If Your Wife Hates Sex, Don't Look At Her Face

[Terrie]

It almost doesn't matter if its real or not. The simple possibility that it could be is disturbing enough.

[Evangeline]

Somewhere Ken Alexander is mentally composing a guest post touting this "godly" man's advice for dealing with a difficult wife.  Wait for it...

http://biblicalgenderroles.com/2015/05/23/8-steps-to-confront-your-wifes-sexual-refusal/

If this article was a Wall of Text, instead of nicely edited bullet points, I'd swear it WAS Ken. Note the part about refusing to buy new appliances.

[jerkit]

People keep saying that it's fake, but I'm not convinced. He's got quite the backlog of posts and he's very entrenched in the manosphere- commenting on all the big names. I guess that doesn't mean everything (see: RR) but I don't know. It sounds so very much like Boobert that it makes me think he's really the shit pig he claims to be. 

[Jersey girl]

I think even if the writer is fake, the sentiments aren't. I've heard shit like this from barely fundies. 

[EmCatlyn]

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Biblical Gender Roles Blog

Author: Imrlgoddess » Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:42 am

A Pagan friend of mine stumbled across this blog the other day, the post she found was on Disciplining the Wife, later she referenced the "Frustrated Feminist Wife".
link: biblicalgenderroles.com/2015/05/31/the-frustrated-feminist-wife/

I couldn't resist adding a comment, last I saw it was "awaiting moderation". I'm fairly certain he will not post it, as I made reference to a BDSM relationship and compared it to the dom/sub relationship he was describing.

For those interested this was my response:
sndivorcee69.tumblr.com/post/131470939452/the-blog

I'm sure a submissive role can be rewarding for some, it must work somewhere because it's done the world over. But I will always take issue with someone simplifying a woman's role in a stay at home situation...she's not a paid prostitute who cooks and cleans...she's a busy mom with needs of her own.

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Re: Biblical Gender Roles Blog

Author: laPapessaGiovanna » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:13 am

Some time ago someone linked to it in Lori's thread and I fell in the rabbit hole. I can't stand that man, he is extremely ambiguous and only apparently logical in his ramblings. For example he claims that he doesn't advocate marital rape but the wife has to be always ready for her husband, he seems completely unable to see the contradiction. I wanted to snark about it on regular FJ but I had to stop reading there when I read him saying that non-physical dv nearly never happens and, if it happens, well in the Bible there's nothing against it, or something like that. I couldn't stand his bs anymore. I am glad you took the trouble to answer to his bs because I didn't have the stomach.

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Re: Biblical Gender Roles Blog

Author: PregnantPornStar » Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:27 pm

laPapessaGiovanna wrote:Some time ago someone linked to it in Lori's thread and I fell in the rabbit hole. I can't stand that man, he is extremely ambiguous and only apparently logical in his ramblings. For example he claims that he doesn't advocate marital rape but the wife has to be always ready for her husband, he seems completely unable to see the contradiction. I wanted to snark about it on regular FJ but I had to stop reading there when I read him saying that non-physical dv nearly never happens and, if it happens, well in the Bible there's nothing against it, or something like that. I couldn't stand his bs anymore. I am glad you took the trouble to answer to his bs because I didn't have the stomach.

Yeah, the blog is one that really makes me want to leave planet earth. A friend shared it on FB a few months back. Anything that even suggests someone is required to be "submissive" makes me feel really gross.

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Sorry if I overstepped, but I transferred this topic over from the Shelter because I thought the subject presents a rich mine of awfulness to be shared among us.  I have read several topics on his bog, but my mind is too traumatized to really address them right now.  I think the best, though, is the current topic "How a husband can enjoy sex that is grudgingly given by his wife"

 

And, the answer is....

The secret of enjoying grudgingly given sex from your wife

Focus on your eyes on her body, not her face. Focus on the visual pleasure you receive from looking at her body and physical pleasure you receive from being inside your wife.

I know you love your wife, most of us as men love our wives. You want to connect with her physically AND emotionally during sex. But your wife is the one refusing to connect with you emotionally, so you have to concentrate 100% on the physical side.

For what it's worth, the formatting of what was moved over from the Shelter is all over the page and unreadable.

[princessmahina]

You know what should be required reading for these fundie guys on their wedding night? One of those Cosmo sex books. Or just an issue of Cosmo period. They're all about having fun and making your partner like it. 

The more I think about this, the more confused I am. They say men are supposed to love their wives like Christ loves the Church, right? And that wives are supposed to submit to their husbands as humans do to God? But we (humans) enter into religion willingly. Jesus doesn't force us to be there. He doesn't demand that we do things we don't want to do, or that are potentially painful, harmful, or humiliating. People that say "no" to Christianity (or religion in general) usually seem to lead perfectly normal, happy lives, because there's not typically force involved. This allegory, with fundie logic, just isn't working for me. 

[CherylV]

I lived this. Got married at 19, yes a virgin, to a guy who believed I owed it to him no matter when with him doing nothing to help it work for me. Sex was hell, horrifically painful and I was basically raped over and over in the marriage. I went to a doctor to try and find out what was wrong with me, nothing.   He left me after a year ( and thank God no kids) because *I* was so bad at sex. It messed me up. I feel sorry for women stuck in those marriages and I am glad I am out. (Glad to be out of the physically violent one I got into next too) husband 3 here and he's a keeper! Nothing wrong with me sexually either but it took years to get over the damage.  Yes, I am the black sheep with 2 divorces. Tried to do things "right"and ended up in hellish situations. And there is so much wrong with that attitude. 

[upkacrane]

Talk of blatant reification!!!!! Good grief! How is this Christ-like love for the wife??????????? That IS rape. When you're treating a woman like you are relieving yourself on the toilet, that's physical rape, whether there is violence involved or not (using patriarchal rhetoric to manipulate and guilt-trip people into letting you abuse them is an act of violence in itself). But when you still claim you love that person? That's emotional rape of the worst kind! I am not going to say that the former is better or worse than the latter, but a combination of the two is just AAAAARGH!!!!!!

Corr, the hypocrisy, I just can't...call a spade, a spade and a slave, a slave, 'cause that's what your wife is.

[JillsFlowerHeadband]

 

I read this thread title and thought "Eww!" 

Then I had a momentarily thrill when I thought maybe Cabinetman had returned to the interwebs to spew his lunacy once again. 

Yeah, sounds like something Boobert would have written 

[JMO]

Anyone else see his other blog entry, "You don't pay for the milk when you own the cow,".  Wow.  What a man.  I feel so turned on right now. 

[EmmieJ]

Larry Solomon seems to go to the same school of thought as Cabinetman, Ken and Michael Pearl.  

If only they had just found a nice blow up doll or living doll, their would be 4 women with better lives. 

Edited to add.  Larry Solomon is a pen name. He could well be Cabinet man or Ken..... 

ONe thing that is sure, if your wife hates sex, you are likely a crappy lover and I'm amazed you'd spread the news to the world.   Bu that is just me. 

To the bolded - yes.  I am amazed that any man would willingly announce to the world that he is a crappy lover.  I have been fortunate that the biggest turn on for my past lovers was turning me on; getting an excited response from me.  I've also been fortunate that I was able to pick and choose my lovers, and didn't have to settle for some jackhole who treated me like a piece of property. 

[JMO]

I wonder if this is cabinetman?

[Imrlgoddess]

Thanks for carrying it over @Deist woman

I read through this cats blog quite a bit after reading this first post. He's a Darwin Award winner for sure. Each entry turned my stomach & just flat out pissed me off.

 

Edit:  as expected, he did Not include or answer my reponse. He did, however, include a man's unfavorable response & answered it.... At length. A dame can't even get a nod for defending the tired that comes with motherhood. 

[47of74]

 

in other words hump away like a horny dog and screw her she does not need to feel good. quality fundy sex right there. wonder if this is how jimbob does it?

Trying very, very hard not to let those mental images get started in my head.

[doggie]

Trying very, very hard not to let those mental images get started in my head.

sorry about that. really you need to spend time in the prayer closet. 

[Chubbi]

What a piece of work.

"Feminism says: compete with him. God says: complete him."

I just...no? Feminism literally doesn't say that? But like? Complete him?

I'm not some freaking last-puzzle-piece-needed-to-finish-a-puzzle.

He divulged that he has a twelve year old daughter and I feel so, so sorry for her.

[EmiGirl]

I'm assuming that the idea that maybe some foreplay and making sex fun for the woman would make her want to come back for more never occurred to these idiots.

[Toothfairy]

How can any man not think about bringing his wife pleasure? Not pain

[jerkit]

I am now convinced this guy is a troll. He announced he would be on a Fox News program and then said "something got messed up and they never called me."

yeah, I'm sure that totally happened *eye roll*

[molecule]

I wish I were seeing his fakery written about in more than just the Unsettled Christianity article (and a couple places that use that as a source). I am actually in marriage ministry myself in a small way, and I've dealt with several people desperately believing what the guy is saying. It's sad, and I want him to be gone.

[molecule]

I am listening to the radio program (apparently he was confused and it was scheduled for tonight and not last night). He already defended anti-Semitic views, and now he is saying that wives need to have a reverence and fear for their husbands: "women need to submit to their husbands in everything." And everything is because bible. And he's wrong, wrong, wrong.

[jerkit]

I listened to it. It was very FoxNews in terms of people just yelling and talking over each other. It was hard to listen to, just from an "understand what anyone is saying" perspective.

I've become a wee bit obsessed with this guy in the past couple of weeks.

[Buzzard]

New post up - teaching women to LEARN THEIR PLACE

http://biblicalgenderroles.com/2016/02/21/how-to-help-women-learn-their-place/

Yup, dont be a whore, dress like a woman, "ravish" your man, be meek... 

This shit is crazy.

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She sees her husband as her master and not her equal partner

“5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:

6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.” – I Peter 3:5-6 (KJV)

I'm SO (not) glad that this is a lesson for an actual child. 

[happy atheist]

This guy can eat a bowl of dicks.

[violynn]

Words escape me...I just...wtf!

What HA said.