Jump to content
IGNORED

16 years ago, a doctor published a study (Wakefield/Autism)


from the bible belt
 Share

Recommended Posts

This! My nephew is autistic. I can't imagine life without him. Nobody in the family or his doctor believes vaccines caused autism.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well, I knew it - because I'm old enough to remember when the study was refuted, and we had a subscription to the New England Journal of Medicine when they published the Danish study in 2002, and because my cousin was verbally attacked in her La Leche League group by a woman who insisted that she caused her daughter to become autistic by vaccinating her, and I saw that this cousin's next child wasn't vaccinated but also ended up with autism.

We don't ALL know it, though, because far too many people still believe this myth. They can hear a doctor tell them that vaccines are safe, but it doesn't change the panic online or the emotional pleas. Ben Carson can calmly explain that numerous studies have failed to show any link whatsoever between autism and vaccines, but that doesn't stop Trump from yelling about all the poor babies developing autism in the next second. Otherwise intelligent people can brag that they question things and distrust the financial interest of the pharmaceutical industry - but have a total blind spot for the fact that Wakefield never declared a conflict of interest with personal injury lawyers who were paying him, and ignore that Dr. Mercola is making a ton of money off his website and unproven products.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

yes but people still believe aluminum causes Alzheimer. people sometimes choose to be ignorant.

Someone once tried to "prove" this to me by describing a study where they had a dying man inhale gold dust, and then, after he died, they found gold in his brain. Now, how that means that putting aluminum on my armpits (in deodorants) will do anything, I have no clue.

It's the same with vaccine fears. They'll point out the aluminum content in vaccines it higher than the levels found to be harmful in IV solutions. Except, of course, vaccines aren't given by IV. Saying this is the same is like saying drinking a glass of water is dangerous, because it's enough to drown you if you inhale it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

When celebrities like Jenny McCarthy jumped on the Wakefield train, you knew it was a lost cause. Even after he was proven wrong!!!!! There are people who still choose to believe his fake reasearch. Which horrifies me. The level of ignorance.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Not only measles the whole mmr span, and there have been outbreaks in Germany and the UK. it is terrible what damage you can do by publishing this bs.

Ironically, fetal Rubella exposure is a known cause of autism.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

When celebrities like Jenny McCarthy jumped on the Wakefield train, you knew it was a lost cause. Even after he was proven wrong!!!!! There are people who still choose to believe his fake reasearch. Which horrifies me. The level of ignorance.

Fuck Jenny McCarthy. Fuck her for encouraging this, and fuck her for using her child to push her own stupid agenda...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

We just covered this paper in the class I teach. It has some fairly obvious issues, but probably passed peer review since Wakefield was a reasonably well known guy with a specialty in treating gastro and immune system problems like transplant rejection.

Amusingly, he even admits in the paper that he hadn't proven a link. Didn't act the same way at all the press conferences though.

I had my students try to design a study that would be better- most of them were able to fix the glaring flaws even as first year non-science majors.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

I have autism (aspergers syndrome) and the psychologist and psychiatrist I've been to theorise that it was a result of some brain damage I received when I was 2 (pot plants sitting on stands and 2 year olds that like to climb dont mix).

Not once have I been told that it could of occurred when I received vaccinations.

Plus my dad has no immune system (due to immune suppressants he takes to avoid his body attacking itself) and a bad case of the flu could kill him, lead along any sort of disease that's easily vaccinated against. Parents may think its their right not to vaccinate and it is but my family shouldn't have to be quarantined because of their irresponsible decision.

Its beyond just children, its about families and the greater public.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have autism (aspergers syndrome) and the psychologist and psychiatrist I've been to theorise that it was a result of some brain damage I received when I was 2 (pot plants sitting on stands and 2 year olds that like to climb dont mix).

Not once have I been told that it could of occurred when I received vaccinations.

Plus my dad has no immune system (due to immune suppressants he takes to avoid his body attacking itself) and a bad case of the flu could kill him, lead along any sort of disease that's easily vaccinated against. Parents may think its their right not to vaccinate and it is but my family shouldn't have to be quarantined because of their irresponsible decision.

Its beyond just children, its about families and the greater public.

Hmmm. That's interesting, because what I heard is that Autism is actually linked to genetics/conditions in the womb, and that Aspergers and other "higher functioning" manifestations of it are simply very skewed aptitudes. I've never heard of it being linked to brain damage.

But I agree with everything else.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share



  • Recent Status Updates

    • feministxtian

      feministxtian

      Last day of vacation tomorrow. All hell breaks loose again Tuesday. I figure I'll sleep somewhere around spring break, if I'm lucky. If not, it'll be the end of May. Not sure what this summer will hold for school and teaching...guess I'll find out! 
       
      · 0 replies
    • PumaLover

      PumaLover

      Today I took my daughter and her best friend to San Francisco and the highlight of our trip was meeting a leash-trained cat named Dotty Parton on the city bus. It was an amazing day!
      · 0 replies
    • yeahthatsme74

      yeahthatsme74

      If you're in the massive winter storm in the eastern US, stay safe! We're cuddled up watching our expected 12-15 inches of snow fall. ❄️ ❄️❄️😳
      · 0 replies
    • AuntCloud

      AuntCloud

      Book recommendation: Mary Jane, by Jessica Anya Blau. An awesome coming-of-age story of a teen who grew up in an uptight, ultra conservative Christian family discovering freedom and joy when working as a nanny for a free-spirited family. Best of all? Mary Jane’s last name is Dillard. 
      · 0 replies
    • 47of74

      47of74

      Yogurt!
       
      · 0 replies
    • 47of74

      47of74

      And now it's Okona time on TNG!!!
       
      · 2 replies
    • Chocolate Lover

      Chocolate Lover

      Thanks to the menopause, I'm a sleep deprived hag.  Night sweats can do one!  Am waiting for a consultation with the GP for some HRT.
      · 10 replies
    • mango_fandango

      mango_fandango

      I just got a Christmas card in the post from my grandparents. They’re not the forgetful type, so Royal Mail must be really fucked right now.
      · 1 reply
    • feministxtian

      feministxtian

      I hate writing syllabi. Have to have the whole semester done by class time Tuesday (previous teacher did not write a syllabus). Also have to have their research paper assignment written up too. That'll be due around week 14 so I have time to read/grade them. Also have to refresh my own skills in a few areas. Oh well, at least they're paying me quite well for this. 
      · 1 reply
    • 47of74

      47of74

      And now it's Okona time on TNG!!!
       

      · 0 replies
  • Recent Blog Entries

×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.