Lori Alexander 13: Transformed and Still Judgey

[Loveday]

3 minutes ago, usmcmom said:

I cannot see any of the comments mentioned above.  Is she deleting them as soon as they come in or am I doing something wrong??  

SOMEBODY HELP ME!!!

Yesterday's notebook post about men and porn. Most of the comments in question are gone, but one is still there, with Lori's replies. But be quick, I predict the whole conversation will disappear in the flashest of flashes. 

 

[usmcmom]

2 minutes ago, Loveday said:

Yesterday's notebook post about men and porn. Most of the comments in question are gone, but one is still there, with Lori's replies. But be quick, I predict the whole conversation will disappear in the flashest of flashes. 

 

That is where I am looking but I see NO responses other than the reader who called her out. I will keep trying. Thanks. 

[church_of_dog]

Looks like the whole blog post is missing now.  For me at least.

 

Never mind.  I was only looking at the blog.  I keep forgetting everyone else has this thing called Facebook 

[Loveday]

Just now, usmcmom said:

That is where I am looking but I see NO responses other than the reader who called her out. I will keep trying. Thanks. 

Yeah, it's all gone for me too, now. She must have left it up just long enough for the reader to see her response, and then zapped it. Typical Lori. 

[usmcmom]

She is such a coward. She cannot even hold her own in a discussion on Facebook. She certainly does not stand firm in her beliefs, does she? If she did, she would not get all flustered and angry, running away when people question her. 

As for the "ladies name with a man's picture" argument: she really is just dumb isn't she?  Many people have as their profile picture someone other than themselves. Her mind is so narrow it is almost funny. 

[AlwaysDiscerning]

Christians believe they walk the narrow path, so no wonder...they have to make their mind narrow as well. 

[Koala]

Here newest pic. is just pure crazy town. It's a list of tips for how women should "respect all men, at all times".

"Never put any person before him."

"Never be too busy for him."

"It doesn't matter if the man who you are dealing with is your father, your grandfather, a boyfriend of 2 weeks, or your husband of 50 years, this is how women should respect all men, at all times."

So a woman should never put anyone before her boyfriend of 2 weeks, and never be too busy for him?

 How is that Biblical?

At the top of the page it says:

MAN LEADS...woman follows, everyone wins! 

Lori quips:

Quote

MAN LEADS...woman follows, everyone wins! Just as the Bible (the perfect Word of God) teaches. "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord." (Ephesians 5:2)

Umm, hello?  This is isn't talking about just husbands.  The page clearly says ALL men....even boyfriends of 2 weeks.

This is the fantasy of some MRA basement dweller.  Oh, and the fantasy of Lori Alexander: Teacher of MEN.

21 minutes ago, usmcmom said:

As for the "ladies name with a man's picture" argument: she really is just dumb isn't she? 

Astonishingly so.  

27 minutes ago, Loveday said:

Yeah, it's all gone for me too, now. She must have left it up just long enough for the reader to see her response, and then zapped it. Typical Lori. 

Yes, the comments are gone.  Once again, The Godly Mentor can't answer for herself.

[Koala]

Welp, people are disagreeing with her.  It's like they didn't even hear Lori when she said, "my thoughts are the word of God!".  

Reader:

Quote

First of all, a boyfriend of 2 weeks should not be getting husband benefits, period. Secondly, this is how we should be towards all men? No, sorry. My husband takes the cake on ALL OF IT. I will of course be polite but that's the most you're gonna get from me. If all men get the same treatment, my husband isn't going to feel very special in my eyes. I am usually in agreement with most of your posts, this one I am not, respectfully.

 

[Coy Koi]

Can someone please explain how I can go about never putting any person above any man? I'm trying to do the right thing here, but my feeble lady brain gets confused sometimes.

[ViolaSebastian]

Wow, the amazon reviews from that book are something to behold. How the heck did Lori think this was a good idea?

https://www.amazon.com/Man-Leads-woman-follows-Everyone/dp/1494779536

I'm also confused about how I'm supposed to "never be too busy for him" when I have a laundry list of things I gotta do, per Lori. I guess sleep is out, since I can't afford a nanny or a housekeeper. 

[louisa05]

So I commented on that ridiculous list. I merely pointed out that if I followed number 7, we would never have an intact dinner again.

Seriously, we carry on conversations while doing stuff in this house all the time. Does no one else do that? 

[linnea27]

Doesn't the bible say something about not being able to serve two masters? I wonder how Lori thinks that all women can meet #11 on that list, never putting another person before him, when "him" apparently refers to your new boyfriend, your father, your grandfather, and every other male in your life, simultaneously.

Also, whatever happened to "leave and cleave"?

[louisa05]

9 minutes ago, linnea27 said:

Doesn't the bible say something about not being able to serve two masters? I wonder how Lori thinks that all women can meet #11 on that list, never putting another person before him, when "him" apparently refers to your new boyfriend, your father, your grandfather, and every other male in your life, simultaneously.

Also, whatever happened to "leave and cleave"?

I'm just not sure that I would want to be in a relationship with anyone who just wants someone to basically worship him. Maybe I'm over-analyzing it, but I feel like men who want this kind of wife have serious self-esteem issues and are using women to make them feel worthy. 

I pushed back on something on her porn post pointing out what the Bible says about how men are to treat their wives and, of course, a male defender pulled out her old standby defense: "Lori is not teaching men". What an easy out that is. 

 

[quiversR4hunting]

I love Samsung easy screen shots. Bummer I missed the big post (I slept in until 8 and then ran 3 miles in the snow. I know shame on me for putting my needs first.)

Spoiler

 

[louisa05]

So I just explained the benefits of egalitarian marriage to Lori. I assume I will be banned from her FB page. 

[linnea27]

45 minutes ago, louisa05 said:

I'm just not sure that I would want to be in a relationship with anyone who just wants someone to basically worship him. Maybe I'm over-analyzing it, but I feel like men who want this kind of wife have serious self-esteem issues and are using women to make them feel worthy. 

 

I am skeeved out by the idea of these men's sex lives. Wanting to have sex with someone who is subservient to you, who is "available" to you at any time you wish, and with only your pleasure in mind is so... predatory. 

[quiversR4hunting]

6 minutes ago, louisa05 said:

So I just explained the benefits of egalitarian marriage to Lori. I assume I will be banned from her FB page. 

That's OK, I have screenshots. She can't deny it didn't happen

I like what you said, she won't. I think it is the way a marriage should be, give and take. Mutual respect.

[louisa05]

34 minutes ago, quiversR4hunting said:

That's OK, I have screenshots. She can't deny it didn't happen

I like what you said, she won't. I think it is the way a marriage should be, give and take. Mutual respect.

She just informed me that I disagree with her because she "teaches biblical principles". I actually started laughing. 

My church compiled that Bible for you, you moron. 

 

[seattlechic]

11 minutes ago, louisa05 said:

She just informed me that I disagree with her because she "teaches biblical principles". I actually started laughing. 

My church compiled that Bible for you, you moron. 

 

I saw that. Respect to you my friend!  I loved the "you wouldn't understand equal marriage" omg you are my hero for the day. 

[louisa05]

14 minutes ago, seattlechic said:

I saw that. Respect to you my friend!  I loved the "you wouldn't understand equal marriage" omg you are my hero for the day. 

She's not giving in. I'm surprised I haven't been deleted yet. 

ETA: And she's still arguing...if I can't give her a verse that specifically says that one must not deny someone using their gifts and talents, then that cannot be a biblical principle. Arguing theology with literalists...ugh. Impossible. 

[polecat]

1. I am really sick and tired of Earl trashing his wife so publicly. If he's that miserably unhappy with her, divorce her. Otherwise, talk to her, get therapy, go to counseling, do SOMETHING. But stop bitching about her in front of GODLORI and everyone else in Facebook land.

 

2. That list. Sometimes I won't look at my husband when talking to them. We talk on the phone, you know. It's a thing. Most of the other things I already do -- but only with my husband. Other men can go fly a kite. They're not my problem. Especially not the Earls of the world. 

[seattlechic]

21 minutes ago, louisa05 said:

She's not giving in. I'm surprised I haven't been deleted yet. 

ETA: And she's still arguing...if I can't give her a verse that specifically says that one must not deny someone using their gifts and talents, then that cannot be a biblical principle. Arguing theology with literalists...ugh. Impossible. 

Resilient she is, the bitch.

Oh shit, I just read your last response, @polecat. Hats off, you know your Bible. I had a Bible once.... it had pictures on it. 

[louisa05]

1 minute ago, seattlechic said:

Resilient she is, the bitch.

I had my evangelical years after spending six years in Catholic school (while not being Catholic). I remember just being confused so often at how the evangelicals were willing to blow off the big picture of what Jesus taught in order to obsess over scripture passages that were a verse or two taken entirely out of their context. The latter part of my exchange with Lori is totally a demonstration of that. Never mind loving and respecting all people, never mind letting all people have an abundant life, because if there is not a Bible verse that specifically speaks to that specific issue, then it can't possibly be "biblical". 

And that is how I ended up Catholic. Because for all its faults, the Catholic church does not believe that the Bible is a handbook for life used by taking bits and pieces out of context. 

[quiversR4hunting]

28 minutes ago, louisa05 said:

She's not giving in. I'm surprised I haven't been deleted yet. 

ETA: And she's still arguing...if I can't give her a verse that specifically says that one must not deny someone using their gifts and talents, then that cannot be a biblical principle. Arguing theology with literalists...ugh. Impossible. 

I'm shocked too. You are doing great. 

Like you, I'm Catholic and never understood drilling down to one verse and taking it out of context. Granted there are some ass hole Catholics that do the same thing but in general Catholics are more big picture than fundie and some evangelicals.

[polecat]

11 minutes ago, seattlechic said:

Resilient she is, the bitch.

Oh shit, I just read your last response, @polecat. Hats off, you know your Bible. I had a Bible once.... it had pictures on it. 

 

Oh, that's not me! I'm not going up against her on Facebook. I'm not nearly brave enough.