Kelly Reins, SAHD *and* TV critic!

[docmom]

20 hours ago, hoipolloi said:

 CDC says it is only  transmitted through tick bites, but some other seemingly credible sources are confirming other routes of transmission (mosquitoes, biting flies) may be implicated

Not surprisingly, CDC is right.  It is only transmitted through tick bites.  There is literally no disease out there with more web-based disinformation than Lyme.

[DomWackTroll]

8 hours ago, ladyamylynn said:

In case anybody has forgotten their dad's stance on dating...

8. SHE'S MY PRINCESS, NOT YOUR CONQUEST. 

She was conquered on the day she was born, you vile pig. 

[Marian the Librarian]

Another FB update - Kelly has finished watching the show:

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I finished it last night. I agree. Alana seemed to find an appreciation for a traditional woman's role and there was far less razing near the end. I'm not patient with that sort of thing at all. I'm impressed with how much Deanna changed. I think it was most telling when the producer came out to give her an update on her husband's condition. I think Frank's transformation was significant I'm glad he had Tim's comradery and optimism as a constant companion.

She has, apparently, survived it all - right down to the poison ivy'd penis!! 

[formergothardite]

Frank transformed? He did lose a lot of weight, but the one who seemed to really change is Deanna who started out not really being into it but at the end was enjoying the pioneer life. 

It is like she watched the show and then changed it all in her mind to fit the fundie mold. 

Edited June 9, 2016 by formergothardite

[fundiefan]

1 hour ago, formergothardite said:

Frank transformed? He did lose a lot of weight, but the one who seemed to really change is Deanna who started out not really being into it but at the end was enjoying the pioneer life. 

It is like she watched the show and then changed it all in her mind to fit the fundie mold. 

Fundies do this with everything. History, news, politics, their own religion, their own bible, movies, television shows...if it exists, fundies will twist and turn it to fit their ideals. It would be funny if it weren't so terrifying.

[smittykins]

7 hours ago, DomWackTroll said:

8. SHE'S MY PRINCESS, NOT YOUR CONQUEST. 

She was conquered on the day she was born, you vile pig. 

Or, as @mallallory succinctly put t on the Staddon courtship thread, "She's a person, not a trophy."

[refugee]

15 hours ago, DomWackTroll said:

8. SHE'S MY PRINCESS, NOT YOUR CONQUEST. 

She was conquered on the day she was born, you vile pig. 

And, yeah, locked in a high, remote tower for the res of her life, unless she can somehow find a way to escape.

[Just_Jane]

Pioneer Quest is in my amazon watch list but right now I am watching a lot of Outlander and Da Vinci's Demons while I have Starz as a subscription add on to amazon prime. Clearly my tv viewing is not very modest.

[MatthewDuggar]

How ironic I just started watching Pioneer Quest on my Kindle.  I agree that it's definitely one of the best shows of this type I have seen yet.  (anyone have any recommendation of others?)  I appreciate the fact that they found couples that truly want to and are capable of living in the period.  So many of the American PBS versions of these showed seemed to find the most unsuitable families and it pretty much ruined the "experiment".  I was bummed when the original "older" couple had to be replaced and found Tim and Deanna cringe-worthy in some respects, but after a while the dynamic was entertaining.  I have to still watch the last few episodes and I usually avoid seeking out and commenting on shows like this until I have seen the entire thing, but I was not expecting to come across it here.  My only major criticism thus far is not with the couples and the choices they made, but more with the production company.  I think they could have done a much better job with setting them up.  Aside from the shitty weather, it seems like most of their issues had to do with lack of or inappropriate materials.  Not from a sense of "cost", but more from just being given things to use vs given a choice of period items they would haven chosen themselves. 

I'll have to read everything this blogger and "critic" has to say!  LOL

 

 

[ari_belle]

On 6/8/2016 at 8:33 AM, formergothardite said:

Oh no she is NOT bashing Pioneer Quest! It is the most fucking awesome go live in the past reality television shows EVER! This show is about as real as it is going to get. If you read articles about it, while they did sit and talk to the people and ask questions about how things are going, they never had them pose or go do anything for the camera. A lot of the filming is done by the four people. 

If you haven't watched it, go do it. And yes, both couples discuss their sex lives, both women end up wandering around in pants and underwear and the older woman goes hunting, kills and butchers animals. There are also times when the men come back to get the women to help them with the hay because they found out that they couldn't do it alone. The older woman also has to make it on her own for a bit with her husband ends up in the hospital. 

The older couple at one point does violate the rules and cause problems because they really, really like the Christian Hutterite community that is near by and they keep inviting all the people to come over and help them do stuff. It ends up with a revolving door of visitors when they are supposed to be living like pioneers. 

Perhaps should have put a spoiler alert... :/ I'm in the middle of watching it

[MatthewDuggar]

On 6/8/2016 at 11:33 AM, formergothardite said:

Oh no she is NOT bashing Pioneer Quest! It is the most fucking awesome go live in the past reality television shows EVER! This show is about as real as it is going to get. If you read articles about it, while they did sit and talk to the people and ask questions about how things are going, they never had them pose or go do anything for the camera. A lot of the filming is done by the four people. 

If you haven't watched it, go do it. And yes, both couples discuss their sex lives, both women end up wandering around in pants and underwear and the older woman goes hunting, kills and butchers animals. There are also times when the men come back to get the women to help them with the hay because they found out that they couldn't do it alone. The older woman also has to make it on her own for a bit with her husband ends up in the hospital. 

The older couple at one point does violate the rules and cause problems because they really, really like the Christian Hutterite community that is near by and they keep inviting all the people to come over and help them do stuff. It ends up with a revolving door of visitors when they are supposed to be living like pioneers. 

I had never heard of Hutterite communities before this program....  Does anyone have any good recommendation of sites or rabbit holes on the net regarding people in this lifestyle?

[mango_fandango]

35 minutes ago, MatthewDuggar said:

I had never heard of Hutterite communities before this program....  Does anyone have any good recommendation of sites or rabbit holes on the net regarding people in this lifestyle?

http://www.hutterites.org

i googled and found this!

[jozina]

On 09/06/2016 at 3:04 AM, Howl said:

Kelly has Lyme Disease, which I wouldn't wish on anyone.  It can be debilitating.  Interesting that she is convinced that she caught Lyme Disease through a mosquito bite.  CDC says it is only  transmitted through tick bites, but some other seemingly credible sources are confirming other routes of transmission (mosquitoes, biting flies) may be implicated.  Go here to this Australian site on Lyme Disease and click on "Modes Other than Ticks".  They give a brief list of research articles that implicate insects as carriers.  

This also made me aware that Lyme Disease is present in other parts of the world, and not just North America. 

Lyme Disease being endemic in Australia is pretty much discounted by the medical community here, as in there only a handful of doctors in the entire country that agree it is.  And they just happen to offer expensive tests and treatments for it - what a shock!  If it walks like a ducks and quacks like a duck...  Most of the "diagnoses" are validated by these doctors by uncredentialed laboratories overseas.  Repeating them here shows no disease.

Edited June 10, 2016 by jozina

[Seahorse Wrangler]

5 hours ago, MatthewDuggar said:

How ironic I just started watching Pioneer Quest on my Kindle.  I agree that it's definitely one of the best shows of this type I have seen yet.  (anyone have any recommendation of others?)  I appreciate the fact that they found couples that truly want to and are capable of living in the period.  So many of the American PBS versions of these showed seemed to find the most unsuitable families and it pretty much ruined the "experiment".  I was bummed when the original "older" couple had to be replaced and found Tim and Deanna cringe-worthy in some respects, but after a while the dynamic was entertaining.  I have to still watch the last few episodes and I usually avoid seeking out and commenting on shows like this until I have seen the entire thing, but I was not expecting to come across it here.  My only major criticism thus far is not with the couples and the choices they made, but more with the production company.  I think they could have done a much better job with setting them up.  Aside from the shitty weather, it seems like most of their issues had to do with lack of or inappropriate materials.  Not from a sense of "cost", but more from just being given things to use vs given a choice of period items they would haven chosen themselves. 

I'll have to read everything this blogger and "critic" has to say!  LOL

 

 

Texas Ranch House..I could only watch a couple of episodes since the wife and daughters seemed to complain about anything that involved getting their hands dirty..

[refugee]

2 hours ago, jozina said:

Lyme Disease being endemic in Australia is pretty much discounted by the medical community here, as in there only a handful of doctors in the entire country that agree it is.  And they just happen to offer expensive tests and treatments for it - what a shock!  If it walks like a ducks and quacks like a duck...  Most of the "diagnoses" are validated by these doctors by uncredentialed laboratories overseas.  Repeating them here shows no disease.

The two people I know who were diagnosed with Lyme came to that diagnosis pretty much by a process of elimination. The doctors tested them for every conceivable thing, it seems like, in trying to find an explanation for their ever-worsening health. It reminds me of someone I knew with Chronic Fatigue some years back. Bone-tired all the time, waking up from a night's sleep not feeling rested... have they ever found a cause for that, and a viable treatment?

Fibromyalgia is another one -- have they ever found a cause and a viable treatment? I can control my joint pain with diet, I'm glad to say (mostly through avoiding sugar, grains, legumes and nightshades). I can't imagine being tired and achy all the time. (And that reminds me of a couple friends with Lupus... Did people always have these kinds of physical challenges, and I just wasn't aware of them before?)

[MakeitSew]

Texas Ranch House..I could only watch a couple of episodes since the wife and daughters seemed to complain about anything that involved getting their hands dirty..

I just watched that series and was totally turned off by the lack of actual meaningful work the wife and daughters did. One of the girls seemed to somewhat appreciate the experience but the mother drove me crazy! A weeks worth of unwashed dishes and clouds of flies buzzing in the filth, a great garden that could have fed them all summer gone completely to waste, the mom spending her days bitching and being hateful towards the cowboys and making stupid decorations instead of, you know, contributing to the projects success.

The cowboys were better though and some were pretty hot.

[MatthewDuggar]

Pioneer House (PBS, USA) was another clusterfuck with the families.  They had more personal baggage that they could have had a show about that itself.  Most, well maybe all, of the kids in that one should have been left at home.

1900 House, set in London, was my favorite.  

Edited June 11, 2016 by MatthewDuggar

[Seahorse Wrangler]

36 minutes ago, MatthewDuggar said:

Pioneer House (PBS, USA) was another clusterfuck with the families.  They had more personal baggage that they could have had a show about that itself.  Most, well maybe all, of the kids in that one should have been left at home.

1900 House, set in London, was my favorite.  

If you can find it, there's a series set in an Iron age fort..I can't remember the name but there's a young man who really threw himself into the whole experience..

[refugee]

My favorite was a show where the family had to live as if they were in WWII - they had to make blackout curtains, the dad built a bomb shelter in the backyard, their food was rationed...

[acheronbeach]

This TV review is a great endorsement for public schooling... where we learn how to spell "condescending."

[ChairmanMeow]

On 9 June 2016 at 1:04 AM, Howl said:

Kelly has Lyme Disease, which I wouldn't wish on anyone.  It can be debilitating.  Interesting that she is convinced that she caught Lyme Disease through a mosquito bite.  CDC says it is only  transmitted through tick bites, but some other seemingly credible sources are confirming other routes of transmission (mosquitoes, biting flies) may be implicated.  Go here to this Australian site on Lyme Disease and click on "Modes Other than Ticks".  They give a brief list of research articles that implicate insects as carriers.  

This also made me aware that Lyme Disease is present in other parts of the world, and not just North America. 

I have Lyme disease and I was infected by flea bites. Someone I know was infected after a spider bite. Anything that sucks blood can transmit the disease. Many of my Lyme friends can pinpoint how they were infected and it's not just through ticks. It's present everywhere.

Edited June 12, 2016 by ChairmanMeow
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[Jencendiary]

2 hours ago, ChairmanMeow said:

I have Lyme disease and I was infected by flea bites. Someone I know was infected after a spider bite. Anything that sucks blood can transmit the disease. Many of my Lyme friends can pinpoint how they were infected and it's not just through ticks. It's present everywhere.

Were you diagnosed by a legitimate physician in good standing with his/her state, regional, and national licensing agencies?

[ChairmanMeow]

Yes I was diagnosed by a Lyme specialist. I returned positive test results from two separate labs - one in my country and one overseas.

[ChairmanMeow]

@Jencendiary there is also the theory that Lyme can be passed back and forth during sex or even kissing but I highly doubt that...not enough evidence.

On 10 June 2016 at 9:17 PM, jozina said:

Lyme Disease being endemic in Australia is pretty much discounted by the medical community here, as in there only a handful of doctors in the entire country that agree it is.  And they just happen to offer expensive tests and treatments for it - what a shock!  If it walks like a ducks and quacks like a duck...  Most of the "diagnoses" are validated by these doctors by uncredentialed laboratories overseas.  Repeating them here shows no disease.

Actually if you were so up to date with this you would know there was a Federal Senate Inquiry into Lyme or Lyme-like illness around the country, however, it has been suspended due to the upcoming federal election. Btw I was diagnosed by a lab in Australia  and there has been the discovery of a Lyme-like illness at a University in Australia. Ticks, mites, etc, travel around the globe thanks to birds. Also overseas travel is so common, how can it be discounted that people are getting bitten overseas and bringing into the country? Would you take the risk of a mozzie biting me then biting you after? Did you know the Red Cross will not allow you to donate blood even if you have been diagnosed by these so-called "quacks"? Oh and my doctor does not charge the earth for consults. Expensive medication is due to the fact that none of it is covered by the PBS. Hell, rare cancer treatment isn't even covered by the PBS!

Also one of the overseas labs actually has a reciprical accreditation with NATA. I'm not sure of the details but I DO know their accreditation is international whereas the majority of the labs here are not.

Edited June 12, 2016 by ChairmanMeow
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[HeadshipRegent]

On June 10, 2016 at 11:31 PM, refugee said:

My favorite was a show where the family had to live as if they were in WWII - they had to make blackout curtains, the dad built a bomb shelter in the backyard, their food was rationed...

I loved that show! It's a british one, right? They also had to live in the Victorian and Edwardian eras, so interesting. 

 

Also, lmao @ SAHD and tv critic, if that's a job, I want it!