Jinger & the MetrosexualSoccerPlayerPastor (Courting 3)

[justmy2cents]

He most likely moved on because there was no more future for him in playing soccer but he did have other options than being a preacher.  The guy is well spoken and looks comfortable on camera.  He could have transitioned into a Commentator or he could have looked for a coaching position.  Didn't he get a degree in Finance?  Of course if he had chosen one of those he probably wouldn't have been approved for a courtship in Duggarland.  He deliberately chose to be a preacher even with other options available. I don't have anything personal against him but I never pictured JInger with a Preacher. 

[formergothardite]

13 hours ago, sunshine said:

I was referring to both Jeremy and Josh. I add Josh after the dots to separate it a bit.I wonder is he got tested too. Jinger is pure and Jeremy is probably experience. So, would JB want to get him tested.

I don't even think Jim Bob is that creepy. 

I'm not sure why people think he is gay. 

[justmy2cents]

1 minute ago, formergothardite said:

I don't even think Jim Bob is that creepy. 

I'm not sure why people think he is gay. 

Because of a comment someone left on People Magazine.  Not the most reliable source if you ask me.

[formergothardite]

LOL, yeah, I would say that is a totally unreliable source.

[Gobbles]

51 minutes ago, VelociRapture said:

Professional Soccer (or football) isn't that popular here. Hubby and I have talked about trying to watch it on tv a bit in the future though - we like tying new things and expanding our horizons.

I think Americans watching football must be like me watching the Super Bowl. I do that every year and every year I tell myself never again. I still can't figure out the rules. And somehow it looks like it is just a couple of men running into each other which makes even less sense than a couple of men running behind a ball. ;-) The many breaks in American football are so weird. Two minute play, break, two minute play, break... 

46 minutes ago, trisprefect said:

Does Spielerfrau mean the same thing as footballer's wife? If so, that is a very funny image indeed.

Yes! The online dictionary translated it to swag. 

25 minutes ago, ophelia said:

I'm also from Germany and I think it's great that you went to Klinsmann's bakery.

It is so weird. I try to act like a ordinary customer but I can't help being amazed by standing in "his" bakery. My Grandpa met Klinsmann while he was playing for the Stuttgarter Kickers once. (My Grandpa was an athlete as well, but in wrestling. The Olympic kind of wrestling, not that show thing on TV.)

[trisprefect]

1 minute ago, Gobbles said:

I think Americans watching football must be like me watching the Super Bowl. I do that every year and every year I tell myself never again. I still can't figure out the rules. And somehow it looks like it is just a couple of men running into each other which makes even less sense than a couple of men running behind a ball. ;-) The many breaks in American football are so weird. Two minute play, break, two minute play, break... 

Yes, American football is a bit silly. Soccer/football is definitely on the rise here in the US, especially among millennials and younger. I've been watching soccer since I was a kid -- Chelsea is my team, but I always root for Germany in international competitions because I love Germany and that's where my family's ancestors are from. I've noticed that a lot of people start getting into soccer in college, especially if they go somewhere that has international students. Among my group of friends, acquaintances, and family members, I know a surprising number of casual fans and more than a few die hard fans. So there's hope! Give it another 20 years and I can see big things for American soccer.

[VelociRapture]

7 minutes ago, Gobbles said:

I think Americans watching football must be like me watching the Super Bowl. I do that every year and every year I tell myself never again. I still can't figure out the rules. And somehow it looks like it is just a couple of men running into each other which makes even less sense than a couple of men running behind a ball. ;-) The many breaks in American football are so weird. Two minute play, break, two minute play, break... 

Lol!!!

I played soccer a bit when I was really young and my Uncles were All American players in college (basically, considered the best of the best along US players.) So I do know a bit about the rules of the game - not enough to really follow along well though.

I'm still trying to understand basketball and American Football. Hubby does his best to explain to me, but I still fall asleep watching basketball. American Football is a lot more fun when you can be at the game in person - we actually spent the day after our wedding last year at a NY Jets game and it was a blast. Tons of people were congratulating us because I got us personalized shirts with our wedding date on it. Pretty sure I won Wifey of the Year Award for that. I jokingly said we were honeymooning with Fitzpatrick (their Quarterback at the time.)

4 minutes ago, trisprefect said:

Yes, American football is a bit silly. Soccer/football is definitely on the rise here in the US, especially among millennials and younger. I've been watching soccer since I was a kid -- Chelsea is my team, but I always root for Germany in international competitions because I love Germany and that's where my family's ancestors are from. I've noticed that a lot of people start getting into soccer in college, especially if they go somewhere that has international students. Among my group of friends, acquaintances, and family members, I know a surprising number of casual fans and more than a few die hard fans. So there's hope! Give it another 20 years and I can see big things for American soccer.

My husband is of mostly Italian descent and I'm mostly Irish (with a good amount of German.) He randomly showed me the score from Italy v. Ireland the other day - even though we aren't big soccer fans, I still totally rubbed it in his face that Ireland won. 

[trisprefect]

2 minutes ago, VelociRapture said:

My husband is of mostly Italian descent and I'm mostly Irish (with a good amount of German.) He randomly showed me the score from Italy v. Ireland the other day - even though we aren't big soccer fans, I still totally rubbed it in his face that Ireland won. 

My boyfriend is Italian too -- had he been home watching the game with me I would have done the same thing!  I've succeeded in converting him over the past ten years, he's not a die hard fan but he'll watch games with me and is actually interested, especially if the US or Italy are playing.

[karen77]

1 hour ago, VelociRapture said:

Wouldn't matter regardless. He isn't playing currently. They could always watch on tv or go see a match in person, but I doubt it'd be an issue. Duggars have gone to games before (mostly American football I think) and it doesn't seem to have been an issue.

Professional Soccer (or football) isn't that popular here. Hubby and I have talked about trying to watch it on tv a bit in the future though - we like tying new things and expanding our horizons. We mostly only watch American Football and basketball when we watch sports - Professional Baseball is SO boring!

Depends on where you are! Up here in the NW, it's pretty popular. 

1 hour ago, trisprefect said:

Does Spielerfrau mean the same thing as footballer's wife? If so, that is a very funny image indeed.

US soccer (I'm talking about the MLS) is tier or two below the big ones in Europe, probably on the same level as any national league in Europe except England, France, Germany, Spain and Italy. Although we're scrappy and usually punch above our weight in international tournaments, we don't have a ton of players who could hack it in one of the top leagues. Right now the US men's team has 3 players in the Premier League and 4 in Bundesliga.

So the league that he was playing with before being let go is very much minor league, basically a step above playing for free. I can't imagine he was making more than 40k a year. So like I said in the last thread, this whole "leaving soccer because he felt called to ministry" is really more like "Oh God I lost my job and I'm not getting any more offers so I guess it's time to settle down and be a preacher."

Although there are a few more players that used to play in Europe, but now play MLS  (Dempsey for example). I don't know if he was just over playing overseas and wanted to come back home, or if his career overseas was just ending. Either way, still has the depth.

 

(We watch a lot of soccer....although I only half pay attention  GO Sounders!!)

28 minutes ago, Gobbles said:

I think Americans watching football must be like me watching the Super Bowl. I do that every year and every year I tell myself never again. I still can't figure out the rules. And somehow it looks like it is just a couple of men running into each other which makes even less sense than a couple of men running behind a ball. ;-) The many breaks in American football are so weird. Two minute play, break, two minute play, break... 

 

I'm an AMerican and I still can't figure out the rules either!!!! I don't see how a game with 4 15 minute periods can last 4 hours, it's ridiculous.

[JMO]

This has been stuck in my head since the last thread.

 

[samurai_sarah]

15 minutes ago, VelociRapture said:

(snip)

My husband is of mostly Italian descent and I'm mostly Irish (with a good amount of German.) He randomly showed me the score from Italy v. Ireland the other day - even though we aren't big soccer fans, I still totally rubbed it in his face that Ireland won. 

You want a football rivalry? We can totally start one here: Go WALES!

I personally want Wales to win the European Championship. Or Iceland.

[Bushes of Love]

15 minutes ago, karen77 said:

Spielerfrau

The idea of Jinger as a WAG is making me laugh. I just think of the show Footballer's Wives and try to imagine Jinger as Chardonnay or someone.

33 minutes ago, trisprefect said:

Chelsea is my team,

I guy I went to school with was a goalkeeper for Chelsea a couple of years ago, his name is Ross Turnbull.

I'm not normally a big fan of football, but as the Euro's are on at the moment I'm interested. None of my friends are talking about anything else and I was feeling a bit left out! I'm pleased that the smaller UK teams like Wales and Northern Ireland are in because they rarely get the chance at big tournaments. Wales have been the biggest shock, considering they are the top of group B!

Aaaaaand I think I've just alienated all the people from the US!

[Ungodly Grandma]

2 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

JB once said he tasted a beer in his youth. He said he spit it out. Cue eye roll. 

Reminds me of "I didn't inhale."

 

[devoe364]

1 hour ago, Gobbles said:

It is so weird. I try to act like a ordinary customer but I can't help being amazed by standing in "his" bakery. My Grandpa met Klinsmann while he was playing for the Stuttgarter Kickers once. (My Grandpa was an athlete as well, but in wrestling. The Olympic kind of wrestling, not that show thing on TV.)

Totally OT, but I did Olympic Freestyle Wrestling in University. SO good for you!

38 minutes ago, karen77 said:

I'm an AMerican and I still can't figure out the rules either!!!! I don't see how a game with 4 15 minute periods can last 4 hours, it's ridiculous.

They have to reset after every play. That's why. 

[LadyCrow1313]

10 minutes ago, Bushes of Love said:

Aaaaaand I think I've just alienated all the people from the US!

Not totally.  I catch it on occasion when it's on tv from time to time, & I'm always amazed w/how packed the stadiums are. And there's one other thing that I've got a question about: there seems to be a screen that borders the playing field, & it's always flashing ads/assorted nonsense. Is there a real purpose for such a thing (marketing, maybe?) or otherwise, because I see it as a major distraction for the players. Or maybe it's just  myself that's easily distracted...   

[Bushes of Love]

Just now, LadyCrow1313 said:

Not totally.  I catch it on occasion when it's on tv from time to time, & I'm always amazed w/how packed the stadiums are. And there's one other thing that I've got a question about: there seems to be a screen that borders the playing field, & it's always flashing ads/assorted nonsense. Is there a real purpose for such a thing (marketing, maybe?) or otherwise, because I see it as a major distraction for the players. Or maybe it's just  myself that's easily distracted...   

The deal with the screen...Back in the olden days (the 1990s) there was always advertisements on the walls between the seating and the pitch. Then digital advert screens became a thing and it got updated. No-one really notices them to be fair.

[mausi]

All these Chelsea fans in here. 

The Duggar J'slaves are the Fundie version of WAGs/Spielerfrauen. They are attractive, arguably the most well known of their peers, for their group they are fashionable (or at the least they aren't wearing frumpers), they have money, a television 'ministry' show, and so on.

[samurai_sarah]

6 minutes ago, LadyCrow1313 said:

Not totally.  I catch it on occasion when it's on tv from time to time, & I'm always amazed w/how packed the stadiums are. And there's one other thing that I've got a question about: there seems to be a screen that borders the playing field, & it's always flashing ads/assorted nonsense. Is there a real purpose for such a thing (marketing, maybe?) or otherwise, because I see it as a major distraction for the players. Or maybe it's just  myself that's easily distracted...   

The screens are marketing, like billboards. They also serve the additional purpose of keeping watchers off the pitch. Normally, only journalists get to stand right behind them (and other people on the playing teams, plus coaches, emergency services and so on).

Do they distract players? I personally don't think so. Football/soccer moves very fast. Whenever I play, I barely have time to notice anything but my immediate surroundings. But that's a personal impression.

[OrchidBlossom]

8 hours ago, amendgitan said:

I kind of have a good eye, I think, for ferreting out scary predator types because I interned during law school for the federal public defender (and had to sadly work on tons of child porn cases) and I really studied these guys after my boss told me he could tell that a witness at a bail hearing was a pedophile like the defendant, based on years of experience. 

I get the vibe now and then (one of the former republican presidential candidates gives off that stench strongly to me).

I think I'm also pretty good at detecting angry violent abuser types just because I've had so many family law cases against guys like that (and with so ex clients like that as well). Nothing's foolproof but I usually do pretty well. 

 I'm not getting either of those types of vibes from this dude. 

Instead, he seems like a typical masculine jock type. 

I think the issue may be that the threat to women and children that's inherent in any male in such an extreme patriarchy, especially potential "headships", is tempered somewhat in the youthful shyness or sweetness or gawky awkwardness of some of the mates of these women. But there's no tempering of the threat at all when the potential headship is a confident, wordly, fully adult man, who has athletic ability and experience associating with a variety of people. 

And the threat may feel even more ominous and untempered due to what seems to be his fully fanatical zealotry. 

This isn't goofy Ben earnestly trying to spread the gospel but managing to appear more like an awkward little boy with a runny nose. This isn't shy and gentle Derick growing out a hippie beard and naively trying to convert the "natives".  It's also not cheerful Brandon looking and acting as much like a Mormon boy scout as one can, as he marries and develops his career. 

No this guys seems fully cooked. He's a man. Not a boy. And I suspect that's why, in the contex of their scary culture, some people are getting scary vibes from him. 

I hope it's not much more than that. 

I just graduated law school! High five for (future, in my case) lawyers. However I am one of the people who gets a bad vibe off him. I've fully admitted it could be nothing, or have a harmless explanation. But I also spent time volunteering with victims of domestic violence in college and I myself volunteered for a program in law school which helps domestic violence victims get representation, so I have training and experience in recognizing and understanding domestic violence. I've also had two very close friends in abusive relationships which I witnessed from start to (thankfully) end. So I have a pretty good eye for it myself, and I am usually right as well. Interesting that we both have experience in the matter and came to different conclusions. I sincerely hope I am wrong here. 

I have some hope that maybe his personality plus his newly rediscovered religious zeal are what is causing it, or it could be some internal conflict within himself about his past or what he is preaching, or many other things. I guess only time will tell.

[LawsonBatesEgo]

15 hours ago, metheglyn said:

I can totally see that. It's one thing to join the Duggar dog and pony show as the voluntary prospective suitor. It's quite a different thing to be an unwilling in-law, both regarding filming/media coverage and the scandals.

Yeah. Like, if you want to go to your brother's wedding, you have to consent to being on the dog and pony show. I'd be PISSED if my brother put me in that position. 

[Dandruff]

JV strikes me as the sort of guy JB would LOVE...and maybe envy (a sin) a little.  Similar sort of personality, though JV seems far more polished.  I don't think we'll see him dry-humping Jinger or trying to pander to potential converts in a language he can't speak.

Anyone else wondering whether Boost Protein might become an advertiser for the show?

Bet Ben has gotten a promotion for this.  Yard boy, maybe.

[Kleine Vampirin]

1 hour ago, Bushes of Love said:

The idea of Jinger as a WAG is making me laugh. I just think of the show Footballer's Wives and try to imagine Jinger as Chardonnay or someone.

Sierra could be a Tanya Turner with those intense eye moments. I can't quite picture her clutching a fag while she plots away, but maybe a freshly dipped chocolate strawberry ... :-)

[LawsonBatesEgo]

2 hours ago, ophelia said:

Your post made me smile. Although the typical "Spielerfrau" isn't really the kind of woman I look up to, I would love for Jinger to live that life. And if only to see Boobs and Juterus heads explode.

I'm also from Germany and I think it's great that you went to Klinsmann's bakery.

I'm Australian but am half German so keep up with the German team because my Dad loves football and am now laughing at the mental image of Jinger hanging out with Götze's 'Spielerfrau': https://www.instagram.com/annkathrin_vida/?hl=de

[socalrules]

Even though J guy is a pastor, I think he would have no problem agreeing to living in Duggarvilla for at least a year or two so that they can be on tv. I don't think they will get married and suddenly move away from the spotlight. This guy has his own YouTube videos, he wants the attention. I also think Jim Bob will have no problem corralling him because he would never choose someone with an independent mind for his daughter. 

[CreationMuseumSeasonPass]

4 hours ago, ksgranola1 said:

I am a Presbyterian. We are pretty mainstream liberal Christians. We live our lives practicing the teachings of Christ. Do onto others,etc. Just recently the general assembly of our church decided it would accept gays who wish ordination. Some of the presbys got their back up & broke away from PCUSA to form their own Presbytery called the evangelical covenant. We lost our gay organist b/c of it. And to be in any way connected to evangelicals galls me to pieces.

So to answer your question, yes. MOST Presbys are pretty far fundies.

I'm a mainstream Presbyterian! Yes, my congregation in south central Iowa is pretty liberal. I was so proud of the governing Presbytery for being the first mainstream denomination to have the courage to say gay marriage is A-OK in our church! However, yes, it did cause a  few ruffles with a few of the older members. Actually, we have quite a large population of LGBT members in our congregation, including our organist who has been with the church for more than 30 decades. He played at my wedding and is one of the best musicians I have had the privilege of knowing. I grew up with him playing beautiful music every Sunday at service.