Tickling the Ivories - Jinger and Jeremy Vuolo

[FleeJanaFree]

I know a girl who got pregnant when she was a virgin. They were dryhumping  in their underwear and he came. Juices got up there and they got a baby. *shrug*

 

what a shitty thing to happen! Baby at 18 without even real sex.

[goldengrove]

5 hours ago, December said:

Not sure, but it wouldn't surprise me. It's happened every time I've gone or taken someone to an ER in the last ~5 years at least.

hmm...maybe it's my resting bitch face, they think nobody'd dare mess with me? (heh...if only, I've had it from day 1, and it's never done me much good )

a lot of people looked the other way in my youth, simply because my adopted father was a good sized fish in a very small pond...the school system particularly let me down...I like to think that they wouldn't legally be allowed to ignore what was going on today, but I'm not totally convinced.

[SilverBeach]

On 1/6/2017 at 6:13 PM, KelseyAnn said:

I don't mean to pry, but I have the same problem with heavy irregular bleeding and I was wondering what the side effects of meformin are?

Metformin is used to lower blood sugar in Type 2 diabetics. I take it every day, and never heard of it being prescribed for menstrual difficulties. But off-label use is a thing, hell Viagra was originally formulated to be a heart medicine.

[just_ordinary]

2 hours ago, marmalade said:

My gyno has asked me those type of questions for years. However, I didn't get checked for pregnancy when I had my appendix out in 2008 despite the fact my lady parts were still fully functional, not even peri-menopausal. Had I been pregnant and lost the fetus during the operation, that's a lawsuit waiting to happen. I mean, yeah, I was on the older end of my childbearing years, but women at that age have kids. Hell, my SIL did! 

When I went to the hospital because of pain out of hell (my Dic sent me with a "quite possible appendix" diagnosis) they made some blood work to check my inflammation values (it was out 2h later). I believe they tested a potential pregnancy and a lot of other stuff they want/need to know with it too. 

As for Christening/ Baptising Babys: where I live it is often done somewhere between four weeks and six month. But if those children want to be full members of their congregation they have to do the follow up ceremony later (confirmation). Only adults that get christened/baptised are full members straight away. I think it is more an idea of Gods protection for the child (and of course a reason for a  celebration). If my child is in danger I would be happy for every prayer from whatever religion. The idea of getting it christened against my will made me furious at first but then I thought: it will not change anything. There come no duties or responsibilities with it for the child. If you don't tell your child it might never know. I don't believe in hell or the afterlife but of course I could be wrong.

Maybe I should get our children dedicated/blessed in as many religions as possible. Just in case...... 

[VeganCupcake]

My opinion on Jinger and Jeremy: he seems like the most normal husband so far, but still a bit of an overly religious zealot. However, he seemed to think the "courtship" terminology was lame and poked fun at it, then later used the words "I asked Jinger to be my girlfriend." Something which has never been said on this show before. 

Also I've noticed his mother wearing quite low necklines (for Duggar standards) so there's another sign of normalcy. I could not BELIEVE how embarrassing Jim Bob acted during the Laredo visit, talking about "swapping spit" or whatever. Is he trying to get ratings, or just insane?? 

Jinger's wedding was SO much better than the others. (The contrast is STAGGERING between this wedding vs the very first Josh and Anna wedding). I'm sure Jeremy would never have agreed to that nutty Ciara person running things. Miss Cindy did a lovely job. I do think the Duggar boys in the suspenders looked too casual. 

One thing scares me a bit …TLC used to present the Duggars as an oddity, but now they are being shown in a very glamorous light. People need to realize their lifestyle is not realistic for normal people who aren't rich famous reality stars. They act like God blessed them with all of this bc they are just sooooo godly, when in fact their TV show saved them from disaster. MOST homeschooled people whose parents have isolated them and held them back from an education are struggling, not living large like the Duggars. 

[Snarkylark]

3 hours ago, FleeJanaFree said:

I know a girl who got pregnant when she was a virgin. They were dryhumping  in their underwear and he came. Juices got up there and they got a baby. *shrug*

 

what a shitty thing to happen! Baby at 18 without even real sex.

Omg, I knew a couple that said the same thing happened to them. Of course, I don't know for sure if that's true as I wasn't there. Scary!!

[Adrienne83]

On 1/6/2017 at 7:43 PM, SweetFellowshipper said:

When I had sex with only women, they'd ask "are you sexually active?" "Yes." "What do you use for birth control?" "I don't use any." "The pill?" "No." "Condoms?" "No." In horror, ".......Then how do you prevent pregnancy?" "Sex with women usually takes care of that." The relief on their faces!!

But what if you were trying to get pregnant, ya know?

[eveandadam]

On 7.1.2017 at 1:43 AM, SweetFellowshipper said:

When I had sex with only women, they'd ask "are you sexually active?" "Yes." "What do you use for birth control?" "I don't use any." "The pill?" "No." "Condoms?" "No." In horror, ".......Then how do you prevent pregnancy?" "Sex with women usually takes care of that." The relief on their faces!!

Haha, same here. When I went to my new gynocologist the same questions came and as a reaction she marked my chart with the word lesbian in big red letters, even though I'm not. It was just at a time when I only had contact with women.

[PainfullyAware]

Wow I've never been asked about my safety in relationships, here in Canada. It would be great if they did that.

I have been routinely tested for pregnancy even when I said it's unlikely. It doesn't bother me if they want to do it. 

Once a creepy Dr looked hopeful when I said I couldn't be pregnant and said "so are you a virgin?" I was happy to disappoint him. I've never heard a medical professional use that term, usually 'have you even been sexually active?'. From his accent I gathered English was not his first language and maybe he used the term inadvertently and it made me uncomfortable, so I inferred creepiness. But it's a loaded word and not appropriate for talking to a patient presenting with Pelvic/abdominal pain!

[elliha]

I find it interesting that you are allowed to get a vasectomy with the idea of reversal still on your mind. That is not allowed in my country, to be approved for sterilization you must be done with having kids (or be sure you don't want any) and you can only get the types of surgery that are the least likely to reverse on their own. It is only allowed for people who want to be permanently unable to have children. 

 

[Coconutwater]

6 hours ago, eveandadam said:

Haha, same here. When I went to my new gynocologist the same questions came and as a reaction she marked my chart with the word lesbian in big red letters, even though I'm not. It was just at a time when I only had contact with women.

Haha, when I moved and filled out the information for my new gynecologist, she was not comfortable with that and kept asking me about pregnancy and men, I kept pointing to the online chart I filled out and asked her if she had even read it. She totally ignored the fact that I am gay (I had questions about certain things) and it was like this huge elephant in the room. Whenever we would discuss sex or my cycle and why I get so sick, she would refer to men. It was like being with an uncomfortable family member that you can't get away from or talk about what you need to. I'm looking for a new one...

[kinphilly]

Look what just showed up in my sidebar (on a recipe blog) - Jinger was pretty on-point fashion wise, apparently.  

[VeganCupcake]

31 minutes ago, Coconutwater said:

Haha, when I moved and filled out the information for my new gynecologist, she was not comfortable with that and kept asking me about pregnancy and men, I kept pointing to the online chart I filled out and asked her if she had even read it. She totally ignored the fact that I am gay (I had questions about certain things) and it was like this huge elephant in the room. Whenever we would discuss sex or my cycle and why I get so sick, she would refer to men. It was like being with an uncomfortable family member that you can't get away from or talk about what you need to. I'm looking for a new one...

Hahaha my gynecologist is the opposite. When I admitted to hooking up she said "With GUYS?! Oh great…" lol 

[SweetFellowshipper]

14 hours ago, SilverBeach said:

Metformin is used to lower blood sugar in Type 2 diabetics. I take it every day, and never heard of it being prescribed for menstrual difficulties. But off-label use is a thing, hell Viagra was originally formulated to be a heart medicine.

I know it's used by women with PCOS to improve fertility and periods since their hormonal issues cause their infertility. My friend with PCOS was never fertile until Metformin. I think that is more recent though. 

10 hours ago, eveandadam said:

Haha, same here. When I went to my new gynocologist the same questions came and as a reaction she marked my chart with the word lesbian in big red letters, even though I'm not. It was just at a time when I only had contact with women.

Yeah, I know that some places ask "are you sexually active?" "Yes." "With men, women, or both?" 

I wish all places did that, otherwise it can get borderline offensive. It's a simple fix. 

[rainbowbabycakes]

On 1/5/2017 at 9:51 PM, amandaaries said:

Oh, humans are the most interesting creatures out there: http://adequateman.deadspin.com/what-did-we-get-stuck-in-our-rectums-last-year-1790335507

I've heard of this happening, anecdotally.  I've always assumed that there were unnoticed issues during the procedure, or that the human body's ability to heal and renew itself is at times underestimated by science.  I mean, not every vasectomy takes, so maybe not every tubal takes, and a tubal isn't a hysterectomy.  The equipment is still there, as with a vasectomy. 

FTR, I am not any kind of Degreed Medical Professional, just someone who loves reading and gossiping and learning and hearing stories in general. For every rule, there is an exception, no?

My sister is waiting to get a tubal (her daughter is 2 months old, and she was supposed to get it done right after she was born, but they kept having emergencies), anyway, she told me that they're going away from tying, burning, whatever it is they do now, to actually removing the tube completely. They also told her it reduces the risk of ovarian cancer too.

 

[vspielman]

11 hours ago, eveandadam said:

Haha, same here. When I went to my new gynocologist the same questions came and as a reaction she marked my chart with the word lesbian in big red letters, even though I'm not. It was just at a time when I only had contact with women.

Even as a straight woman, this offends me beyond belief.  What would she do this to you or to anyone?  Why would it matter if someone were gay or not?  (I'm just venting a little here.)

[calimojo]

15 hours ago, marmalade said:

My gyno has asked me those type of questions for years. However, I didn't get checked for pregnancy when I had my appendix out in 2008 despite the fact my lady parts were still fully functional, not even peri-menopausal. Had I been pregnant and lost the fetus during the operation, that's a lawsuit waiting to happen. I mean, yeah, I was on the older end of my childbearing years, but women at that age have kids. Hell, my SIL did! 

You probably were checked for pregnancy as that is pretty much protocol for testing anyone of childbearing years.  In fact, if a woman who is unconscious or unable to respond to questions shows up needing emergency surgery or treatment,  they are probably going to do a Preg test unless that woman is over 55.  We did one on a woman who had a hysterectomy but it wasn't known at the time because she came in unconscious and had no medical history available. It is a very easy and cheap test to run on either blood or urine and takes just a few minutes to get the result.   

They no doubt drew blood and possibly got a urine specimen from you and ran the test.  They do a battery of blood tests, etc prior to surgery and a serum HCG is just an add on to that.  But, given that a ruptured appendix can actually be a life threatening situation,  lawsuit waiting to happen is not all that likely.  And, many pregnant women end up having surgery during pregnancy for appendicitis or gall bladder disease and do fine, though knowing it ahead of time is helpful.  And, even if you had a + preg test before going to surgery,  that wouldn't have changed your need for surgery.  You still would have had to have the surgery.  They don't cut through the uterus to get to the abdomen.  And the concern for exposure to anesthesia is probably fairly minimal though if you had been pregnant they might have opted for different anesthesia meds. 

 

[marmalade]

I was conscious and my appendix wasn't ruptured. Hell, my PCP didn't even believe me when I told him I thought I had appendicitis, because I didn't present with a fever. I went across the street to the ER, and the MRI confirmed my condition. I don't remember giving a urine sample or having blood drawn, although the latter could have happened, and I just forgot about it in my state of pain.

[calimojo]

Pretty sure they drew blood.  They would want to check our white blood cell count for signs of infection, and also your hemoglobin and Hematocrit to be sure you weren't anemic which would put you at risk if you had additional bleeding from surgery.  They probably also got a blood chemistry as well, as that tells them a lot of info such as your liver function, your electrolytes, etc.  Usually when getting ready for emergency surgery you get sort of swarmed in the ED by lots of people, you honestly might not remember getting blood drawn. Also,  they usually draw your blood when they start your IV so you might not have even realized they were pulling off the blood before hooking up your IV.  This way you only get 1 stick, instead of two.  

And if they put in a catheter,  sometimes they get urine to send from the catheter.  Most surgeons will still want a catheter in place to be sure the bladder doesn't fill up with urine during the surgery which can literally get in the way in the tight space of the upper pelvis/lower abdomen during the surgery. 

Plus, anesthesia can mess with your memories as does pain. 

[SilverBeach]

1 hour ago, SweetFellowshipper said:

I know it's used by women with PCOS to improve fertility and periods since their hormonal issues cause their infertility. My friend with PCOS was never fertile until Metformin. I think that is more recent though. 

Yeah, I know that some places ask "are you sexually active?" "Yes." "With men, women, or both?" 

I wish all places did that, otherwise it can get borderline offensive. It's a simple fix. 

PCOS is associated with insulin resistance, which is associated with diabetes.

I was disagnosed with PCOS (then called Stein-Levinthal syndrome) in 1974.

PCOS is also associated with menstrual irregularities or amennorhea, which I presented with. I was given progesterone for that, never metformin.

Interestingly, I was told I would likely need intervention to get pregnant, but...nope. I lost 90 pounds and had no issues and was very surprised by my blessing. In 1991, I was diagnosed as diabetic.

PCOS being an endocrine disorder can affect multiple systems.  I never got the excess hair though. Thankfully, knowledge of PCOS has increased quite a bit over the decades, and early administration of metformin may prevent the onset of diabetes, which wasn't known back then.

Each individual human body is fascinating.

[Analytica49]

18 hours ago, FleeJanaFree said:

I know a girl who got pregnant when she was a virgin. They were dryhumping  in their underwear and he came. Juices got up there and they got a baby. *shrug*

 

what a shitty thing to happen! Baby at 18 without even real sex.

OMG. I have to say, this was always a huge fear of mine when I was an adolescent.

Back then, I did not know for sure that it could really happen. I kind of suspected it was possible, though, and that's what kept me afraid.

Way back when I was a teen, an "out of wedlock pregnancy" was just about the worst thing that could happen to a young girl. It basically meant either a shotgun wedding OR you had to disappear, give birth far from home, and say goodbye to the baby forever.

It's not at all like that now (at least where I live), and I am so glad that that part of our culture, at least, has changed.

[SweetFellowshipper]

3 hours ago, SilverBeach said:

PCOS is associated with insulin resistance, which is associated with diabetes.

I was disagnosed with PCOS (then called Stein-Levinthal syndrome) in 1974.

PCOS is also associated with menstrual irregularities or amennorhea, which I presented with. I was given progesterone for that, never metformin.

Interestingly, I was told I would likely need intervention to get pregnant, but...nope. I lost 90 pounds and had no issues and was very surprised by my blessing. In 1991, I was diagnosed as diabetic.

PCOS being an endocrine disorder can affect multiple systems.  I never got the excess hair though. Thankfully, knowledge of PCOS has increased quite a bit over the decades, and early administration of metformin may prevent the onset of diabetes, which wasn't known back then.

Each individual human body is fascinating.

It was suspected that I had PCOS due to my ovarian cysts, but ovarian cysts aren't even required for the diagnosis anymore, despite the name, lol. And some people have PCOS with no cysts. The people I've known who actually had it were overweight, had facial hair, insulin resistance, elevated testosterone, etc. 

I'm just an unfortunate cyst- haver for no apparent reason. Apparently they aren't dangerous. Thought I was dying when it burst though. 

[Kayleigh83]

On 1/7/2017 at 5:59 AM, Thorns said:

Quite a few! 

I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few lie about not being a virgin when in fact they are, but the opposite? I'd guess that's far less common except in certain social circles.

[purjolok84]

Haha, when I moved and filled out the information for my new gynecologist, she was not comfortable with that and kept asking me about pregnancy and men, I kept pointing to the online chart I filled out and asked her if she had even read it. She totally ignored the fact that I am gay (I had questions about certain things) and it was like this huge elephant in the room. Whenever we would discuss sex or my cycle and why I get so sick, she would refer to men. It was like being with an uncomfortable family member that you can't get away from or talk about what you need to. I'm looking for a new one...

I would definitely be switching! One of the doctors in my clinic refers to my partner as 'he/him', despite me telling her many times that I'm gay and that I've been with the same woman for 10 years. Granted, she's not my regular doctor and it's possible she could be mistaken, but still ...

[Scrabblemaster]

I really love these thread shifts. I was thinking with the older and married duggars with hopefully less limited internet access, they might be googling their own names and ending right here. Will they learn quite a bit? Will they start having respect for others? Or will they just be shocked about normal life and return to their prayer closet? At least they could have some access to the world, sheltered as they are i am afraid they will choose not to use it.