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Lori and Ken Alexander's Big Ol' Bucket o' Crazy - Part 2

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2xx1xy1JD

Well, Lori, if YOU are so emotional and gullible and incapable of logical thinking, maybe YOU should stop teaching?

I mean, the anti-vax hysteria you push isn't based on anything resembling actual science.

Those of us capable of critical and logical thought can take over while you're gone.

BTW - men have hormones too! Along with some low amounts of estrogen and prolactin, men have testosterone, which has an effect on the brain.

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jerkit

In a moment of weakness (LOL), I read today's post.

Where is the line drawn, Lori? What if my husband asks me a question about, say, olympic weightlifing. Am I supposed to say "No, sorry, I have to be meek and quiet and not teach you" even though I know a great deal about this topic and my husband does not?

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polecat
In a moment of weakness (LOL), I read today's post.

Where is the line drawn, Lori? What if my husband asks me a question about, say, olympic weightlifing. Am I supposed to say "No, sorry, I have to be meek and quiet and not teach you" even though I know a great deal about this topic and my husband does not?

This is exactly the type of thought that went through my head. When my husband has to write a report or something, he always runs it by me first to make sure there're no mistakes. He also frequently asks me how long to cook/microwave something (even though IT SAYS RIGHT ON THE PACKAGE THAT HE'S STANDING THERE HOLDING! but that's another topic for another day).

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jerkit

This is exactly the type of thought that went through my head. When my husband has to write a report or something, he always runs it by me first to make sure there're no mistakes. He also frequently asks me how long to cook/microwave something (even though IT SAYS RIGHT ON THE PACKAGE THAT HE'S STANDING THERE HOLDING! but that's another topic for another day).

I would be a terrible HELPmeet if I refused to HELP my husband when he needed HELP with something all in the name of "not teaching him"

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memabelle

Men don't just know everything automatically because penis. They have to learn things too. Were they not taught by their mothers when they were children? And if a woman is the most knowledgeable person on a topic, he's supposed to say, "No thank you. I don't want to learn as much as possible from the best teacher possible because, woman. I'll become half as knowledgeable from this guy here, because he's a man." :angry-banghead:

Edited to add that my husband is very smart but there are a lot of things I know that he doesn't, and he loves when I share these things with him. I think he loves me more BECAUSE I can teach him things.

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usmcmom
In a moment of weakness (LOL), I read today's post.

Where is the line drawn, Lori? What if my husband asks me a question about, say, olympic weightlifing. Am I supposed to say "No, sorry, I have to be meek and quiet and not teach you" even though I know a great deal about this topic and my husband does not?

Good question. My husband is a numbers guy - he's quite gifted in the finance field but will often come to me to proofread his emails. Am I supposed to ignore typos and grammatical errors because he's the man? That would allow him to send something that did not represent him in the best light. This example is foreign to Lori and Ken, I'm sure, because they seem to have no problem with poorly written correspondence. A good marriage means each spouse recognizes the strengths of the other and is not afraid to utilize those strengths.

This reminds me of a funny incident we had several week ago. My husband was wanting to speak to somebody about something unpleasant. He said to me "This is what I want to say. Tell me how to say it so he's still my friend afterward." I just laughed and said "Well, you might say something like....."

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salex

OK< you made me look and I skimmed it.

I am so sad I did.

Many women are deceived easily. {Why do you think the serpent went to Eve and she was perfect!}

Answer: Because men told the tale. Same reason it was Pandora who opened the jar.

We believe things easier and trust more. Many cults were started or influenced by women. The majority of women are also very emotional. We have mood swings because of all our hormonal changes going on in our bodies. God made us this way in order to bear and raise children. It is a good thing but something we always need to be aware of when making decisions and in our behavior. Emotions and experiences must NOT dictate our behavior and what we believe. Wisdom and God's Word must dictate it.

Only place I can find info on women being more easily deceived is on religious sites. I found a site that says women are lied to more often (thanks, men) one (national socialist?--not touching it but boy google takes you a lot of places!) site that says testosterone makes one less gullible that i'm not quoting because it would seem to me that women who feel like prey more often would be less gullible... but nothing specific... we can say that some church tradition believes women are more easily deceived.

However I did find some research on the emotional woman.

Men experience greater levels of emotion than women when presented with heart-warming material, according to the study for Royal Mail, which has used the findings to produce the "definitive" list of phrases for a successful Father's Day card.

A group of 15 fathers and 15 mothers were presented with images and videos categorized into blissful, funny, exciting and heart-warming scenarios, such as a soldier returning from service and reuniting with his daughter, while their physiological reactions were measured using skin conductance electrodes.

Men demonstrated a marginally higher emotional reaction to the blissful, funny and exciting content compared to the women but responded twice as strongly as women when presented with heart-warming content.

An accompanying questionnaire found that even though the men reported feeling less emotion than the women, their physiological changes showed they felt emotion more strongly.

Mindlab founder and chairman Dr David Lewis said: "Gender stereotypes about men being stoic and women being emotional are reinforced by our day-to-day consumption of media and our social interactions.

"We tend to oversimplify and exaggerate the perceived differences.

huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/13/men-women-emotional-parents_n_5491119.html

In my Bible under theses verses it states, "The wife ought to be displaying a tranquil spirit in her attempt to learn...Paul wanted to express the idea that in the wife's desire to learn, she should respect her husband's position over her in Christ." If a wife was continuously teaching her husband "the head would be undermined, and would not be in accordance with God's ordained order in creation. A wife should place limitations on her speech...Essentially, a wife's private or public life should be beyond reproach and never undermine the position that her husband has been given by God" {Strong's Dictionaries Concordance}

So, she is sticking with the sexist version as usual. However, not all men are as threatened by women as Ken. The role my husband has is to be himself and the role I have is to be myself... and that includes each of us bringing our best. One early goal was that we would be, together, greater than the sum of our parts--that means that each has to be willing to listen and learn if /when possible.

Simply put, God wants women to seek meek and quiet spirits, especially concerning our husbands. We are not called to teach our husbands, always question their authority or try to control and change them. We are called to be in subjection to them in order to have peace in the home and in accordance with God's ways. Peace is a beautiful thing and we are commanded to seek peace with ALL men, and the most important man to seek peace with is our husband.

My husband didn't and doesn't want a meek and quiet spirit. He once commented if I were as meek as a friend of ours, I'd have disappeared into the woodwork years ago. You can teach your husband and still have a very peaceful house IF you don't try to control or change them--or they you. That is what Lori never seems to get... you can be strong without being a bitch.

Therefore, learn to gently express your opinions and concerns to your husband and then let them go. Allow the Lord to convict and lead him. He is the head of the home, not us! Even if your husband is an unbeliever or disobedient to the Word, God commands wives to win their husbands "without a word." Husbands have a much better chance of being won by a wife's behavior than by her words.

And, back to completely misusing one of her favorite verses to misuse. Good God she is an idiot. That phrase is specific to not constantly trying to talk an unbelieving husband into converting.... thus the winning him without a word. It doesn't mean in every instance in life.

So, unresearched blather, bullshit, blather, bullshit. the end.

SSDD

SMH

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ViolaSebastian

You know, Lori, I really don't have many mood swings--probably because I take ebil birth control.

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docmom

Well Lori you've managed to make me so thankful for my husband- thankful that he's not Ken.

Actually I've always been thankful for my husband. Lori just really intensifies the feeling.

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lilwriter85

From today's posting, I'm kind of surprised that she says that fathers should help out. But other things are annoying as usual.

A mother wrote about being the "default parent." She doesn’t think it’s fair that she is the default parent even though she works part-time. Her definition of the default parent is, “All. Day. Long. I handle the needs of all three of our kids: activity sign-ups, transportation logistics, doctor & dentist appointments, friend and boy issues, hurt feelings, school fundraisers, gift buying, haircuts, clothes shopping, and thank you note writing, which, incidentally, is the work of the devil. I also manage the organization of drawers between seasons to see what fits. This is a crap job that only the default parent even knows exists.

Default parents know the names of their kids' teachers, all of them. They fill out endless forms, including the 20-page legal document necessary to play a sport at school, requiring a blood oath not to sue when your kids gets concussions, because they are going to get concussions. They listen to long, boring, intricate stories about gym games that make no sense. They spell words, constantly. They know how much wrapping paper there is in the house. The default parent doesn't have her own calendar, but one with everyone's events on it that makes her head hurt when she looks at it. They know a notary. They buy poster board in 10-packs. They've worked tirelessly to form a bond with the school receptionists. They know their kids' sizes, including shoe."

She can’t understand why her husband doesn’t take on any of these activities. Many women who work full-time take on all or most of these responsibilities also, which is very difficult. There is a simple explanation; moms were made to be multitaskers and the keepers of the home. We were created for the details. Men were not. We are the more nurturing of the sexes since children grow in our bodies; we nurse them and we are their mothers. God also gave us hormones to be the more emotional and sensitive ones to care for little ones and care about every detail.

Yes, if a mother is working full-time, a father should help around the home. However, this is the reason God commands young women to be keepers at home. There is a clear role delineation between the sexes. This prevents so much less conflict in the home and marriage. Running a household and children is a full-time job. It is far easier if it is being done by the mother since this is her God-given role. When a mother runs most of the details of running a home and raising children and the father works hard to provide for the family, they both have it easier than trying to handle each other's roles on top of their own. It would be wonderful if more husbands and fathers would realize the toll that their working wife is taking on their families and allow them to come home.

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2xx1xy1JD

More "men and women are just wired this way" crap from Lori.

No. Just no.

We are generally "wired" to do the things that we do the most. Repetition builds neural connections. http://lifehacker.com/the-science-of-pr ... -510255025

You know how it can feel automatic to drive a car, or play your favorite song on the piano, or type, or do anything else that you've done a million times?

Well, taking care of kids works exactly the same way! Why would it be any different?

I didn't know what I was doing the first time I changed a diaper, or the first time I dealt with a crying newborn. By the time kid #3 came along, I was an auto-pilot. It wasn't because I was a woman. It was because I had 3 kids in less than 5 years and therefore had constant practice.

My husband didn't always automatically know everything or do it with as much ease - because he didn't have as much practice. When he did take a 3 month parental leave, he got a LOT of practice and was just as comfortable as I was by the end. Sometimes, he'd even do something better.

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polecat
She can’t understand why her husband doesn’t take on any of these activities.

Lori has comprehension struggles. I didn't really get that this was what the writer was saying *at all.*

I'm the default parent here, and yes, it actually is an annoying phenomenon. My husband is an active, involved parent. In fact, I'd say he's a lot more involved with our kids than the average dad I know. He's an awesome father.

And the kids still come to me.

I'm an introvert and need some alone time at night. Everyone in my family knows this. This has been my routine since the kids were tiny. After a long, hard day, I'll go to my room and just sort of mellow out. Dad takes the reins. Again -- he's an awesome father, totally capable and completely into his kids. But you know what? A kid has an issue, guess where they go? They waltz their happy butts right past him and into my room to ask me the most inane questions. Questions that dad totally could have answered. Questions that dad would have been happy to answer. Then dad comes back and says, "Really? Why are you guys bothering mom?" And since they've successfully harshed my mellow, they all traipse back into the other part of the house, lol.

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Rebelwife

Lori has comprehension struggles. I didn't really get that this was what the writer was saying *at all.*

I'm the default parent here, and yes, it actually is an annoying phenomenon. My husband is an active, involved parent. In fact, I'd say he's a lot more involved with our kids than the average dad I know. He's an awesome father.

And the kids still come to me.

I'm an introvert and need some alone time at night. Everyone in my family knows this. This has been my routine since the kids were tiny. After a long, hard day, I'll go to my room and just sort of mellow out. Dad takes the reins. Again -- he's an awesome father, totally capable and completely into his kids. But you know what? A kid has an issue, guess where they go? They waltz their happy butts right past him and into my room to ask me the most inane questions. Questions that dad totally could have answered. Questions that dad would have been happy to answer. Then dad comes back and says, "Really? Why are you guys bothering mom?" And since they've successfully harshed my mellow, they all traipse back into the other part of the house, lol.

Are we sharing the same bedroom? :?

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KittenMitten

I am in the process of going through old Lori and Ken threads. Especially the ones where Ken protects Lori on freejinger. It is very scary. I am being drawn into an evil place. Lori and Ken seem to suck joy and light out of life. I am very scared. Any suggestions?

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jerkit
I am in the process of going through old Lori and Ken threads. Especially the ones where Ken protects Lori on freejinger. It is very scary. I am being drawn into an evil place. Lori and Ken seem to suck joy and light out of life. I am very scared. Any suggestions?

I legit had to stop reading it HA. It was poison in my life.

Hopefully you'll be able to read it and then not think about it. I was hearing Lori's voice in my head all day. Frightening.

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Burris
I am in the process of going through old Lori and Ken threads. Especially the ones where Ken protects Lori on freejinger. It is very scary. I am being drawn into an evil place. Lori and Ken seem to suck joy and light out of life. I am very scared. Any suggestions?

Don't read it - and I'm not being sarcastic: I can't read that stupid blog anymore. "Always Learning" is entirely wrong; it should be "Willfully Ignorant" (or maybe "Fiercely Ignorant" or even " *~*Willfully and Fiercely Ignorant! ~*~").

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lilwriter85

Don't read it - and I'm not being sarcastic: I can't read that stupid blog anymore. "Always Learning" is entirely wrong; it should be "Willfully Ignorant" (or maybe "Fiercely Ignorant" or even " *~*Willfully and Fiercely Ignorant! ~*~").

I still wonder why Lori chose that title for her blog. Maybe Ken had something to do with it. But I agree,it needs to be retitled.

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lilwriter85

Is this CM or does Lori have a new fanboy. I'm tired of the whole "we are wired different" thing. There is some truth to it, but guess what Lori and Rob, some men do pay attention to details quite a bit, while some women don't pay attention to details. I also hated the song that Rob references.

Rob · 9 hours ago

Mothers were absolutely created for details. When husbands and wives(moms and dads) switch roles i am sure things get turned upside down. I absolutely do not mean any disrespect towards my wife or any any mom. But yes i humbly my attention to details is lacking in certain areas in our home because i am so focused on providing for my family and my attention to detail is in different areas than her.

There was a song

Pampers melt in a may tag dryer

Crayons go up one drawer higher

Rewind Barney for the 15th time

There's bubble gum in the baby's hair

And its only 8am It went something like that

But thats so true isnt it. When a man attempts to be the home keeper things can quickly go disarray. Trust me men like me appreciate so much the attention to details that my wife provides. Because it allows me to focus my details i need to. One is not more important than the other, but again trust me when i say when my wife looks after the details of the kids, home it brings such a relief to me and there is harmony. As long as we both are doing what we are suppose to. Like Lori said we are just wired differently

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littlemommy

Rob=Robert? Sure sounds like him. I hope it is. I miss that goofy bastard.

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jerkit

The commenter Rob has been around several months and there's no indication it's CM.

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kpmom

I still wonder why Lori chose that title for her blog. Maybe Ken had something to do with it. But I agree,it needs to be retitled.

I wonder if she's referring to her readers?

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Koala

Today Lori is ranting about 50 Shades. I agree with her! It's absolutely horrific. If you don't believe me, just look at this:

Consider asking your husband if he would be willing to spank you as part of foreplay.

Please don’t panic. Spanking is not a slippery slope that will lead to BDSM, disturbing fetishes or deviant sexual practices. I can promise you that from personal experience; you won’t be spanked one day and in leather restraints the next. Some people practice Christian Domestic Discipline, but that is actually not what I am recommending either. This is only to be about increasing your attraction to him by having him display dominance via consensual sexual aggression.

It is his decision if he would be willing to try this; this may be outside his comfort zone completely, and he may be feeling very mistrustful of you, but if he is willing to try it, you may not be sure of what to do. Here is one possible way to go: first, ask him to buy a wooden hair brush that has a very flat back (the curved ones tend to leave more bruises). The brush should be on your dresser.

He can sit down on the edge of the bed and tell you to bring the brush to him. Get it, and then kneel down on the floor in front of him and hand the brush to him. He can then pull you firmly but lovingly across his lap, either with lingerie on or no bottoms. It might be easier to have your legs supported on the bed, but your hands off the bed so that you are slightly off balance. He can then administer the spanking; he might want to know that he can swat fairly hard without causing bruises, but even if you do have a bruise the next day, you won’t die.

The number of strokes should be up to him, not you; he decides when the spanking is over (h/t 7man for that idea), not you. When he is done, get on your knees in front of him and say thank you to him. You should thank him because he is doing something that may be outside his comfort zone in order to help you, and you do not deserve it. He is doing this out of love for you, so show him the gratitude he so richly deserves.

Scripture to meditate upon: For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. Hebrews 12:11

Oh, sorry about that! I got mixed up. That's not 50 Shades, that's Lori's friend Sunshine Mary! And she's not talking about "perverted imitations", she's (now let's see...how did Ken phrase it)

SSM is teaching some sex training for a previous whore

It is of note, that Ken was confronted with Lori's comment on that post:

My husband and I got a good laugh over it. He told me he would have given me 2 choices…a good spanking or no dishwasher. I told him I would take the spanking any day!

Ken's response:

It was also an inside joke with SSM. They had a back door discussion once about a husband being able to spank a wife.

BUT SSM made very clear to Lori she is not an advocate of Domestic Discipline

The rules:

50 Shades= BAD!

Backdoor spanking discussions= Good

Sex training for a previous whore= Good

Everyone clear? :pull-hair:

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KittenMitten

Don't read it - and I'm not being sarcastic: I can't read that stupid blog anymore. "Always Learning" is entirely wrong; it should be "Willfully Ignorant" (or maybe "Fiercely Ignorant" or even " *~*Willfully and Fiercely Ignorant! ~*~").

I'm sorry I wasn't clear. I'm reading the threads here. I'd prefer not to burst a blood vessel. I listened to less than 5 minutes of Lori on the radio. That was enough, thank you very much.

I've been reading 'Ken sets FJ straight' and 'Why Ken is really at FJ'. He is an interesting creature. Kind of like a creepy crawly bug you find under a rock. But 5 million kudos to all FJ's who just calmly repeated back his and Lori's quotes. "But, this is what you said or this is what Lori said". Endless wall of unclear and wandering text. Then FJ's repeat. "But Ken this is what you...." Apparently this goes on forever and I'm only half way through. You guys rock on how you handled Ken. :clap: :dance: I am honored to be in your presence.

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