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What the what? Electricity is a mystery? Should have seen my electrical engineers face when I read that. The book looks dated, but not that old, lol. 

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3 hours ago, CyborgKin said:

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I want to hear more about these frequent court cases in which the claim is made that math can't be taught from a distinctively Biblical perspective.

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15 hours ago, Audrey2 said:

If you or someone you love is suffering from prostate cancer or has suffered, I'm sending hugs. I lost my Dad two years ago to that terrible disease.

 

For everyone who is reading this, please encourage the men in your lives to get their man checks and to talk to family members about their medical history. We thought my grandfather had it, but it also turned out that my great grandfather had it too. I don't want others to go through what my family went through.

My mother had four uncles have prostate cancer (they were brothers--two died, two were successfully treated and died of other causes) and seven of her cousins on that side of the family have had it. We assume that there is a genetic tendency for it. Her brother, who is nearly 81, has not had it, so there is that. I worry about my brother who basically neglects all medical care. My mom has told him over and over to make sure he is regularly checked and that his doctor knows about the family history, but he blows her off. 

Of course, our dad died of esophageal cancer and my brother has reflux and has refused to have an endoscopy, too. I have chronic gastritis and my GE doc ordered an endoscopy on learning of my dad's cancer diagnosis. I will have one every three years. 

I'm sorry for the loss of your father. We lost my dad 16 months ago. Losing a parent is hard, and losing one to cancer is absolutely brutal. 

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@IreneIssh If you want any Mormon Sunday school/Men's or Women's  reading guides I will happily send you some. I swear, every time I take a chunk to the thrift store I find another damn box full. Message me and I will send them your way.

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This was on AlterNet via Salon: 5 completely insane things Christian fundamentalists are teaching their kids   This stuff is in schoolbooks

It's a "Can You Believe this Shit?" type article, based on ACE curriculum.

1. The Loch Ness Monster Disproves Evolution

2. Solar Fusion Is a Myth

3. Japanese Whaling Boat Found a Dinosaur

4. Evolution Has Been Discredited

5. Humans Footprints Found Beside Dino Tracks

There's a substantial entry for each of these headings, but #5 is my favorite, since I've driven past the Creation Evidence Museum of Texas on the Paluxy River near Glen Rose, TX.  It was deserted.  A little way down the road was a dinosaur theme park; the parking lot was packed.

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There is a claim that fossilized human footprints have been found alongside dinosaur tracks in the bed of the Paluxy River, Texas. Well, I’ll just let ACE pick up the story.

“Biblical and scientific evidence seems to indicate that men and dinosaurs lived at the same time…. Fossilized tracks in the bed of the Paluxy River near Glen Rose, Texas, also give evidence that men and dinosaurs existed simultaneously. Fossilized human footprints and three-toed dinosaur tracks occur in the same rock stratum…. That dinosaurs existed with humans is an important discovery disproving the evolutionists’ theory that dinosaurs lived 70 million years before man. God created dinosaurs on the sixth day. He created man later the same day.” (ACE, Science 1099, p. 29.)

Unfortunately, the human tracks aren’t real.  They may have been a hoax. Even the notable loons at Answers in Genesis have admitted they can’t be used as evidence for Creationism.

 

 

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Back in the Flylady forum days, one of the home-schooling posters talked about different rain-drops having a one of seven colours and when they aligned that's how a rainbow was formed..

 

That was the first time I come across this kind of alt-science.

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53 minutes ago, Seahorse Wrangler said:

Back in the Flylady forum days, one of the home-schooling posters talked about different rain-drops having a one of seven colours and when they aligned that's how a rainbow was formed..

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1 hour ago, Seahorse Wrangler said:

Back in the Flylady forum days, one of the home-schooling posters talked about different rain-drops having a one of seven colours and when they aligned that's how a rainbow was formed..

 

That was the first time I come across this kind of alt-science.

No wonder I never could get into FlyLady other than the shine your sink thing,

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No one has ever felt electricity? Really? You want to feel electricity? Hold this fork and let me direct you to this outlet. . . 

And you don't know where it comes from? So you don't know what those wind turbines are doing there? You don't know what that dam is for, or why it produces hydroelectric power? People just build these things and then hope for the best, I suppose. 

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11 hours ago, Hisey said:

And you don't know where it comes from? So you don't know what those wind turbines are doing there? You don't know what that dam is for, or why it produces hydroelectric power? People just build these things and then hope for the best, I suppose. 

Silly Hisey! Wind farms are where wind is made. Dams are there to make nice lakes out in the middle of nowhere so people have a place to take their boats.

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This is why I'm getting so crazy over Betsy DeVos as Sec. of Educaton.  I don't want my tax dollars going to pay to educate children in substandard Christian madrasas.  

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So I almost ordered BJU and Abeka for my home schoolers because I really like their writing program.It's hard to find non fundie stuff. Especially for homeschooling. Thank goodness my kids didn't lose brain cells. I saved them from this shit. 

On Sunday, January 08, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Anonymousguest said:

What the what? Electricity is a mystery? Should have seen my electrical engineers face when I read that. The book looks dated, but not that old, lol. 

My husband works in the medical field. I should show him this. 

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On 8-1-2017 at 7:33 AM, mango_fandango said:

What I've never understood is how Jesus fits into math. Science I could understand- as in, I get what they would say to explain scientific processes (obviously the fact it's all bollocks is a given)... but with math?

Q) You have five loaves of bread and two fish. How do you divide this between 5,000 people?

A) God will provide.

This made me laugh out loud. X'D
But then it also made me sad, because I wouldn't be surprised if this is actually what some people are taught. How can you take your life seriously if this is your approach to education? Believing in God and/or the bible is one thing, but this is really just taking it too far.

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I looked at the book back cover and was like "Is this about how implicit differentiation working proves Jesus or something?"

I'm reading the reviews and I'm still not sure what in hell the book covers but the idea that mathematics is "unreasonably effective in the natural sciences" is the opinion (in my opinion) of someone who isn't that well-educated in said natural sciences.

It should be noted he washed out of his Master's. So, yeah, probably. I wonder if my friend knows this guy, she got her MA from the same program about the same time.

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It should be said that ACE (Accelerated Christian Education) offers a lifetime worth of snark. A mere sampling:

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Got it? Liberals, and left-handed people, are clearly ebil. 

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Being a logophile, the claim that dinosaurs used to be called dragons piqued my interest, and seems a highly suspect claim. The only sources I could find that make this claim are religious sources. 

Also, this strikes me as an awful explanation for why the dinosaurs went extinct: It basically asserts that God set the creatures up to fail! O_o

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Humanists are lumped-in with drug pushers and pornographers. :/

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On 28 January 2017 at 5:55 PM, Black Aliss said:

Silly Hisey! Wind farms are where wind is made. Dams are there to make nice lakes out in the middle of nowhere so people have a place to take their boats.

That reminds me of a time we drove past a paper making factory 10 miles or so from our house. On a clear day we could see the steam from the big chimney from our living room window. 

#2 , who was 3 years old at the time, piped up from his car seat in the back seat "oh look Dad ( who was driving us that day), it's the cloud making machine". 

Kids can be so logical. 

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2 hours ago, THERetroGamerNY said:

Humanists are lumped-in with drug pushers and pornographers

I noticed that.  

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And the only way oppressed people were ever able to throw off abusive governments and evil was for God's people to put Biblical absolutes back into the culture. 

There's a lot packed into this single frame of agit prop, and it's brutally effective. There are many elected officials, at the local state and national level, who fervently believe this and legislate accordingly. 

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16 hours ago, lawfulevil said:

I looked at the book back cover and was like "Is this about how implicit differentiation working proves Jesus or something?"

I'm reading the reviews and I'm still not sure what in hell the book covers but the idea that mathematics is "unreasonably effective in the natural sciences" is the opinion (in my opinion) of someone who isn't that well-educated in said natural sciences.

It should be noted he washed out of his Master's. So, yeah, probably. I wonder if my friend knows this guy, she got her MA from the same program about the same time.

Did you notice the recommendations by Rushdoony and DPiaT?

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Ah yes, the Wisdom booklets in the middle of PACEs.  I vaguely remember those,  though I don't remember which subjects they were in.  It's been a long time.

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Wait, left-handed people have no values?  And what kind of weirdos do they think liberals are, that they consciously Choose "no values"?   I'm a complete left-winger, BECAUSE of my values - and while I'll disagree with right-wingers, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, and assume they're lead by more than "I think it, so I must be right". 

This is the most idiotic bullshit I've read in a long time - and I've just got through 2016!  If anyone was taught using this, how did it feel at the time?  How did parents/teachers try to justify it?

EDIT That Chick Tract makes even less sense than normal.  How come only the dinosaurs died from the lack of oxygen (or plants or whatever)?   How come God asked Noah to save them, knowing they'd die immediately after the flood?  What happened to all the carnivores?  So many questions!

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Don't try to look for logic in Christian homeschooling books. There isn't any!! :pb_lol:

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Omg I remember those BJU (Bullshit Joke University) science texts! One of them stated that "God heated the sun to an unimaginably high heat." LOL! 

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2 hours ago, mango_fandango said:

Don't try to look for logic in Christian homeschooling books. There isn't any!! :pb_lol:

I'm sure I remember one of my Christian homeschooling books covered boolean logic, so that's not strictly true.  Pun intended.

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On 1/29/2017 at 3:13 PM, THERetroGamerNY said:

It should be said that ACE (Accelerated Christian Education) offers a lifetime worth of snark. A mere sampling:

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Got it? Liberals, and left-handed people, are clearly ebil. 

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Oh, so many questions. Is ACE the Gothard curriculum, The Wisdom Books I've heard about?

Do families try to convert their left-handed kids to the right and moral and proper side?

Do they let their children marry lefties? Seems pretty risky to me.

"The canopy of water above the earth collapsed"? What? There was a canopy of water above the earth? Or is this SOTDRTese for oceans?

The dinosaurs got easier to catch by whom? Did humans hunt dinosaurs? And what about the little dino species? Why didn't they survive?

For fellow Cretaceous Era nerds, I saw there's a study suggesting that atmospheric oxygen levels in happy dinosaur times may actually have been much lower than they are now, contradicting previous theories that more oxygen means bigger creatures. http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/4963/20131119/dinosaurs-lived-in-a-low-oxygen-world-study-suggests.htm

 

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