Josh and Anna Renew Vows

[Mela99]

I think there's some truth to this. JB and Smugs are deluded enough to think some new diamonds and a pretty frilly dress are enough to sway any woman's attention from whatever her husband was doing. 

It's an asinine move, and the height of egotism. "I know I screwed up and you probably hate me, but here's a GREAT consolation prize - MORE ME!!" 

[JenniferJuniper]

Josh is in rehab.  No, he's not.  Yes, he is!  He wants a baby.  She wants a divorce.  No, she doesn't!  Jim Bob gave Anna a house.  She doesn't want it.  But she's living in it.  No, she's in Florida with her mom and the baby. No, wait, she's in Florida with all the kids.  She never went to Florida!  She was bribed by Jim Bob with a new house and she's living in it.   No way, she's living in the TTH with the Duggarlings for M-Kid playmates and getting all the support she needs from the remaining J-Slaves, it's clear from all the photos!  Josh never went to rehab, but he's been released from rehab now and he and Anna are renewing their vows.  But she wants a divorce....

[Kittikatz]

Indeed they did. In Hawaai. 

This is just my experience, so far from scientific, but in my life I know seven couples who did the whole vow renewal thing. Six were separated or divorced within two years of their ceremony and the seventh seems as miserable as ever. 

For some people a vow renewal may be a genuine, heartfelt and joyous celebration. But, it seems like a certain subset of people who are unhappy in their marriage think they can magically fix their problems with a second wedding. Probably the same who don't want to work and communicate through their problems. It wouldn't surprise me if Josh and Anna fell into the latter category, and if they do choose to go this route, I'd expect the same outcome as the 6/7.

I hope that Josh and Anna divorce. It seems like their whole marriage was based on a series of lies, and that Josh has major issues to work through before he can even begin to know what he wants out of life or even who he truly is. Anna deserves better.

[Season of life...]

Ok thinking about this again.  Let them renew their vows under one condition.  The wedding party is the same as their original wedding, including the Keller siblings that have since left ATI.  Then have the Keller siblings (Suze, Daniel, Rebecca) 'speak now' when asked by the preacher and convince their sister to wake up and do what's best for her and the kids.  

Josh should also be forced to revisit the 'Loyalty Song'. Sing it again Josh, this time with feeling!

[foreign fundie]

It is not the vows that need renewal. Nothing wrong with those vows in the first place. It is the people making them that need to be renewed. 

Vows ain't magic. The energy used on second ceremonies had better be used on serious counselling and ongoing accountability.

It is like signing a contract for a job. If you do a bad job, signing the contract again won't help you.

[JenniferJuniper]

Josh should also be forced to revisit the 'Loyalty Song'. Sing it again Josh, this time with feeling!

Or be forced to sing the truth:

"With my prostitute stays after each hard work day

I chose my own way

My commitment's not true.

Yes, I was unfaithful to you"

 

 

 

[Bad Wolf]

I wonder if Josh ever intended to be faithful.

[Imagine20]

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[PartriarchydefyinValkarie]

Or be forced to sing the truth:

"With my prostitute stays after each hard work day

I chose my own way

My commitment's not true.

Yes, I was unfaithful to you"

 

 

 

[nastyhobbitses]

This is just my experience, so far from scientific, but in my life I know seven couples who did the whole vow renewal thing. Six were separated or divorced within two years of their ceremony and the seventh seems as miserable as ever. 

For some people a vow renewal may be a genuine, heartfelt and joyous celebration. But, it seems like a certain subset of people who are unhappy in their marriage think they can magically fix their problems with a second wedding. Probably the same who don't want to work and communicate through their problems. It wouldn't surprise me if Josh and Anna fell into the latter category, and if they do choose to go this route, I'd expect the same outcome as the 6/7.

I hope that Josh and Anna divorce. It seems like their whole marriage was based on a series of lies, and that Josh has major issues to work through before he can even begin to know what he wants out of life or even who he truly is. Anna deserves better.

Yeah, my parents renewed their vows on their tenth anniversary in the cheesiest Las Vegas Elvis-officiated wedding they could muster, since they had a nice traditional wedding but sort of always wanted a ridiculous Elvis wedding in Vegas. So they did it. They're still blissfully happy together 15 years later. But I think the difference is that they were doing it to celebrate a milestone and have some fun, whereas a lot of vow renewals seem to be as you described it: desperate attempts to save an unsalvageable (or salvageable if they'd actually work out their problems) marriage. I think a lot of it has to do with our culture putting so much emphasis on weddings and little on marriage. And in Josh and Anna's case, a belief that the responsibility of marriage will magically fix a person's deep-seated character flaws.

Get a divorce, Josh and Anna. End this sham of a marriage.

[Jennifer Hart]

The gospel group MaryMary has a reality show and one of their husbands cheated throughout the marriage and slept with her friends and employees.  She forgave him, they had a marriage renewal ceremony on TV and now they are going to churches sharing their testimony.  I wouldn't be surprised if this happened with Josh and Anna.  

[JuyuShoga]

From what I've seen, renewing your vows is the kiss of death for relationships. Everyone who did it (that I know or know of) got divorced or someone died within 4 years. :/ 

I thought TLC said that they'd never include Josh in any specials or revivals. 

Oh no! While I don't care about the rest of them, Jen Arnold and Bill Klein of the The Little Couple renewed their vows too (and on television) - so I hope they are exempt. 

I guess their reasons were better though - it was more to celebrate her being cancer free and the children settling into the family than to patch up cracks in their relationship. 

 

[DuggarsTheEndIsNear]

Josh is in rehab.  No, he's not.  Yes, he is!  He wants a baby.  She wants a divorce.  No, she doesn't!  Jim Bob gave Anna a house.  She doesn't want it.  But she's living in it.  No, she's in Florida with her mom and the baby. No, wait, she's in Florida with all the kids.  She never went to Florida!  She was bribed by Jim Bob with a new house and she's living in it.   No way, she's living in the TTH with the Duggarlings for M-Kid playmates and getting all the support she needs from the remaining J-Slaves, it's clear from all the photos!  Josh never went to rehab, but he's been released from rehab now and he and Anna are renewing their vows.  But she wants a divorce....

Who knew that all the Duggars needed to be treated like a-list celebrities was a series of sex scandals?

This is just my experience, so far from scientific, but in my life I know seven couples who did the whole vow renewal thing. Six were separated or divorced within two years of their ceremony and the seventh seems as miserable as ever. 

For some people a vow renewal may be a genuine, heartfelt and joyous celebration. But, it seems like a certain subset of people who are unhappy in their marriage think they can magically fix their problems with a second wedding. Probably the same who don't want to work and communicate through their problems. It wouldn't surprise me if Josh and Anna fell into the latter category, and if they do choose to go this route, I'd expect the same outcome as the 6/7.

I hope that Josh and Anna divorce. It seems like their whole marriage was based on a series of lies, and that Josh has major issues to work through before he can even begin to know what he wants out of life or even who he truly is. Anna deserves better.

Anna deserves better, for sure, but I don't know if she sees it that way. Beyond the overwhelmingly sick brainwashing she's received as part of her religion, she's probably also formed a codependent lifestyle win Josh because that's what is expected and he's the kind of person who would facilitate it. She may fully believe that her own actions and failings created this problem, and may take him back without question if asked to (regardless of how many people in her life try to "wake her up" to reality).

It is not the vows that need renewal. Nothing wrong with those vows in the first place. It is the people making them that need to be renewed. 

Vows ain't magic. The energy used on second ceremonies had better be used on serious counselling and ongoing accountability.

It is like signing a contract for a job. If you do a bad job, signing the contract again won't help you.

I would argue that there were a lot of things wrong with their vows -- they were IBLP approved vows.

I wonder if Josh ever intended to be faithful.

I would say yes. I think he, like the rest of his family, saw marriage as the answer to his issues. I think he thought it would fix him and keep him from continuing to screw up. I don't think he imagined it wouldn't work, that his issues would exist despite being in a completely Gothard approved marriage. 

Oh no! While I don't care about the rest of them, Jen Arnold and Bill Klein of the The Little Couple renewed their vows too (and on television) - so I hope they are exempt. 

I guess their reasons were better though - it was more to celebrate her being cancer free and the children settling into the family than to patch up cracks in their relationship. 

 

My grandparents renewed their vows in celebration of their 50th anniversary. They were completely and utterly in love with each other and the family they had created together. 4 years later, my grandfather was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer and died in 4 months. They were the first people I knew to renew their vows. :(

[Jana814]

I wonder if Josh ever intended to be faithful.

I'm not sure.  I hope he was, I really would love to know what went through his head to cheat on his wife. & thinks it was ok. 

[Lamoria]

Josh should also be forced to revisit the 'Loyalty Song'. Sing it again Josh, this time with feeling!

This was legit the first thing I thought of when I read this thread. IF (and I agree with @Jessa's Feet) they did a form of renewal of vows after he comes out of hiding or his six month call of duty binge, could you imagine sitting through him singing this again? If I was a guest in attendance, I would probably get physically sick.

ugh and now I'm imaging Anna with that look she gets when hes singing to her the second time

[Gimme a Free RV]

Didn't Jon and Kate renew their vows shortly before their divorce? 

 

You beat me to it!

[Drala]

The gospel group MaryMary has a reality show and one of their husbands cheated throughout the marriage and slept with her friends and employees.  She forgave him, they had a marriage renewal ceremony on TV and now they are going to churches sharing their testimony.  I wouldn't be surprised if this happened with Josh and Anna.  

Gah!  I'd rather see a sermon, than hear one.  It's much harder to be a living amends and continually work on your character defects than go around talking about how you've seen the light and changed.  This idea of Josh and Anna renewing their vows makes me sick.  I agree with @foreign fundie -- it's not the vows that need renewal.  Josh broke the terms of his contract with Anna and his faith community.  Publicly saying "I'm sorry, I've changed" and renewing promises is extremely superficial, which is how the Duggars seem to live--by appearances.  

[Gimme a Free RV]

Years ago I was invited to a vow renewal at the Duggars' house after the husband had committed a fairly major trust violation. The couple is still together so I guess it worked in their case.

I doubt this is any more than a rumor but I do think a vow renewal is probably coming for Josh and Anna since we know they're unlikely to divorce. I kind of doubt it's something they'll publicize, though.

Don'tcha know, though, this would be another opportunity for the Dillards to jump aboard a plane and head back to the homestead.

[Mela99]

Or he'll take a page from good ol' Kirky Cameron and do that Love Dare thing, which will automatically fix it!

[AmazonGrace]

I say go for it... it'd be a golden opportunity for the relatives and all the pastors they know to obliquely cast blame for the husband's assholery on the long-suffering woman's frigidity, and thou shalt never waste a golden opportunity to do just that.

[MoonFace]

Really????

http://getreallol.com/josh-and-anna-duggar-renew-wedding-vows/

 

 

 

 

Ok, someone (her brother!) needs to get Anna in some kind of rehab program!    PLEASE!   

[Catey]

What would Anna have to renew, she never broke the vows she took in the 1st place.

IF this were to happen this would be all Josh, when you make a perfect shot in Golf there is no need for a Mulligan (do-over) since you got it right the 1st time.

She took her vows and kept her vows, no need to re-do.

So if they were doing this would it include a gathering along with a gift grab? Sounds oh so Duggar..

[JMO]

I wonder if Josh ever intended to be faithful.

I think he really did.  Then reality hit and he had a couple of small kids and the possibility of going to a big city out from under the thumb of his parents.  Like a teen allowed to drink tequila for the first time he dove head first into the pool of porn.  You spend your whole life bottling up urges that you are told are evil and then have unfettered access?  It's going to be a $hit show. 

[nst]

I really hope this is not true because it would be vulgar and not just a disgusting thing to witness if anyone would have the stomach to witness it - but then tequila would suffice - but this I could never watch 

i don't know /care to know how Anna is thinking but just imagine the stomach aches she has 

[JMO]

And to provide a happy anecdote to the divorce/death anecdata, my parents renewed their vows for their 40th anniversary back in 1998.  They are still happily married and well.