.   Nope. Who do these people ( GD and M&P) think they are???!!!  Go away!  ?

Edited September 8, 2019 by Beermeet
Emojis

[Sonic the Whoredgehog]

@Beermeet, if you can't stomach the videos, their blog is also full of wonderfully snarkable bullshit.

As for Morgan, it's honestly kind of depressing. She has at least one type of mental disorder and her husband convinced her to stop taking meds. There's a lot of speculation on Reddit that I'm not super comfortable with, but I do think that she needs to be treated and isn't. She posts a lot of rants on Instagram that sound rather unhinged. There's also been speculation that Paul is abusive but frankly I think he's just a giant douchenozzle. Did you watch their collab with Girl Defined? One of their shticks is that Morgan wasn't a virgin when she married Paul and she talks about it in that video and the other three just plaster on the most disgusting condescending pity looks. I couldn't watch another of either channel's videos after that because I wanted to punch them through my screen. 

[Beermeet]

17 minutes ago, Sonic the Whoredgehog said:

@Beermeet, if you can't stomach the videos, their blog is also full of wonderfully snarkable bullshit.

As for Morgan, it's honestly kind of depressing. She has at least one type of mental disorder and her husband convinced her to stop taking meds. There's a lot of speculation on Reddit that I'm not super comfortable with, but I do think that she needs to be treated and isn't. She posts a lot of rants on Instagram that sound rather unhinged. There's also been speculation that Paul is abusive but frankly I think he's just a giant douchenozzle. Did you watch their collab with Girl Defined? One of their shticks is that Morgan wasn't a virgin when she married Paul and she talks about it in that video and the other three just plaster on the most disgusting condescending pity looks. I couldn't watch another of either channel's videos after that because I wanted to punch them through my screen. 

That's awful. Her husband took part in that video???  Gross.  That right there is mental abuse.  My husband would never side with others to shame me in any way.  He does seem like a giant douchenozzle. She plays off him and to him. I haven't seen much, been watching a bit more as I cook dinner.  Like, a jerk. The boyfriend you definitely don't marry, the bf you learn what you don't want in a life partner.  

I found this on FB and I love it.  Seems appropriate to share rn.  I fail at spoiler boxes.  It's long and deserving of a box:

If you want to be a bad ass sexually empowered woman, embrace your inner hag.
Thats right. 
The crone. The ancient old woman. The witch. The hag.
The crone archetype is an aspect of the feminine not associated with sexuality. 
Women groom themselves to be girls. The younger the better. 
Paint those lips red and blush those cheeks like you are wet and ripe for impregnation. 
Make them believe you are in perpetual ovulation. 
Make them hard. Make them desire you.
Get that face lift. Suck in that belly. Bat those lashes.
Guess what.
The crone doesn't give a fuck.
And that is her power. 
She doesn't care about looking pretty. 
She embraces her spider lines and swinging, sagging flesh. 
After all, this is what life does to the body of a woman.
Does that make you uncomfortable? Would you rather not see? 
They have tried to hide her but she will not go away. 
They have tried to silence her.
Because she knows what they do not want you to know. 
Her secret threatens to corrupt you.
She can make you wild. 
She can reveal to you your power.
Your volcanic senseless holy power.
They dont want this. 
No.
They want you to be nice and pretty and digestible. 
Easy to manipulate.
Groomed to be a sex toy. 
Or a sensual Goddess, if you're spiritual.
Different drag. Same game.
They want to put you in their doll house.
Be a good wife. Be a good girl. 
Be sexy. 
Be pretty for us. Be nice.
She could ruin the whole game.
Once she opens her mouth, the jig is up. 
So what do they do? 
They tell you she is crazy. She has lost her mind. Poor old thing.
Or maybe she is evil. Dangerous. 
Yes. She is dangerous. 
Dangerous because she has broken out of that jail cell you call your home. 
You dont notice these are bars you have been primping and polishing.
How would you have sex if you didn't give a fuck about how pretty you look? 
Or how flat your stomach is?
The crone is not an object of desire.
And because of this she is free.
She is free to claim her own desire. To be the subject of desire. 
In a world that praises women for being objects of desire. 
Where the more lust you can seduce the more value you possess, the crone is laughing with that cackle that only women of power have. 
Her sex belongs to herself. 
She does not need any husband or man. 
She does not possess the enchanting beauty of the maiden or the fertile reproductive juices of the mother.
They would like to throw her away for this. 
What good is a woman without sex we can use?
She no longer bleeds. She no longer bears children. 
Her sex no longer waxes and wanes with the moon, gaining and draining energy with each passing tide. 
No.
She is full.
The portal to her blood has been sealed. 
She is drinking in the nectar. 
She is bathing in its luminous darkness. 
She is sitting inside of an alchemical bomb. 
A nuclear power source.
Her sex is a diamond pressed and polished by years of cultivation.
Her sex is what makes the wind move. 
Her sex is the core of her wisdom. 
She has passed through all the phases of initiation as a woman. 
She used to be wrapped in the same cloak of lies as you are in right now. 
That heavy web of social conditions all feminine creatures are baptized into. 
Be nice. Smile. Look pretty. Be desired. 
She has unraveled herself from these webs. 
She has liberated her sex from all their stories. 
She has made it to the other side. 
She is free.
And a free woman is a very dangerous woman. 
What good is a woman who isnt desired by men?
Without the ability to be a mother or a sex object, what is left of a woman and her sex?
I’ll tell you what. 
Pure power that doesn't give a fuck. 
Crazy wisdom that knows how to make love to the moment.
To be penetrated by existence. 
Sex that ripples through every cell of your body.
Sex that pulses with every tiny whisper of life knowing life. 
If you want to find the seat of your sexual power.
Your real deep sovereign sexual nature. 
Find the crone that lives in you. 
Let her unravel your false beliefs.
All the lies that they told you.
They told you Men know about sex.
Just let them lead, they said, they’ll know what to do.
They tried to turn you into pornography.
Your body a vessel for his lust.
They tried to make you appealing to look at.
They shoved strange sounds down your throat,
And called it female orgasm. 
They told you how to be sexy so you could have good sex.
As though the image was the point.
Put on a good show. 
Be loud but not too loud.
Don’t be a prude.
Don’t be a slut. 
They wrapped you in so much pretty packaging you forgot to feel inside. 
They gave you the right shade of lipstick for the perfect blowjob.
They gave you straight lines when your true language is a circle. 
The crone will draw her dagger and slay all that noise. 
She will cut through the tight corset that has been suffocating you.
She will make you wild.
And thats how your sex is meant to be.
Wild. Ugly. Innocent. Real. 
Erupting from the deep.
Love you can taste from the inside out.
It is inside you, woman.
It has always been inside you.
This is no cosmo magazine sexuality.
You must forget everything they told you.
Turn inside.
The real initiation begins here. 
Welcome to the temple of your sex.
The crone is here, waiting for you to begin.

~ Maya Luna

[Sonic the Whoredgehog]

12 minutes ago, Beermeet said:

She is free to claim her own desire. To be the subject of desire. 
In a world that praises women for being objects of desire. 

Holy shit, I love this whole thing. And weirdly enough, I needed something like this right now. Sorry if this is TMI, but I got married a month ago today, waited for marriage for the "real deal", and on top of that transition, my birth control (Sorry, Aunt Lori) has been acting up in some rather unsexy ways which has really messed with my head. Fortunately I didn't internalize too much purity culture, but many "worldly" ideas about women and sexuality honestly aren't much better. This piece gave me a new perspective that I didn't know I needed and I honestly already feel better about myself, so thank you for posting that ?

[Beermeet]

20 minutes ago, Sonic the Whoredgehog said:

Holy shit, I love this whole thing. And weirdly enough, I needed something like this right now. Sorry if this is TMI, but I got married a month ago today, waited for marriage for the "real deal", and on top of that transition, my birth control (Sorry, Aunt Lori) has been acting up in some rather unsexy ways which has really messed with my head. Fortunately I didn't internalize too much purity culture, but many "worldly" ideas about women and sexuality honestly aren't much better. This piece gave me a new perspective that I didn't know I needed and I honestly already feel better about myself, so thank you for posting that ?

Holy shit is right, huh?!  So powerful.  So much raw truth. I'm sorry you are dealing with bc issues as a newlywed. Not cool. I wish you all the best and you find what works for YOU!  I agree, society, whether religious or not does a number on us women.  I'm 45 and have been married almost 18 years to a truly good man who loves me and I him. The closer I get to crone, the freer and happier I am!  I find it rather enjoyable to not be younger and "hotter".  Less pressure.  I get to be me, I have the confidence to be me.  Wishing you the best, you will figure it out.  ❤

Edited September 8, 2019 by Beermeet

[raspberrymint]

I can actually watch P&M more than GD.  GD talk too damn fast and anxiously.  

[Beermeet]

I watched Morgan's testimony. ( I just had to learn more! Lol) Her husband sucks.  What a control freak.  He thinks it's funny to listen in on her when she wanted to be alone. The first time at the beginning, ok fine. They are trying to be YouTube worthy.  But at the end?  Rude.  That's not love or funny.

Also, I bet he loved her brokenness on the first date.  He found the girl he could gaslight and hold her lost virginity over her head. I kinda feel bad for her.  I also saw the one where they fight on camera.  He's being a jerk again. Um, kids, marriage shouldn't be that hard. It's an adjustment but, damn. That's not a good sign.  

They are annoying but I agree, GD is worse, imo. 

[Sonic the Whoredgehog]

Oi. I almost want to buy this book to see if the rest of the writing is this bad. I genuinely cannot fathom why these snotty airheads think they're qualified to write a blog post, much less a book. Are they even capable of not sounding condescending? 

Spoiler

Oh, and what the hell is up with fundies and describing very young children as "good with babies" and good caretakers? What kind of family gives a 6(?) year old a caretaker role? Bethany is such a moron that I wouldn't be surprised if she let the cousin babysit once the spawn arrives. Who gives a damn if a girl is smart, strong, kind, creative, or ambitious, as long as she's "soooooooo good with babies", right? 

Spoiler

 

[unsafetydancer]

@Beermeet I live for that poem!

[Four is Enough]

I just came over here to say that I have been watching Mr. Athiest, M and P, and GD, not to mention God is Grey. TWO of those are completely insufferable.....

[AtTara]

On 9/7/2019 at 11:48 PM, Beermeet said:

If you want to be a bad ass sexually empowered woman, embrace your inner hag.

Thats right. 
The crone. The ancient old woman. The witch. The hag.
The crone archetype is an aspect of the feminine not associated with sexuality. 
Women groom themselves to be girls. The younger the better. 
Paint those lips red and blush those cheeks like you are wet and ripe for impregnation. 
Make them believe you are in perpetual ovulation. 
Make them hard. Make them desire you.
Get that face lift. Suck in that belly. Bat those lashes.
Guess what.
The crone doesn't give a fuck.
And that is her power. 
She doesn't care about looking pretty. 
She embraces her spider lines and swinging, sagging flesh. 
After all, this is what life does to the body of a woman.
Does that make you uncomfortable? Would you rather not see? 
They have tried to hide her but she will not go away. 
They have tried to silence her.
Because she knows what they do not want you to know. 
Her secret threatens to corrupt you.
She can make you wild. 
She can reveal to you your power.
Your volcanic senseless holy power.
They dont want this. 
No.
They want you to be nice and pretty and digestible. 
Easy to manipulate.
Groomed to be a sex toy. 
Or a sensual Goddess, if you're spiritual.
Different drag. Same game.
They want to put you in their doll house.
Be a good wife. Be a good girl. 
Be sexy. 
Be pretty for us. Be nice.
She could ruin the whole game.
Once she opens her mouth, the jig is up. 
So what do they do? 
They tell you she is crazy. She has lost her mind. Poor old thing.
Or maybe she is evil. Dangerous. 
Yes. She is dangerous. 
Dangerous because she has broken out of that jail cell you call your home. 
You dont notice these are bars you have been primping and polishing.
How would you have sex if you didn't give a fuck about how pretty you look? 
Or how flat your stomach is?
The crone is not an object of desire.
And because of this she is free.
She is free to claim her own desire. To be the subject of desire. 
In a world that praises women for being objects of desire. 
Where the more lust you can seduce the more value you possess, the crone is laughing with that cackle that only women of power have. 
Her sex belongs to herself. 
She does not need any husband or man. 
She does not possess the enchanting beauty of the maiden or the fertile reproductive juices of the mother.
They would like to throw her away for this. 
What good is a woman without sex we can use?
She no longer bleeds. She no longer bears children. 
Her sex no longer waxes and wanes with the moon, gaining and draining energy with each passing tide. 
No.
She is full.
The portal to her blood has been sealed. 
She is drinking in the nectar. 
She is bathing in its luminous darkness. 
She is sitting inside of an alchemical bomb. 
A nuclear power source.
Her sex is a diamond pressed and polished by years of cultivation.
Her sex is what makes the wind move. 
Her sex is the core of her wisdom. 
She has passed through all the phases of initiation as a woman. 
She used to be wrapped in the same cloak of lies as you are in right now. 
That heavy web of social conditions all feminine creatures are baptized into. 
Be nice. Smile. Look pretty. Be desired. 
She has unraveled herself from these webs. 
She has liberated her sex from all their stories. 
She has made it to the other side. 
She is free.
And a free woman is a very dangerous woman. 
What good is a woman who isnt desired by men?
Without the ability to be a mother or a sex object, what is left of a woman and her sex?
I’ll tell you what. 
Pure power that doesn't give a fuck. 
Crazy wisdom that knows how to make love to the moment.
To be penetrated by existence. 
Sex that ripples through every cell of your body.
Sex that pulses with every tiny whisper of life knowing life. 
If you want to find the seat of your sexual power.
Your real deep sovereign sexual nature. 
Find the crone that lives in you. 
Let her unravel your false beliefs.
All the lies that they told you.
They told you Men know about sex.
Just let them lead, they said, they’ll know what to do.
They tried to turn you into pornography.
Your body a vessel for his lust.
They tried to make you appealing to look at.
They shoved strange sounds down your throat,
And called it female orgasm. 
They told you how to be sexy so you could have good sex.
As though the image was the point.
Put on a good show. 
Be loud but not too loud.
Don’t be a prude.
Don’t be a slut. 
They wrapped you in so much pretty packaging you forgot to feel inside. 
They gave you the right shade of lipstick for the perfect blowjob.
They gave you straight lines when your true language is a circle. 
The crone will draw her dagger and slay all that noise. 
She will cut through the tight corset that has been suffocating you.
She will make you wild.
And thats how your sex is meant to be.
Wild. Ugly. Innocent. Real. 
Erupting from the deep.
Love you can taste from the inside out.
It is inside you, woman.
It has always been inside you.
This is no cosmo magazine sexuality.
You must forget everything they told you.
Turn inside.
The real initiation begins here. 
Welcome to the temple of your sex.
The crone is here, waiting for you to begin.

~ Maya Luna

I love this.  I've hit that stage, and it's glorious.

Re: Girl Defined, bless their hearts, they make my teeth grind.  They are the people for whom the saying "I can't even" was created.

I can't even watch their videos; I can only watch the reaction videos posted by others, because as I'm trying to listen to them I start getting shouty at my computer and it scares the dogs.

Edited September 18, 2019 by AtTara
To include the poem.