Jill & Jessa Special, Sunday, December 20

[Yaoichan12]

I'm at 37 likes and ums...Anna is winning with the most, followed by jinger and jessa in a tie then Derrick 

[Shadoewolf]

I'm taking notes on all my points, too many at once.

Oldest Wolf child gave up, she was laughing too hard.

[ElegantMajesticPearls]

1 minute ago, Trynn said:

Is there a better way to find buzzards recaps besides scrolling through every page of this thread.

I have not seen buzzard post a recap tonight

[cptbailey]

Omg this is so brain dead.. I can't believe I'm watching this. They shoved the "anticipated" Anna part into about one minute. The rest is just.. painful.

[EmCatlyn]

1 hour ago, Buzzard said:

If only you could.  Thats the problem with Cameron Hughes wine... everything sells out by the time you know you are in love with it! 421 has been out of stock since the summer.  

Okay, so I will rephrase.  "If I had a working drone and a case of Cameron Hughes 421, I would send the case to you."   

Had I but drones enough and wine, / the obligation would be mine/ to send you bibulous reward/ for recapitulating is quite hard.

[FaithAndReason]

This might be fun for people actually AT the party. But, wow, it's boring as hell.

 

[Trynn]

1 minute ago, Trynn said: Is there a better way to find buzzards recaps besides scrolling through every page of this thread.

I have not seen buzzard post a recap tonight

Well. That would be why I can't find it.

This show needs more Israel and less Joll and Nessa

[luv2laugh]

Jill and Derick only gone for 8 months!!! LOL

[Buzzard]

Jill and Jessa: Blabbing on (Part 2 of the Holy Trinity of Bullshit)

Alternate title: Jill and Jessa: Counting on to like, a million like, yeah... and um... jesus!

They show us a recap of last week (I mean, 10 minutes ago).  Bad Josh, Jill is stong! Jessa is pregnant! Jill and Derrick are going to DANGEROUS place with the other language....

I feel like "Its so hard to say goodbye to yesterday" should be playing in the background, but they cant afford those rights...

They pimp the show coming up, including Anna

We open with ominous musak and Anna doing her hair in the girls dorm room.  She coos at merideth as the piano bangs....

Anna: The past few months have definitely had a lot of change.  Um, all of the new about Joshua's teenage WRONG CHOICES came out (she smiles and nods) and um, my husbans resigned from his job and basicly I left DC 7 months pregnant and havent been back since.  I'm staying with Joshua's family and I'm back in the girls' room so its kind of funny.  They had 2 daughters get married and now they have a daughter in law and 4 grand kids um, so things have shifted but the girls room is still very full at the duggar home.  

ProducerL  Well, going back to the initial reports of Josh's teenage years, can you explain why you stood by him during the scandal?

Anna: Um - (looks to the side) - Yeah, um.  Swallows hard...

Screen to black

"Several months ago, a police report was released containing allegations that, as a minor, josh inappropriately touched five people."

Anna (doing her hair)  - I knew about this long before this hit the press.  Not long after Josh and I first met our family went to arkansas and visited with Joshua's family and while we were there Joshua shared with my parents his life story.  The good and the bad and the ugly, he was very detailed and very honest with my parents because in his heart, he wanted to pursue a relationship and he knew before this gets anywhere I want her parents to know who I am, what I've walked though, and the direction I'm headed in. 

When the police report was released it wasnt easy reading through it, and just kind of having to almost relive what joshua had done.  It was a shocking thing but at the same time there wasnt new information for my heart.  (Anna places merideth on one of the beds in the girls's room) and so it was just like ripping open an old wound.  (Anna dresses mer).  Things were calming down in the media when merideth was born, it was such a blessing to have a new little one and it was such a ray of sunshine of hope in the middle of a difficult situation to walk through and then the... second wave of media reports about joshua's unfaithfulness.  I was shocked and was like "who would write something like this" and so my first reaction was denial... I was really hurt that someone would think that about my husband and that we had a strong marriage.

BLACK SCREEN

"I have been the biggest hypocrite ever.  While espousing faith and family values, I have secretly over the last several years been viewing pornography on the internet and this became a secret addiction and I became unfaithful to my wife." - Josh Duggar

(Damnit, no reference to Satan's hidden fortress!)

Jessa - When news started surfacing about Josh and that he had been unfaithful to Anna we were devatstated, heartbroken, I think especially just being a wife myself my heart went out to Anna.  Its like the most difficult thing you can every walk through. 

Jill - I told Derrick (crying) I need to call Anna because I cant imagine what she feels right now and I want to cry with her and I wish I was there... ME ME ME ME ME

Anna - I think initially I was really speechless.  And I didnt know what to say, it felt like a bad dream, it didnt seem possible.  I was like, "I;m gonna wake up and this is gonna be ok" this cant be true.  But, um... (she stutters and the camera focuses on her wedding ring bling) (She looks off camera... centers...) It was definitely a hard thing, it was such a betrayal for a spouse to go through what we're walking though and, um. It was hard.  It was hard that it was such a public thing.  Not only was it a betrayal against me it was a betrayal against those that call themselves christian because here wer were as a christian couple.  Everyone was able to see us get married and vow before god to be loyal to eachother and that loyalty was broken and so, um, for my heart I was like "how could this happen?" Josh was my first love.  Josh is my one and only. I knew that my only hope was to cling to my faith if I went off of what I was feeling I would turn a mess into a disaster.  In the stun and the shock I said "My god help me know how to respond to all of this." I didnt know what to do... I prayed that god would give the help and the widom to take the next step.  

She dresses and tickles the baby WHO IS WEARING PANTS!

Jinger - Anna is amazing. She displays to each one of us what it means to have unconditional love and is walking through this better than any one of us could have ever imagined.

Littles come around Anna - she reads a book

Producer - Where is Josh now and how was it decided that he would go there?

Anna - Josh is away at a christian recover program.  It was something josh decided he would be at a place, he needed A LOT of help. It wasnt an easy choice when you have a new baby and three little ones to take care of realizing I'm gonna be alone for an extended period of time

Producer (MORE ominous musak) - So, what are your plans regarding your marriage?

Anna - Bites her lip.  Its um, When your world is shattered there are a lot of emotions that you have to walk through.  Initially it was crying and crying and then you get to the place where you cant cry any more and then you get up and get on with life and then you start crying again and I know there are those that feel I have every right to walk away from this marriage and I respect other people's views, but in my heart, when I got married, I vowed to god first, and then to joshua for better for worse till death do us part.  God (crying) has unfailing love for me, and he has loved me and forvien me of so much and I pray that through all this that I will be an extension of god's love to joshua and that I would love him and forgive him and that I will wait patiently and allow god to work in our hearts and my prayer and my heart's desire is for our marriage to be restored (smiles, bites cheek).  Wipes tear...

Music...

Anna brings the littles downstairs

Anna - It really is true that we go through difficult times it can either destroy your life or make you stronger and so I think my purpose and my desire through all of this for each member of my family, is that we will turn our hearts to god and find the grace we need and come out stronger.

NOTE - through all of this they kept showing the girl's room where she is sleeping, the "rack" of clothes etc.  She is not in a closet.

Time passes on a sunny day outside.

Joy heads to sierra's house to start prep for Jessa's shower.  Jill reminds us who sierra is. Jana says that Anna and Merideth are coming to help.  Joy carries Izzy - Jill carries a purse

Joy - I'm really amazed at the strength that god has given anna and how she's going through all this and having a good attitutde about it all and you know it hurts really bad.

Jessa - sierra is super woman..

Sierra - PREGNANT - Jessa doesnt like cake, so lets do a pumpkin table! Chocolate covered shit... 160 confirmed guests.  Game ideas - guess the amount of candy, (she has a spreadsheet)... 

Jana - Ben wants dads to make baby food... steak baby food and random concoctions.  

Jill spikes Izzy's hair.

Joy - sierra gets stuff done... 

 

[mausi]

Derrick's mother looks good, I'm glad to see it.

ETA: Jessa just said she and Jill were super close as sisters. Were they?! All these seasons prior and I thought those two were barely tolerating each other and keeping sweet.

[Freedom17]

What house were Jill and Derick staying in while in Arkansas, I don't believe I've ever seen it before.

 

[JHeathen]

They are packing shitloads of "diapers and wipers" to bring to Central America.  Because Central America needs 8+ months of your disposable TRASH.  WTF.  Use cloth diapers, DUGGARS!

[molecule]

Goodbye hugs are interesting. Jim Bob's hug for Jill seemed more sincere than Michelle's.

[JHeathen]

Just now, molecule said:

Goodbye hugs are interesting. Jim Bob's hug for Jill seemed more sincere than Michelle's.

...and Jessa's hug for Jill just had Jessa fake-smiling right at the camera.

[goldfishgoddess]

I'm ready to see Jessa start screaming in childbirth already.  This show is sooooo dull.

[molecule]

Just now, JHeathen said:

...and Jessa's hug for Jill just had Jessa fake-smiling right at the camera.

Yeah, she was definitely looking at the camera during that hug.

[luv2laugh]

Fortify probiotic Firehouse Subs advertised.

[FakePigtails]

Next commercial: TLC stuff, Norm of the North trailer, a steel building company (myfuturebuilding.com), Endless Pools

[molecule]

TLC promos
Norm of the North movie promo
Attorneys that deal with injuries
TLC promos
 

[0KidsAndHappy]

TLC ad, TLC ad, Norm of the North (movie), TLC ad (cut off), Firehouse Subs, Mucinex, TLC ad.

[goldfishgoddess]

Miss Cathy had to come because Derick is losing too much weight on Jill's cooking.

[JHeathen]

UGH on Jill always kissing him mid-mouth-open-chew.  UUUUGGHH

[EmCatlyn]

57 minutes ago, mausi said:

I agree with the disclaimer you added to the end, and it's true, we don't know what is really going on in NWA or amongst the Duggars and Kellars. Still, the thing that separates Anna, in my mind, from other fundies is she the support she received from family. She has three siblings who have left the cult. Her brother was very vocal in expressing not only his emotional support for her in this situation, but also in providing her with physical support, as in a place to live, if she left. I seem to recall her younger sister saying something supportive of her on Facbook. She's at least faux-friends with Amy, who has been quite vocal about Josh. 

Yes, three of her siblings are outside the cult.  And their behavior rocked their family, shamed their father, shocked and grieved Anna who was. always. a. good. Christian. woman.  She probably prayed for them.  She doesn't want to be among the black sheep.  She was always a white sheep.

Sometimes it is harder to rebel when your identity is wrapped up in having differentiated yourself from the rebels.

[Screamapillar]

I would be so embarrassed if I was 8 months pregnant and my Baby Daddy was wearing his hat sideways. But, from a Dugggar's point of view......at least he loves Jesus! 

[lascuba]

Ok, so clearly hair is about 80% of what's wrong with Derrick's face. 

Wait a godamned minute. That clip with Jill wasting he tutor's time with Israel happened when Cathy was still there?