VF product snarking thread

[AnnoDomini]

Going through the VF catalog, I keep finding 'gems' of wtf-ness, such as this one:

http://www.visionforum.com/browse/product/seven-bible-truths-violated-by-christian-dating/?search=purity&sortby=0 which speaks of a father taking his daughter 'on her first date'. Ummm.... what? I also found a silver locket which in their description, always symbolized 'a very special relationship between two people'--and yet it's supposed to be a 'purity locket' from father to daughter. Ewww. I'm not the only one who noticed that weirdness either--just check the reviews.

[edited to add] ....Aaaaaand there's no corresponding purity ring for sons.

[twin2]

From the beautiful girlhood collection, its a book for Bible study, but the title is very snark worthy (and disturbing):

With the Master On Our Knees

http://www.visionforum.com/browse/produ ... s/?cid=447

[gustava]

From the beautiful girlhood collection, its a book for Bible study, but the title is very snark worthy (and disturbing):

With the Master On Our Knees

http://www.visionforum.com/browse/produ ... s/?cid=447

Perhaps it wondered over from an S&M thread. Should we send it back?

[AnnoDomini]

Ergh, yeah, sounds like a D/s relationship right there in the title.

http://www.visionforum.com/browse/product/beading-answer-book/?search=david+and+karen+mains&sortby=0&page=2

I found this, however. Right up my alley. Beats crocheting.

I couldn't find the Kingdom books by David and Karen Mains. My parents got me those (Tales of the Kingdom, Tales of the Resistance, Tales of the Restoration) and I loved and still love them. I thought they were put out by VF but couldn't find them on the site.

[prairiemuffin]

With the Master On Our Knees

http://www.visionforum.com/browse/produ ... s/?cid=447

It goes with the bullwhip:

http://www.visionforum.com/browse/produ ... earch=whip

[Deleted12]

There is SOOOOOOO much D/s subtext to everything they do.

I mean, Peter knew that Kelly was the one when she rolled under the fence. Think about it: She was willing to humiliate herself in front of a potential suitor, and that got all of Peter's juices flowing.

[NurseNell]

Ergh, yeah, sounds like a D/s relationship right there in the title.

http://www.visionforum.com/browse/product/beading-answer-book/?search=david+and+karen+mains&sortby=0&page=2

I found this, however. Right up my alley. Beats crocheting.

My niece, who is Jewish(a real one, not a Lina one) did a beaded project of Salome carrying John the Baptist's head on a platter. She used 10,000 beads and it took a year to finish.

Nell

[Dinorah]

Has anyone seen the description for the biography of Calvin? He might be important for the history of the Reform (though wouldn't *cough cough*) Luther be more important?) but the most important man of the millennium, really? Making a "trail of liberty"? Calvinist Geneva has been compared to modern Iran and Stalinist Russia, two societies known for how free they were.

[lilwriter85]

http://www.visionforum.com/browse/produ ... e/?cid=447

[Cran]

Has anyone seen the description for the biography of Calvin? He might be important for the history of the Reform (though wouldn't *cough cough*) Luther be more important?) but the most important man of the millennium, really? Making a "trail of liberty"? Calvinist Geneva has been compared to modern Iran and Stalinist Russia, two societies known for how free they were.

Yeah, but most baptist-brand churches can be traced back to the reformed churches (Calvinists) and not the Lutherans, so it's no miracle they hype up Calvin so much, despicable character nontheless, but Luther wasn't so saintly in some areas either.

Sorry if I doubt the theory that baptists form the one true church that went into hiding when the "whore of babylon" came to power and have no historical beginning but in Christ... :?

[luckylassie]

Ewwww! I looked at the site and saw the "Beautiful Girlhood" collection. I think these V.F. girls are what we call "loved but controlled". They are kept immature, ignorant, and controlled so that they do not think as individuals. They are like perpetual toddlers. Squick!

[NurseNell]

http://www.visionforum.com/browse/product/father-to-son-manly-conversations-that-can-change/?cid=447

Oh yes, one topic a father needs to instruct his son on is "Flirtatious Girls, Moral Purity, and Courtship". Those pesky flirtatious girls, they'll be the downfall of many a man unless you're trained by Daddy on how to deal with them. :o

Nell

[AnnoDomini]

Oh noes, those ebil flirtatious girls.

Ok ok, I understand theoreticaly how 'flirtatious' girls might be a problem--IF the boy ever encountered them. They're actually not very common. And honestly, this kind of thinking 'how to prepare yourself against those ebil wimminz' seems to promote misogyny and thinking of women as the enemy. Not intentionally probably, but still.

[Guest Anonymous]

Oh yes, one topic a father needs to instruct his son on is "Flirtatious Girls, Moral Purity, and Courtship". Those pesky flirtatious girls, they'll be the downfall of many a man unless you're trained by Daddy on how to deal with them. :o

Nell

Actually, they just WISH a few pesky, flirtatious girls would cross their paths, instead of laughing themselves into side stitches and running in the other direction, like they do now.

[GenerationCedarchip]

I have to admit that when we got one of the VF catalogs in the mail, my husband and I kept it simply because it was so funny, we couldn't toss it. It's shelved with all the Dilbert, Far Side, etc.. books at my house.

[Trynn]

I'm on a doll collector board, and they all thought the VF dolls looked incredibly cheap. This was before Fidelia is made by Gotz though. People still do not want to support the company though. They read the VF stuff and shuddered.