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3 hours ago, polecat said:

When erect, there's not that much visible difference because the foreskin pulls back away from the glans although it can look a bit like an elephant trunk with the extra skin. There IS a noticeable difference during intercourse, however, and they definitely look different with the glans completely covered when not erect. 

True, though some men have very short foreskin and in that case the difference when erect is quite small. They do look very different depending on person just like female genetalia.

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16 hours ago, herpderp said:

On the contrary, the AAP's most recent guidelines in 2012 strengthened its support of circumcision. The official position is that the benefits do indeed outweigh the risks, but not enough that parents should be encouraged to circumcise their sons. The CDC corroborated these findings in its 2014 guidelines. 

Interesting. Thanks for linking that.  It's disappointing that they've gone back to a weaker stance. That they won't fully encourage parents to do it is telling, IMO. They've taken stronger positions on backyard trampolines for goodness sake. Ugh. Anyway! Point being, the rates have gone down substantially, so younger people in the US will see more intact penises.

Someone else said it's a bit like an appendix. No reason to cut it off if there's no problem with it. That's how I feel about it. If my son feels like his foreskin is holding him back in life later on, he's welcome to schedule surgery. ;)

Random story - a long time ago I worked at a university, and a student worker came to our office daily. She told us stories about whatever was going on in her classes or on campus. In her speech class, they had to present a controversial topic. One of her male classmates did his presentation on circumcision, from the standpoint that he was really angry that his parents chose to cut off part of his body without his consent. He was attempting to regrow his foreskin, and she said he ended his speech by jumping with his arms up in the air while yelling "circumcision!" Like Mary Catherine Gallagher yelling "superstar!" I have never been able to get that image out of my head.

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On 1/16/2016 at 8:53 AM, DarkAnts said:

Reminds me of the old Lysol adds. 

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That's horrifying! Lysol is horribly toxic.

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On 1/17/2016 at 4:49 PM, Loki said:

Ahhh, yes....but lest we forget........fairly recently doctors used to order cigarettes to deal with stress, and of course there was thalidomide, so doctors ordering use of lye in your vagina is not so bad eh?!

 

 

 

 

Aha. Now wondering if doctors ever ordered cigarettes inserted you-know-where. Therapeutically, of course.

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On 1/17/2016 at 4:21 AM, medimus said:

On the one hand this is hillariously stupid.

On the other, it makes me incredibly angry. Medicine has to be proven and tested and tried out for years and years fro very good reason (see the recent disaster in France). But any idiot can sell random 'natural' stuff to eat or drink or, apparently, stick up your vagina and they don't have to show any working at all. People get rich off of selling this kind of thing. This example seems silly and stupid, but sometimes it stops people going to actual medical proffesionals, sometimes it stops them taking actual medicine, sometimes it kills people (and not just those making the choice to not get proper help). And the bastards seliing the stuff make money off of this. It infuriates me. 

I really wish pharmaceuticals were all non profit, that would help stop some of the corruption (and I know it's hardly a perfec industry), and might stop people running off to this random 'natural' crap, because doctor's have somthing to sell (as if 'natural' products are all non profit).

My favourite quote about this is 'Do you know what they call alternative medicine that has been proven to work? Medicine'

 

Rant over.

Sigh. Yeah to the bolded. The miracle drug that has given our bipolar teen a normal life, costs $1200+ before insurance. $900+ after insurance. $500+ with a special discount card our therapist gave us, that's good through April. Even with the "huge" discount, I'm not sure how we're going to afford it, even through April.

But the alternative is unthinkable.

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Two cents a bit late, for those who can't not Google things.  Before 2 girls 1 cup was tubgirl. 

That was the day I learned never to search things online when prompted by peer pressure.  There isn't enough :brainbleach:  Just.  Ugh. Once these things have been seen, they cannot be unseen. 

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Amen. I have two Type 1 Diabetic daughters. For those not aware, people with type 1 do not produce any insulin at all. No one knows what causes it, and there is no cure. Insulin is life support, not a cure. Monthly, my children go through about 4 vials of insulin. Before insurance, those vials are about $200 a piece. After insurance, $92 per bottle. The older they get, the more insulin they will need.

Anyone questioning the need for single payer health insurance needs to join one of the many Facebook groups for type 1 diabetics looking for insulin. They cannot afford the medicine they need to stay alive. They cannot afford the technologies that it takes to keep them healthy. We are massively lucky and that we have excellent insurance, and both of my daughters have the latest in medical technologies. This means that a six year old and an eight year old leave my house each day wearing approximately $11,000 worth of medical technology. That's per kid, not combined, and doesn't include insulin, syringes, insulin pump supplies, alcohol wipes, or any of the many other supplies that it takes to keep them alive. That's just the insulin pump, and the continuous glucose monitor.

That doesn't keep people from telling me that okra soaked in water will cure diabetes or that cinnamon will do it, or that essential oils will do it. None of this is true - nothing will restart the pancreas once the body's immune system has destroyed the cells that make insulin. And yet, people try to claim that there has to be some natural alternative to insulin. Sure. It's called death.

The sad thing is that I can see women buying these little balls of toxicity, because they cannot afford the medication or surgery that it takes to treat an extremely painful disorder like endometriosis. Some people would rather believe that pharmaceutical companies are trying to kill us, then realize the insurance companies don't care about people, the pharmaceutical companies don't care about people, all the companies care about is profit. They'd prefer to believe it's personal, rather than "just business."

As much as I bang on people who use essential oils as medicine, I have a certain amount of sympathy for them, too. A lot of these people have kids with autism, diabetes, ADD, and other issues. They can't afford medications, so they feel they have to try something. The unfortunate thing is that this "something" is often dangerous unproven vitamin supplements and essential oils.

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I didn't realize people were attempting to use essential oils to treat actual medical problems. I've never had a problem with them because I always saw them being used like "cold and chest congestion? Eucalyptus and spearmint EO in your shower" ok, seems legit, that's basically Vicks. "Can't sleep? Lavender and sandalwood EO on your pillow" fair enough. Basically I thought they were the same as aromatherapy, I had no idea some hope to actually "cure" maladies with them. How sad.

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Wow, I didn't realize how great my insurance is. Co-pay for most meds is either 5 or 10€. No matter how high the price of the drug is. And that is the same  for nearly everyone in Germany.  

Does that mean if someone can not afford the meds, he or she might die? Or is the sum lower for low income patients?

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5 minutes ago, Iamhispurity said:

Wow, I didn't realize how great my insurance is. Co-pay for most meds is either 5 or 10€. No matter how high the price of the drug is. And that is the same  for nearly everyone in Germany.  

Does that mean if someone can not afford the meds, he or she might die? Or is the sum lower for low income patients?

It's estimated that 45,000 people die in the United States each year due to being unable to afford treatment.  This study was done in 2005, so the number has probably improved after the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) passed, which included an expansion of Medicaid (the state run program for people who are too poor to afford health insurance).  Still, the number is sobering.

http://www.pnhp.org/excessdeaths/health-insurance-and-mortality-in-US-adults.pdf

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Obama care is still a bit iffy when you're between jobs and such, too. My husband just took a job in a different state so we're both currently unemployed while we move and his background check gets sorted out. Presently I (healthy, no pre-existing conditions, in my late 20's) have to pay $430 a month for cobra insurance. I went online to healthcare.gov to see if I could get it for less, it said that since this year our household will have an income of greater than $65k, we don't qualify. However that income isn't now, that income is what we are expecting starting in 2-3 months after the move, background checks, new jobs, etc. presently we have $0 in income and student loans to pay off and $430 a month for insurance that I'm afraid to not have for tax penalties and should I have an accident. Also our insurance through his job won't start until 3 months after the background stuff is complete, so it will really be 6 months of us paying for no insurance with no subsidies and fairly high monthly premiums. I'm a little miffed by that. Its an awful lot of money to pay with only projected income.

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I had a really freaky dream about these last night, I dreamed I was in this testing facility for these (and they were huge in my dream, like tennis ball sized).

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5 hours ago, Iamhispurity said:

Wow, I didn't realize how great my insurance is. Co-pay for most meds is either 5 or 10€. No matter how high the price of the drug is. And that is the same  for nearly everyone in Germany.  

Does that mean if someone can not afford the meds, he or she might die? Or is the sum lower for low income patients?

I'm not sure. If our adult kid weren't living at home, she'd have to choose between paying rent (no meds = unable to function, probably unable to keep a job) and paying for meds (and living in a car, maybe?). ($1200/month is her whole income right now, working a minimum wage job without benefits. thank god she hasn't aged out of our insurance coverage quite yet. Even so, $900 a month equals our food budget for five people with multiple food allergies, three cats and a dog. Ah, for the days when we were able to live on starchy foods like macaroni and cheese, spaghetti, beans and rice, and potatoes in various forms...)

I wonder how many of the mentally ill homeless people we see in our area would be able to live "normal" lives if they had affordable meds?

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12 minutes ago, refugee said:

I wonder how many of the mentally ill homeless people we see in our area would be able to live "normal" lives if they had affordable meds

Some, but maybe not as many as you would think. From what I have seen we still have our own issues with Mental illness and homelessness. That is even with free Dr's visits and if your poor enough, disabled, a senior or a few other groups you would get some form of Disability support/Welfare that would include all the costs of your medications.

I know for a fact that there are many, probably far more than people realise who are helped by programs like these but we sadly still have our fair share of mentally ill homeless people. Often times these relate to issues of medical non-compliance or concurrent addiction issues. In Ontario if you have a serious and ongoing mental illness that prevents you from working you are able to collect ODSP which covers your medications, dental care and a basic monthly stipend.

 

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10 hours ago, Mrsaztx said:

Obama care is still a bit iffy when you're between jobs and such, too. My husband just took a job in a different state so we're both currently unemployed while we move and his background check gets sorted out. Presently I (healthy, no pre-existing conditions, in my late 20's) have to pay $430 a month for cobra insurance. I went online to healthcare.gov to see if I could get it for less, it said that since this year our household will have an income of greater than $65k, we don't qualify. However that income isn't now, that income is what we are expecting starting in 2-3 months after the move, background checks, new jobs, etc. presently we have $0 in income and student loans to pay off and $430 a month for insurance that I'm afraid to not have for tax penalties and should I have an accident. Also our insurance through his job won't start until 3 months after the background stuff is complete, so it will really be 6 months of us paying for no insurance with no subsidies and fairly high monthly premiums. I'm a little miffed by that. Its an awful lot of money to pay with only projected income.

When you do your taxes there should be a way to enter that health insurance was "considered too expensive" during those months that you don't have it. It was a form offered through my tax return website when I did the taxes today. I used taxact. 

Honestly, my biggest disappointment with Obama was that his "health care for everyone" didn't manifest as single payer insurance. I don't care if it's "socialist", I don't want my ability to get health care depend on someone's bottom line. Capitalism isn't the solution to everything. /rant

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On 1/23/2016 at 3:57 PM, Catey said:

Often times these relate to issues of medical non-compliance or concurrent addiction issues.

This, yes.  Especially the people who need to take the meds all the time, but take them until they feel fine and then tell themselves that they don't need them anymore, then the meds wear off.  I've had the unfortunate privilege of being a spectator to that one, growing up.  Or you have the people who simply don't want to take the meds for whatever reason. 

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As a Brit, I find it kind of weird that male circumcision is a thing, or at least used to be- like that plot line in the the Friends episode where Joey was, but the character he was auditioning for wasn't. My dad, also a Brit, is actually circumcised, but he was born in a British Overseas Territory (in Cyprus) and clearly infant circumcision is/was a thing over there. 

Personally, I don't really get why someone would get their baby done, but that's just me. 

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We saw our first patient in the ER last night that had put one of these things in their vagina and left it in for 5 days then could not get it out, so we made the medical student get it out. It was gross. We gave the young lady a lecture about sticking things in your vagina and leaving it there. Put her on antibiotic for 10 days and sent her on her way. 

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On 1/31/2016 at 6:02 PM, countressrascal said:

We saw our first patient in the ER last night that had put one of these things in their vagina and left it in for 5 days then could not get it out, so we made the medical student get it out. It was gross. We gave the young lady a lecture about sticking things in your vagina and leaving it there. Put her on antibiotic for 10 days and sent her on her way. 

This is why our main house rule is "don't do anything you wouldn't want to explain to the people at the ER." Don't want to have to explain to the nice ER doctor that you thought you could detox your uterus by sticking a foreign object up your vagina? Don't do it! Aside from that, I can't imagine actually having that up there for 5 days. I won't even sleep with tampons in because I get worried having them in there if I sleep 9 hours...

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On January 19, 2016 at 6:36 AM, Mrsaztx said:

 

@bea, are you saying you don't want to be a part of this? Why not? You could throw a party with all your closest friends, serve warm cheese Dips, tapioca, fondue, etc. then you'd bust out these photos of diseased vaginas and their refuse. your parties would be the talk of the town! You could get on Facebook looking for people to be your down line, and speak graphically about what you're doing. I see no downside

I'm thinking tomato bruschetta or perhaps bread sticks with a marinara dipping sauce, maybe a big bowl of cottage cheese, fried clams. . .maybe this is the product that the Xyngular shills will be pushing when the FDA shuts down their supplement business.

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On January 23, 2016 at 2:38 PM, refugee said:

I wonder how many of the mentally ill homeless people we see in our area would be able to live "normal" lives if they had affordable meds?

This ^^.  Most of them. I work just for insurance and my paycheck goes to pay for my meds ($3,000 a month after insurance). If it were not for my husband's income I would have to choose between meds and rent. I would be living under a bridge and unable to keep a job without them. 

Hugs to you and your daughter. Keep fighting the good fight with her. 

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