Jessa, Ben and Spurgeon Part Seven

[samurai_sarah]

Carry on from here:

 

[Maggie Mae]

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 I do have a unique name situation going on, I'm (first name) Margaret Elliott (last name). My grandmother was saddled with Florida Albertine. Apparently Florida is a French name meaning "flower." And she wondered why none of her grandkids were named after her...

Not trying to be a jerk, but Florida is Spanish for "Land of Flowers." The french word for flower is "fleur."

I knew a dentist or orthodontist named Dr Smilie or Doctor Smiley. I can't remember exactly how it was spelled. 

[WhoompThereItIs]

A boy I went to school with was named Richard Lord. In middle school we used to tease and call him Dick Lord.

There's a gymnast named Marisa Dick who competes for Trinidad and Tobago and is going to the Rio Olympics (side note: the controversy over her selection for the Olympics is pretty crazy).  The gymnastics forum I frequent filters out her last name, so posts mentioning her always come out as Marisa ****. She even has a balance beam move named after her, called - you guessed it - the "Dick".

[EmCatlyn]

59 minutes ago, Maggie Mae said:

Not trying to be a jerk, but Florida is Spanish for "Land of Flowers." The french word for flower is "fleur."

I knew a dentist or orthodontist named Dr Smilie or Doctor Smiley. I can't remember exactly how it was spelled. 

Actually in Spanish,  Florida means "flowery" or "flowered" or in some contexts, "blooming" or "in bloom."  It is an adjective, but sometimes names are. (For example, Belle which is French for beautiful and Linda which is Spanish for pretty.)

The name of the state does indeed come from Tierra Florida which literally would be "Flowering Land" but probably was closer in sense to "Land full of Flowers."   And, you are right that "Land of Flowers," is what the Florida tourist stuff often says the state name means.

The name "Florida Albertine" sounds like a Creole/Louisiana name. Albertine is French and Florida (meaning flowery) is of Spanish origin.    There are Spanish words stuck here and there in Louisiana French.  For example, "lagniappe" traces its etymology to "la ~napa" (The tilde should be over the "n" but I can't do it with this software.

Anyway, this is probably more than anybody wanted to know, but I thought it might be helpful to the OP to see that her ancestor probably wasn't named "Land of Flowers."

 

 

[PennySycamore]

There is always Florida Evans from Good Times and IIRC, Maude played by the great Ester Rolle. 

[nst]

11 hours ago, PennySycamore said:

There is always Florida Evans from Good Times and IIRC, Maude played by the great Ester Rolle. 

I loved the show Maude in reruns

 

[theinvisiblegirl]

@SassyPants, in response to your post in thread 6 about the person assisting in the home renovations also being named Ben, just don't publicly call him BenJermin!

[SassyPants]

5 hours ago, theinvisiblegirl said:

@SassyPants, in response to your post in thread 6 about the person assisting in the home renovations also being named Ben, just don't publicly call him BenJermin!

Thanks for planting that seed.

 

[MargaretElliott]

On 5/31/2016 at 9:14 PM, EmCatlyn said:

Actually in Spanish,  Florida means "flowery" or "flowered" or in some contexts, "blooming" or "in bloom."  It is an adjective, but sometimes names are. (For example, Belle which is French for beautiful and Linda which is Spanish for pretty.)

The name of the state does indeed come from Tierra Florida which literally would be "Flowering Land" but probably was closer in sense to "Land full of Flowers."   And, you are right that "Land of Flowers," is what the Florida tourist stuff often says the state name means.

The name "Florida Albertine" sounds like a Creole/Louisiana name. Albertine is French and Florida (meaning flowery) is of Spanish origin.    There are Spanish words stuck here and there in Louisiana French.  For example, "lagniappe" traces its etymology to "la ~napa" (The tilde should be over the "n" but I can't do it with this software.

Anyway, this is probably more than anybody wanted to know, but I thought it might be helpful to the OP to see that her ancestor probably wasn't named "Land of Flowers."

 

 

This is so fascinating!

As they are both romance languages, many names are used in both Spanish and French contexts- just like how the name Anne can be found in Danish, English, Latin, French, Greek, and Hebrew sources. My grandmother was Mi'kmaq and French Canadian, so I can say fairly confidently that her name was used in the French context, not the Spanish. They are both names with a lot of family history.

Bringing this back to the Duggars (and their increasingly ridiculous names), I always kind of liked Israel for a boy- it sounds kind of like the name of a farmer in the 1800s or something. Now, of course, it's been scratched off my list. But Spurgeon and Heistheway? Not even funny, guys. What the hell.

[nst]

looks like jessa is doing her annual job of smiling with Sierra and Kirsten the taco lady - showing the newest soldiers 

this is my theory - that they only can smile for photos and looks all godlike- but when they actually have a camera in front of them they can't hold a convo 

[Knight of Ni]

A guy who lived in the same dorm was named Harrison Wiener. 

[albanuadh_1]

Ben has not been his usual preachy self lately; nothing much on Twitter and Instagram. Poor Ben, wonder what is wrong, or, perhaps ... they are filming and he's been told to shut it.

[ophelia]

He has been really quite. But I imagine him like a toddler - he has a new toy (preaching in his case) plays with it for a few days/weeks and then tosses it to get something else. Maybe he is into something new. And not matter what it is, it'll be annoying AF.

[Fundie Bunny]

2 minutes ago, ophelia said:

He has been really quite. But I imagine him like a toddler - he has a new toy (preaching in his case) plays with it for a few days/weeks and then tosses it to get something else. Maybe he is into something new. And not matter what it is, it'll be annoying AF.

Fuck. He is recording a christian rap album

[nst]

i bet they are filming - because we are seeing pictures with Sierra and Kirsten and the baby play groups

Ben -  I think is still shell shocked

 

[HarleyQuinn]

On 5/31/2016 at 7:53 PM, WhoompThereItIs said:

A boy I went to school with was named Richard Lord. In middle school we used to tease and call him Dick Lord.

There's a gymnast named Marisa Dick who competes for Trinidad and Tobago and is going to the Rio Olympics (side note: the controversy over her selection for the Olympics is pretty crazy).  The gymnastics forum I frequent filters out her last name, so posts mentioning her always come out as Marisa ****. She even has a balance beam move named after her, called - you guessed it - the "Dick".

I googled this controversy and Google suggested "Marisa Dick Move" lol

[season of life]

I felt so bad about laughing when I saw the photo of the ladies with their babies. The Squish Squad consists of poorly named children. Spurgeon, Brecken, and Edyn. Edyn could've been cute if spelled correctly.

[PennySycamore]

@season of life, Groucho Marx's last wife was Eden Hartford and Herb Alpert has a daughter named Eden.  I agree that it's a good name if spelled correctly.

[myhobby]

We had a Brighton Early in middle school.  He was always in trouble, so he was constantly being paged over the PA system.  

[princessmahina]

7 hours ago, season of life said:

I felt so bad about laughing when I saw the photo of the ladies with their babies. The Squish Squad consists of poorly named children. Spurgeon, Brecken, and Edyn. Edyn could've been cute if spelled correctly.

Meh. I know someone named Brecken. And someone named Bracken. Thankfully not siblings.

[ophelia]

10 hours ago, season of life said:

I felt so bad about laughing when I saw the photo of the ladies with their babies. The Squish Squad consists of poorly named children. Spurgeon, Brecken, and Edyn. Edyn could've been cute if spelled correctly.

I really dislike Brecken. It's nearly as bad as Spurgeon, who BTW has a beautiful middle name. Why can't they just call him Elliott?? And Edyn has nice sound, but the way it's spelled somehow looks tacky to me.

16 hours ago, Fundie Bunny said:

Fuck. He is recording a christian rap album

Yep. Exactly my thought.

Why can't fundies come up with something funny for once?! Evangelical porn or something like this.

[Coy Koi]

1 hour ago, ophelia said:

I really dislike Brecken. It's nearly as bad as Spurgeon, who BTW has a beautiful middle name. Why can't they just call him Elliott?? And Edyn has nice sound, but the way it's spelled somehow looks tacky to me.

Brecken just seems like a completely neutral, generic word to me. There's nothing pleasant or unpleasant about it, it doesn't mean anything (as far as I know), and it's not an established name. So I really don't get how someone would choose that above all the other infinite possibilities as a name for their kid. Spurgeon is obviously hideous, and Edyn is just stupid for the spelling, but not unusually bad.

[samurai_sarah]

On 2.6.2016 at 2:45 AM, MargaretElliott said:

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Bringing this back to the Duggars (and their increasingly ridiculous names), I always kind of liked Israel for a boy- it sounds kind of like the name of a farmer in the 1800s or something. Now, of course, it's been scratched off my list. But Spurgeon and Heistheway? Not even funny, guys. What the hell.

Well, to be fair that's pretty 17th century Puritan. If-Jesus-Christ-Had-Not-Died-For-Thee-Thou-Hadst-Been-Damned Barebone was born in 1640, England. Probably not very surprisingly, he went by "Nicholas" in later life. Heistheway is benign in comparison. Apart from the fact that people like me keep on reading it as "Heist-away". Also, ready-made souvenirs with names on them will be difficult to find.

[devoe364]

On 5/31/2016 at 6:53 PM, WhoompThereItIs said:

A boy I went to school with was named Richard Lord. In middle school we used to tease and call him Dick Lord.

There's a gymnast named Marisa Dick who competes for Trinidad and Tobago and is going to the Rio Olympics (side note: the controversy over her selection for the Olympics is pretty crazy).  The gymnastics forum I frequent filters out her last name, so posts mentioning her always come out as Marisa ****. She even has a balance beam move named after her, called - you guessed it - the "Dick".

I love Marisa Dick - the controversy not withstanding. I still coach gymnastics, and that's hillarious that her name gets the **** treatment. 

[JesSky03]

I have a family member who named their son Beckham....after the soccer player.