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Jazz Hands, Sparkle Crotch: Erika Schupe Pt. 9

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backyard sylph
17 minutes ago, Anonymousguest said:

Lots of the low carb diets say no carrots. No corn or peas as well. I say no one is obese from eating too many carrots. But the diet seems to have worked well for her, and it was healthy enough for short term. It appears she's maintained the loss. 

They do that partly because of the glycemic index situation. But corn is probably not on any of the good "any time" lists, and peas do have fiber and potassium, and vitamin C, but don't pack quite as strong a nutritional punch as carrots, I think somewhat because of how they're usually prepared.

This is, however, a broader concern than carrots, or tomatoes, or any individual food. People don't usually sustain headline diets very well, and also would do better to look at the big picture rather than a single element. But if it taught her to abstain from her biggest problem foods, then it will have done something good, though it will not have made her into someone to go to for nutritional advice.

—Me: dealing with hypoglycemia since 1978, yet will never be a Gloria Swanson.

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sorry sorry, I just worry I'm not linear enough for sense-making, so I add clauses..

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mango_fandango
35 minutes ago, JillyO said:

So Erika is trying to shill her Lila Rose MLM crap again. One of her followers asks if it's worth the initial investment:

As usual, Erika completely deflects:

Way to avoid answering the important question, Erika! :clap:

She's got form for doing this. One of the most ridiculous examples was in reply to a comment made on a photo of Lacey and Lilly 'pretending' to fold laundry. Original question was "Do you find only your girls like to help?" and Erika basically replied like the person had asked "do you find that the twins like to help out?" and going on about how she calls jobs "jobs" and not "chores" because chore has negative connotations, and how we're placed on this earth to serve and tell others about Jesus, not purely for entertainment, blah de fucking blah... Once again, totally missing the point.

For some reason I couldn't get copy and paste to work (on my phone).

The original comment is about seventh down; you'll recognise it.

https://m.facebook.com/LargeFamiliesOnPurpose/photos/a.209805625729213.48767.171658456210597/1021385824571185/?type=3&source=54

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December
1 hour ago, JillyO said:

So Erika is trying to shill her Lila Rose MLM crap again. One of her followers asks if it's worth the initial investment:

As usual, Erika completely deflects:

Way to avoid answering the important question, Erika! :clap:

Oh, I think her answer was pretty clear: when you can't unload your MLM products on random people, meet your quotas by selling it to family members who can't say no! 

So much emphasis on being SAHMs and SAHDs for fundies, and yet so many of them doing MLMs. To me, that is evidence for the obvious: not every family can subsist on a single income in a way they find comfortable, and not every woman feels personally fulfilled being a SAHM. There's nothing wrong with single-income families or SAHMs, but it's such bunk that either is optimal for all families and all women. 

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FJismyheadship

Wow she's terrible at answering questions.

I know someone doing Arbonne, and if I asked her if it was worth it, she would tell me about all of the people she has met, how much the products have helped her personally, and so on. Thus woman isn't even a sales person, but she tells how Arbonne worked for HER, showing that it can be worth the investment.

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slickcat79
18 hours ago, December said:

Oh, I think her answer was pretty clear: when you can't unload your MLM products on random people, meet your quotas by selling it to family members who can't say no!

Ding, ding, ding!! Or she's basically saying that you'll probably end up buying a ton of the stuff yourself with the "personal discount", but it's ok that you can't offload it because you can just keep it all and give it to EVERYONE as a gift *shit-eating grin*

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16strong

For all that she shills Lilla Rose, I'm not sure I've ever seen any of the girls wearing the products. 

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mango_fandango
17 minutes ago, 16strong said:

For all that she shills Lilla Rose, I'm not sure I've ever seen any of the girls wearing the products. 

No. Only in adverts for them. Karen and Erika have both featured in photos Erika's posted, I think- looking through the FB albums I've definitely seen ones of Erika and I'm pretty damn sure I've seen Karen in one (or at least the back of her head), but can't find it right now.

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church_of_dog

I just figured out why this thread title seemed just a bit off to me (in spite of how much I love it).  

Finally dawned on me -- shouldn't it be "Jazz Hands, Sparkle Front Bottom"?

:shifty:

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snickerz

That vegetable/meat diet is so dismal and restrictive! (Therefore it's perfect for her!) She used to do Trim Healthy Mama which at least allowed her to eat carbs with certain meals. If Erika were overweight I could kinda/sorta understand trying weird restrictive diets for a "jump start" or out of desperation, but she is not overweight, not even a little. Why is she obsessed with dieting?

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2 hours ago, snickerz said:

That vegetable/meat diet is so dismal and restrictive! (Therefore it's perfect for her!) She used to do Trim Healthy Mama which at least allowed her to eat carbs with certain meals. If Erika were overweight I could kinda/sorta understand trying weird restrictive diets for a "jump start" or out of desperation, but she is not overweight, not even a little. Why is she obsessed with dieting?

It's an old post. She used the diet to lose the second 30lbs of 60 when the twins were little. She did the trim healthy diet after that. 

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elliha
6 hours ago, snickerz said:

That vegetable/meat diet is so dismal and restrictive! (Therefore it's perfect for her!) She used to do Trim Healthy Mama which at least allowed her to eat carbs with certain meals. If Erika were overweight I could kinda/sorta understand trying weird restrictive diets for a "jump start" or out of desperation, but she is not overweight, not even a little. Why is she obsessed with dieting?

Well skinny people who want to lose weight often do need to use very restrictive diets to lose weight. Not every one of those pounds was a necessary pound from a health point of view and then starving is often necessary.

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mango_fandango

They've been to a water park- well, apart from Karen and Melanie. Twins are dressed identically, as per, and Anna Marie is stuck in Melanie's old modest swim suit. 

Every time Erika does something without Karen and Melanie, I wonder what they're doing instead. I hope they're scoffing as many jelly beans as they can. 

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DutchGirl

But the twins are in shorts!  I can understand that Erika wants to use the modest bathingsuit as long as she can, it probably was expensive. And Anna Marie is not dressed that differend from her sibblings who are in shirts and shorts. I am happy to see that apparantly she didn't feel the need to buy new modest swimsuits for the twins, but let them ware shorts like their brothers.

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SoybeanQueen
On 7/16/2016 at 4:47 PM, Rubaiyat said:

 I get up every morning and think "can we just burn it down and start over?"  Sigh...

Any large-family parent would understand if you did. I'm trying to motivate myself to go through two boxes of random crap from my closet. I, too, am tempted to just burn it, but I suspect there may be a few important missing items in there. This would never happen to dear Erika. But, I can eat vegetables without checking a list, so I think I win.

On 7/18/2016 at 4:52 AM, Chevreuil said:

We are also a family of seven and my middle two are constantly bring home rocks. They dont look like anything, they're just rocks.

We also go on walks that we call "dinosaur hunts" and they're always bringing home sticks ("dinosaur bones", particularly pterodactyl bones which isnt even a true dinosaur but they wont listen to reason) and i have to wait until they fall asleep to get rid of them because if they catch me, oh man (same with their rocks)

 

I love the dinosaur walk idea! My littlest would be so happy to do that. My house often features not-very-decorative clusters of sticks. The boys also bring me bunches of wildflowers (and flowering weeds that make my allergies go crazy) so I am willing to forgive the sticks if I have a jar of mangled flowers on the counter.

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princessmahina
10 hours ago, elliha said:

Well skinny people who want to lose weight often do need to use very restrictive diets to lose weight. Not every one of those pounds was a necessary pound from a health point of view and then starving is often necessary.

I think Erika is obsessed because she used to be heavy (a natural consequence of eleventy back to back pregnancies on a crap diet) and is terrified of gaining the weight back. She said she was a size six before all the children. If you look at her mother and sister, they've both remained slim. They may have said something (or Bob may have, despite not being super slim himself) to make her feel bad about herself. 

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mango_fandango
19 minutes ago, princessmahina said:

I think Erika is obsessed because she used to be heavy (a natural consequence of eleventy back to back pregnancies on a crap diet) and is terrified of gaining the weight back. She said she was a size six before all the children. If you look at her mother and sister, they've both remained slim. They may have said something (or Bob may have, despite not being super slim himself) to make her feel bad about herself. 

Yeah. She was something like a size 16 before the diet. (I originally thought size 20 but then I realised that I'd mentally converted to British sizing. An American 6 is a British 10.)

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elliha
15 hours ago, DutchGirl said:

But the twins are in shorts!  I can understand that Erika wants to use the modest bathingsuit as long as she can, it probably was expensive. And Anna Marie is not dressed that differend from her sibblings who are in shirts and shorts. I am happy to see that apparantly she didn't feel the need to buy new modest swimsuits for the twins, but let them ware shorts like their brothers.

I think actually that even before "the change" Erika was OK with shorts for swimming for younger kids. I think I remember something like that from her blog so this might not be new.

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December
15 hours ago, elliha said:

I think actually that even before "the change" Erika was OK with shorts for swimming for younger kids. I think I remember something like that from her blog so this might not be new.

I remember something similar. I think Erika has always been a little less strict on the clothing than other families discussed here. 

On July 21, 2016 at 5:37 AM, mango_fandango said:

Every time Erika does something without Karen and Melanie, I wonder what they're doing instead. I hope they're scoffing as many jelly beans as they can. 

It sure would appear they pushed for a little more independence and got it. I've always thought this family was more likely to move back towards mainstream beliefs and practices than others. It does sound like these young women are starting to make lives and relationships outside of their immediate family and not in the fake way many families here have their SAHDs go on what are essentially extended play dates or lend them to other families to do housework and childcare. Hopefully the Schupes will notice the benefits and relax more for the little kids' sake. 

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princessmahina

She's posted some interesting things recently, like the picture where you put gift bows on basic necessities like food and water. 

Or the "enter to win" a breeder mobile. 

And of course, a delightful repost about scheduling your children so intensely that I'm legit surprised she hasn't scheduled an order/routine of dreams and nightmares for her childrens' sleep each night. 

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mango_fandango

Back to that meat/veg diet thing, what I found kinda worrying was that she used liberal amounts of sea salt. There are many "villains" cited in weight loss, but salt can pose a major problem, ie raising your blood pressure. My mum does not add any salt to food, primarily because of my dad (his kidneys are buggered due to high blood pressure, he's OK otherwise just waiting for a transplant). The recommended allowance for adults is only about 6g, and my parents are pretty vigilant when it comes to checking food labels for the salt content. 

 

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LiterallyBananas

@mango_fandango good for your parents for diligently limiting sodium. I'm an RN--in my experience, many people don't give a crap about following their recommended diet, despite having life threatening medical conditions. I get that it's hard and requires more forethought, but it's sad seeing the terrible issues noncompliance can cause. :(

(Also... first post. After lurking for quite a while, I didn't think it would be on the ~evils of salt~... but yeah.)

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Anonymousguest
2 hours ago, mango_fandango said:

Back to that meat/veg diet thing, what I found kinda worrying was that she used liberal amounts of sea salt. There are many "villains" cited in weight loss, but salt can pose a major problem, ie raising your blood pressure. My mum does not add any salt to food, primarily because of my dad (his kidneys are buggered due to high blood pressure, he's OK otherwise just waiting for a transplant). The recommended allowance for adults is only about 6g, and my parents are pretty vigilant when it comes to checking food labels for the salt content. 

 

Most sodium intake comes from eating processed foods, as you mentioned in checking labels. If you are eating only plain grilled meat and steamed veggies with salt added to taste you are very unlikely to consume much sodium.

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FundamentallyShocked
On 7/16/2016 at 4:47 PM, Rubaiyat said:

Preach it, sister!  There are only 6 of us, and I hear every word of your post.  We're preparing to move thousands of miles away, so we're trying to pare down.  I get up every morning and think "can we just burn it down and start over?"  Sigh...

I've had that thought, too! In my dreams, we would get rid of 60% of what we own. Have you heard about Kon Mari and the Magic of decluttering (or something like that)? I did my work office and it truly is freeing to have just exactly what use you available and to have a place for everything. I have a fraction of what everyone else has in their office and am still just as productive. My office is my happy place; my home is still infested with many kids and animals...and a husband. In other words, it is full of piles and clutter. :tw_grin:

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mango_fandango
1 hour ago, Anonymousguest said:

Most sodium intake comes from eating processed foods, as you mentioned in checking labels. If you are eating only plain grilled meat and steamed veggies with salt added to taste you are very unlikely to consume much sodium.

Actually, yeah, that's true. It just seemed a little odd to me (adding the salt).

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princessmahina
54 minutes ago, FundamentallyShocked said:

I've had that thought, too! In my dreams, we would get rid of 60% of what we own. Have you heard about Kon Mari and the Magic of decluttering (or something like that)? I did my work office and it truly is freeing to have just exactly what use you available and to have a place for everything. I have a fraction of what everyone else has in their office and am still just as productive. My office is my happy place; my home is still infested with many kids and animals...and a husband. In other words, it is full of piles and clutter. :tw_grin:

I still think Erika wants to get in on this. I was re-reading her scheduling post (the one she has flagged on facebook right now) and I particularly enjoyed how she said she waits for God to tell her what to do. Imagine, if instead of an item bringing you joy (or however it's worded), you sat there with a pair of shoes in your lap, waiting for God to tell you to ditch them? *chuckle*

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