Jinger and Jeremy: Love and Marriage

[backyard sylph]

45 minutes ago, MoonFace said:

 What the hell is it with these people and hats?  Having Marcs or was it Michael ?, wear a hat in a church is very disrespectful.   You don't wear a hat inside - especially a church!

 

and how did they get Boob to give up his position of giving them permission to kiss?

 

Notice that although Dickrick grabbed Jill to kiss her and walk her back up the aisle (let's make the sister in law's wedding about US!) that Benwit didn't smooch his wife and that Joshy didn't run and grab Anna.  He kept a low profile.   Ha

Men remove their hats in church; women don't. Long-standing tradition. And even though many churches aren't populated with hat-wearing women these days, it's still common for weddings.

[MoonFace]

44 minutes ago, backyard sylph said:

Men remove their hats in church; women don't. Long-standing tradition. And even though many churches aren't populated with hat-wearing women these days, it's still common for weddings.

I was referring to the soccer ball bearer wearing his hat.  He should not have been wearing it in church no matter how cute the outfit.   

Of course he has Uncle Benwit as an example- he has worn his backwards hats in church to speak

Must be Mechelle needs orthopedic shoes.   Even with that nice dress she was wearing the ugly black shoes.

[JemimaPuddle-Duck]

3 minutes ago, MoonFace said:

I was referring to the soccer ball bearer wearing his hat.  He should not have been wearing it in church no matter how cute the outfit.   

Of course he has Uncle Benwit as an example- he has worn his backwards hats in church to speak

Must be Mechelle needs orthopedic shoes.   Even with that nice dress she was wearing the ugly black shoes.

Ben has worn his hat in church!!? Are you sure?

[imokit]

I'm sorry, I get that brides should have a say over their own wedding, but with kids its different.  Its all or nothing (though there can be occasions where one is allowed).

Jinger had a sister photo with all the big girls (including Anna), and Hannie and Josie.   If Hannie/Josie was her buddy, she could have had one in the wedding party.  But the instant she wanted 2 of them, she needed to make a choice between 1 or 4 of the little girls.  Leaving them out when everyone else is in, is cruel.  Even bride's have to balance their needs with others.

[HarleyQuinn]

^I didn't think of it that way, but it makes me feel a bit sad for Jenni. Jill had them all, Jessa only had Jordyn, and now Jinger had Johannah (I can never use the name Hannie) and Josie. So really, Jennifer hasn't gotten a chance to feel "special" yet.

I guess Joy will have to use her. 

[EmmyJay]

I'm sorry, I get that brides should have a say over their own wedding, but with kids its different.  Its all or nothing (though there can be occasions where one is allowed).
Jinger had a sister photo with all the big girls (including Anna), and Hannie and Josie.   If Hannie/Josie was her buddy, she could have had one in the wedding party.  But the instant she wanted 2 of them, she needed to make a choice between 1 or 4 of the little girls.  Leaving them out when everyone else is in, is cruel.  Even bride's have to balance their needs with others.

While that's true, they may not have wanted to be in the wedding. They honestly might be over it all.

[FlamingFundie]

1 hour ago, EmmyJay said:

I'd also love to know why sierra wasn't featured at all; yet jinger was shown doing family photos for her in the before episode.

 

 

Well, duh! It's obvious, isn't it? 

Sierra's Impressive Wedding Planner Skillzzzz (tm) are nationally known and recognized thanks to free advertising when doing the other Duggar events, and now in high demand. Clearly she had already committed herself to another high-profile Passing of the Headship Ceremony. Too bad so sad for Jinger for wanting down the isle so quickly, otherwise I am sure that Professional Wedding Planner Sierra would have graced them with her Impressive Wedding Planner Skillzzzz (tm).

[JemimaPuddle-Duck]

13 minutes ago, EmmyJay said:

 

While that's true, they may not have wanted to be in the wedding. They honestly might be over it all.

 

And I'm sure there are photos of ALL the sisters, they just released the photo of the sisters who were in the wedding party. 

[Fluffy14]

People I am new. Why does it say " You're all going to Hell  above my bee hive?

[VineHeart137]

47 minutes ago, imokit said:

I'm sorry, I get that brides should have a say over their own wedding, but with kids its different.  Its all or nothing (though there can be occasions where one is allowed).

Jinger had a sister photo with all the big girls (including Anna), and Hannie and Josie.   If Hannie/Josie was her buddy, she could have had one in the wedding party.  But the instant she wanted 2 of them, she needed to make a choice between 1 or 4 of the little girls.  Leaving them out when everyone else is in, is cruel.  Even bride's have to balance their needs with others.

How old is Jenny again? Isn't she getting a little old to be a flower girl? And they already had, IMO, far too many bridesmaids. It's even possible Jenny didn't want to be in it. She's old enough to be over all the wedding sh!t. And it's very likely at some point Jinger took photos with all of her sisters, not just the ones in the wedding party.

I kind of get what you're saying, but I'm not sure I agree that it had to be all or none. But then, I am also against the whole "everybody gets a trophy" mentality.

[MoonFace]

1 hour ago, JemimaPuddle-Duck said:

Ben has worn his hat in church!!? Are you sure?

Yes, there was a segment where they were leading some kind of group at a church.    It wasn't a actual Sunday morning church service but  he was in a church wearing a hat.   I remember commenting on here at the time but can't find the reference. 

The best I can come up with is http://www.enstarz.com/articles/154400/20160416/jessa-duggar-update-husband-ben-seewald-criticized-being-rude-church.htm

[2manyKidzzz]

38 minutes ago, Fluffy14 said:

People I am new. Why does it say " You're all going to Hell  above my bee hive?

These are names given for the number of posts you have made. Nothing personal at all!!

[MoonFace]

I am SICK of them saying that they are GIVING their daughter away - like she is a house plant they no longer want/need. 

 

Also. that lit up wreath on Josie makes her look like she is participating in a Christmas pageant.    And why the hell is she wearing those chandelier earrings?    

 

Is it lustful for a dad to front hug a daughter?    At what point did Jimboob stop hugging his little girls like a normal daddy and turn that in to a sexual experience? 

[BeccaGrim]

3 hours ago, MoonFace said:

 What the hell is it with these people and hats?  Having Marcs or was it Michael ?, wear a hat in a church is very disrespectful.   You don't wear a hat inside - especially a church!

 

and how did they get Boob to give up his position of giving them permission to kiss?

 

Notice that although Dickrick grabbed Jill to kiss her and walk her back up the aisle (let's make the sister in law's wedding about US!) that Benwit didn't smooch his wife and that Joshy didn't run and grab Anna.  He kept a low profile.   Ha

I actually thought it was smart to have Ben walk with JoHanna.  That way she was with family, since she is so young.  And they have to be so careful of appearances.  I agree! Way to make Jinger's wedding all about them! And Josh grabbing Anna...yeah, I can't see that happening, not even before it all went publicly downhill. 

[alba]

47 minutes ago, Fluffy14 said:

People I am new. Why does it say " You're all going to Hell  above my bee hive?

That's your post count title! See here for more details.

[samurai_sarah]

46 minutes ago, Fluffy14 said:

People I am new. Why does it say " You're all going to Hell  above my bee hive?

As @2manyKidzzz said, they are just post-count titles based on things FJers found funny. They change if you reach x-number of posts, unless you have a custom-made title. Mine, for example, doesn't change 'cos I'm special and shit because helpmeets get to pick their own.

[RhythmicSkater]

1 hour ago, HarleyQuinn said:

^I didn't think of it that way, but it makes me feel a bit sad for Jenni. Jill had them all, Jessa only had Jordyn, and now Jinger had Johannah (I can never use the name Hannie) and Josie. So really, Jennifer hasn't gotten a chance to feel "special" yet.

I guess Joy will have to use her. 

Unless Jenni doesn't want to be in the wedding? She always struck me as quite shy, and maybe wouldn't want to be up on stage in front of that many people… though who knows really; we never get to see anything of Jenni and Jordyn these days. 

Just finished watching the wedding - weirdly, I kind of liked it? I thought it was really well executed, and the silly little mistakes were kind of charming (like the candle disaster). 

Also thought it was so cute how Ben was walking with Johannah; he was walking with his knees more bent so she wouldn't have to reach up as high and kept looking down to check on her - it was adorbs. Ben probably likes kids because he's still one of them

And Derick. Oh Derick. At least Jill looked embarrassed. 

[ClaraOswin]

3 hours ago, MoonFace said:

 What the hell is it with these people and hats?  Having Marcs or was it Michael ?, wear a hat in a church is very disrespectful.   You don't wear a hat inside - especially a church!

 

and how did they get Boob to give up his position of giving them permission to kiss?

 

Notice that although Dickrick grabbed Jill to kiss her and walk her back up the aisle (let's make the sister in law's wedding about US!) that Benwit didn't smooch his wife and that Joshy didn't run and grab Anna.  He kept a low profile.   Ha

I haven't see the hat in question. But don't people in England often wear hats to weddings?

I've also seen men in top hats during weddings. So I don't think it's completely unheard of.

I wear a baseball cap inside a lot (not at church....I don't attend church) so I guess I'm going to hell. Ha!

1 hour ago, HarleyQuinn said:

^I didn't think of it that way, but it makes me feel a bit sad for Jenni. Jill had them all, Jessa only had Jordyn, and now Jinger had Johannah (I can never use the name Hannie) and Josie. So really, Jennifer hasn't gotten a chance to feel "special" yet.

I guess Joy will have to use her. 

Was Jennifer in cousin Amy's wedding or did I imagine that?

I wouldn't be surprised if she would rather NOT be in weddings. She's quite shy, I think.

[Georgiana]

I really think the issue is not the inclusion of Hannie, but the way that the Duggars over-baby and fawn all over Josie.  Of COURSE Josie is in the wedding!  She's precious miracle Josie!  She is the special child, so she must ALWAYS be included.  

First, this treatment isn't doing Josie any favors.  She's encouraged to act below her age when a child with her medical history should be encouraged to act at age level as much as possible.  

Second, there are 19 kids and Josie is CLEARLY given special treatment.  Michelle fawns over her.  Jill feeds her cereal at age 5.  This is in STARK contrast to ALL the other kids who were pushed to grow up and become independent early.  Josie always gets attention.  Josie always gets to do what she wants because JOSIE is a special, precious miracle.  HOW is that supposed to make the other kids feel? 

And again, it's detrimental to Josie.  She needs to learn independence and how to function when she is NOT the center of attention, which we've seen hints that she struggles with now.  She needs to start transitioning into more age-appropriate behavior, or she is going to struggle to have relationships outside of her family (which may be strained if her siblings resent her).  She needs to be challenged appropriately so that her parents can see where she struggles and make sure she gets help.  

My cousin was a lot like Josie (premie, hostile uterine environment), and my aunt and uncle treated her the same way Michelle and JB treat Josie.  At 18, the girl is a wreck and a nightmare.  Friendless (sadly, for good reason), strained in her relationships with family (also for good reason), and completely unable to function as an adult.  For 18 years of her life she was petted, indulged, and never permitted to be criticized, so now she cannot handle things as little as the conversation not being about her preferred topic.  

[EmainMacha]

17 minutes ago, ClaraOswin said:

I haven't see the hat in question. But don't people in England often wear hats to weddings?

I've also seen men in top hats during weddings. So I don't think it's completely unheard of.

Women in England often wear hats to weddings but traditionally women are allowed, or expected, to wear hats in church. For example it's only post Vatican II that women don't wear headcoverings like hats or mantillas when attending Mass. So you'd get away with the baseball cap if you were in a church;)

With men and the top hats they're normally removed when in the church and only worn outside. Same with uniform caps/hats etc in military weddings.

I think it's all from one of Paul's letters to do with coverings in church.

[WhyNotJulie]

23 hours ago, JMO said:

I think it's the real deal.  She also follows Tacos4Life and the Hartonos.  Not to mention Britton Felber, wasn't that her photographer?   And the dress maker.  Not to mention Huckabee.  The comments actually do seem real.  And Jill's instagram has "official" in it.   She is also following McKenzie Elizabeth Peters, who also has a private account and has as her avatar a picture of her in a bridesmaid's dress with Jinger.  Didn't we figure out that McKenzie was the unknown final bridesmaid? 

The question isn't who the account follows, but rather, who follows the account.

I'm pretty certain the real Jinger Vuolo instagram will be followed by all the various duggars & friends.

[backyard sylph]

3 hours ago, MoonFace said:

I was referring to the soccer ball bearer wearing his hat.  He should not have been wearing it in church no matter how cute the outfit.   

Of course he has Uncle Benwit as an example- he has worn his backwards hats in church to speak

Must be Mechelle needs orthopedic shoes.   Even with that nice dress she was wearing the ugly black shoes.

I see. I was uncertain about whom you were laying your concern.

Michelle was also more stooped as she left the candlelighting to walk back to her seat. It struck me that the pretty youthful girl was still reflected in her face, while her gait was that of someone old and infirm.

[danni9242]

So I Youtubed the wedding:

Didn't it seem like a really rushed episode after the Jessa Jill specials?

So GLAD there was some respect for Grandmas Duggar and Vuolo escorting them in first. I think that's Vuolo  family influence. 

LOL at the candle fail, naughty wedding planners.

The wedding planner as mechelle's friend made sure she had a decent dress.

LOL at Derrick pulling a Ben on the escourting bridesmaids things. Awkward kiss recreation.

[VineHeart137]

1 hour ago, Georgiana said:

I really think the issue is not the inclusion of Hannie, but the way that the Duggars over-baby and fawn all over Josie.  Of COURSE Josie is in the wedding!  She's precious miracle Josie!  She is the special child, so she must ALWAYS be included.  

First, this treatment isn't doing Josie any favors.  She's encouraged to act below her age when a child with her medical history should be encouraged to act at age level as much as possible.  

Second, there are 19 kids and Josie is CLEARLY given special treatment.  Michelle fawns over her.  Jill feeds her cereal at age 5.  This is in STARK contrast to ALL the other kids who were pushed to grow up and become independent early.  Josie always gets attention.  Josie always gets to do what she wants because JOSIE is a special, precious miracle.  HOW is that supposed to make the other kids feel? 

And again, it's detrimental to Josie.  She needs to learn independence and how to function when she is NOT the center of attention, which we've seen hints that she struggles with now.  She needs to start transitioning into more age-appropriate behavior, or she is going to struggle to have relationships outside of her family (which may be strained if her siblings resent her).  She needs to be challenged appropriately so that her parents can see where she struggles and make sure she gets help.  

My cousin was a lot like Josie (premie, hostile uterine environment), and my aunt and uncle treated her the same way Michelle and JB treat Josie.  At 18, the girl is a wreck and a nightmare.  Friendless (sadly, for good reason), strained in her relationships with family (also for good reason), and completely unable to function as an adult.  For 18 years of her life she was petted, indulged, and never permitted to be criticized, so now she cannot handle things as little as the conversation not being about her preferred topic.  

To be fair, I don't think Josie has received special treatment in any of the weddings. Jill included all of her sisters, Josie wasn't in Jessa's, and Jinger needed a flower girl and her buddy Hannie is too old so naturally she went with the youngest girl.

However I do agree that we've seen plenty of instances of Josie being babied. She was a preemie and is the baby of the family, so I understand why she is treated the way she is, it's common for the youngest to be treated like a baby for longer than older siblings. But she's what, going on 7 now? They're going to have a real problem on their hands if they let the precious fragile baby treatment go on much longer.

[SassyPants]

Michelle looked nice-