Video--Michelle Duggar Remembers Jubilee

[ViolaSebastian]

In this video, Michelle, with blindingly white teeth and hair in terrible need of a hot oil treatment, reflects on losing Jubilee. I was actually impressed with her in this video, as she actually brings up getting counseling if necessary. Granted, she probably means faith-based counseling, but still, it's a start. I'd never heard that she lost a grand-nephew to suicide, which is terribly sad.

 

Highlights:

 

After losing Jubilee, she spent three days in the prayer closet. A "sweet" friend from a crisis pregnancy center brought them literature about babies the size of Jubilee and gave them the model of a fetus at the same stage of development. They have a photograph of Jubilee on their 'baby wall' along with photographs of the other children when they were babies. She was buried in a box from Hobby Lobby. Jordyn was so excited to have another little sister. She talks about Jubilee the most and every time she sees a butterfly, Jordyn brings her up. (This just broke my heart). She talks about J'Caleb, and claims that the children were the ones that gave him a name, years later.

 

Jim Bob makes an appearance in the last 5 minutes or so. It seems like he was genuinely affected by Jubilee's passing. He states that he thinks losing Jubilee at half-term was more difficult for Michelle than losing a full-term baby.

 

 

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[doggie]

At best her counciling is getting on your knees and begging for forgiveness the worst is going to some untrained preacher

[hollywood]

This is probably the most "real" I have seen her in an interview.

[BrownieMomma]

I tried to watch this, I really did.

I think Michelle has done the baby voice for so long she has forgotten how to use her adult voice. I just can't stomach the way she sounds, it is an immediate and total turn-off. No way can I listen to 30 min of that.

[HarleyQuinn]

Ahh..she must have noticed everyone making fun of the fact Caleb magically got a name during the Jubilee thing online.

[DGayle]

I honestly think the were more affected by the loss because it meant having to eat crow. Remember God gives babies to those who serve him, and God took that baby away, meaning God must be mad at them. It also means that they probably had to face the fact that losing J'Caleb probably wasn't from being on birth control because they weren't on birth control for many years, and if God's not mad over birth control, then they must be doing something else wrong. Too bad nothing changed.

I wish Michelle would focus as much on the 19 kids she has as she does on Jubilee. I wish she'd mention Caleb even half as often.

[JHeathen]

It's very telling that the kids named Caleb...and DID NOT choose a J name for him.

[nst]

how big is this prayer closet because what is the point of that ? Was she sleeping standing up or just praying for three days straight because she was so sad and felt bad - - if she was sad and wanted alone time I get that - but to stay in a closet and not her bedroom is wrong imo

[doggie]

she has had anywhere from 40 to 75 failed pregnancies as thats the norm for eggs that don't implant. so not using birth control causes lost babies far more then birth control does.

[treemom]

How would he know how losing a full term baby would impact Michelle? It hasn't happened and to be honest speculating on this being worse for her than that is kinda shitty to their fans who have had a child die or lost a full term pregnancy

[JHeathen]

Oh dear. Between the crazy eyes, the rambling, the baby voice combined with scratchy throat, and ending sentences as if they had a question mark? I gave up in a few short minutes. Well, they *felt* like very long minutes. :ew:

[Rachel333]

It's very telling that the kids named Caleb...and DID NOT choose a J name for him.

It goes with Joshua, though, (there's a Bible story about the spies Joshua and Caleb, if anyone didn't know) so it was kind of themed since they didn't have their J theme going yet.

I know some people think they didn't name Caleb until recently, but one of them mentioned Caleb almost immediately after finding out Jubilee was gone and even for them I don't think it's weird that they talk more about a recent miscarriage that was almost far enough along to be a still birth than a very early miscarriage over 20 years ago. They were clearly very affected by that miscarriage too, though, as they say that's what led to them having the family they do now.

I tried to watch this but I just can't take Michelle's baby voice. I feel bad if that's her real voice, but it is just so hard to listen to. Her wide eyes also made her look fairly terrified in the beginning.

[txmommyof4]

I (quite miserably) watched most of of this. I think Jim Bob meant the actual delivery was more painful/difficult than a full term/live delivery. He even mentioned the excessive bleeding.

[JHeathen]

It goes with Joshua, though, (there's a Bible story about the spies Joshua and Caleb, if anyone didn't know) so it was kind of themed since they didn't have their J theme going yet...

If "the kids" named him/her, then yes, they DID have the J theme going on already.

[treemom]

I (quite miserably) watched most of of this. I think Jim Bob meant the actual delivery was more painful/difficult than a full term/live delivery. He even mentioned the excessive bleeding.

That seems odd considering how Josie's birth had to have been traumatic.

[SassyPants]

That seems odd considering how Josie's birth had to have been traumatic.

I agree.

Not that I've had either a MC or a pre term infant, but I did work in the Nicu for 35 years.

Certainly, means that they were more concerned for themselves, than for the pain and suffering of either Josie or Jubilee. Did Jubilee suffer more than Josie? Or were they more adversely affected by the experience of Jubilee vs Josie, because they never reached #20?????

[txmommyof4]

That seems odd considering how Josie's birth had to have been traumatic.

Josie was a c-section. They won't deliver a 25 weeker vaginally because more times than not, birth kills them.

[txmommyof4]

For the record, I have had 3 preemies (25 weeks, 30 weeks, 33 weeks) one mostly full term (36 week almost 7 pound) and a 12 week miscarriage.

[Rachel333]

If "the kids" named him/her, then yes, they DID have the J theme going on already.

Oh, did they say the kids named him? I was under the impression that they named him when they just had Josh.

[BarbaraMary]

I watched nearly the whole thing. All of JB an Jchelle talking. I actually thought this was the most normal I've seen them. JBs voice cracks with emotion. Michelle gives some real and valid advice about grief and how to support someone who is grieving.

[Coconut Flan]

Josie was a C-section because it was safer for her and they had time because Michelle wasn't in labor. I've known two people deliver 23 weekers vaginally because they dropped so fast it was safer for the preemies to complete the delivery that way.

[SassyPants]

Plenty of extremely preterm infants are born vaginally.

Josie was born early and by C-section because of maternal issues- Michelle had pre-eclampsia.

[txmommyof4]

All I know is what my (incrediby competent) doctors told me and that was, whenever possible micropreemies are c-section due to the risk to the baby. Whatever the case, we know Josie was so she didn't experience a vaginal pre term delivery. I know the bleeding was horrible with my miscarriage but my babies were all c section. And Jim Bob is very clearly talking about the act of delivering Jubilee, not the emotions involved.

[Coconut Flan]

Yes, the doctors prefer to deliver micro-preemies by C-section and usually with good reason. However, they can't deliver all of them that way due to various circumstances and their patients sometimes having their own opinions.

[txmommyof4]

Yes, I suppose I should have worded my earlier post better. Obviously there will be exceptions. However, when possible, micro preemies are delivered c-section to reduce the chance of life threatening trauma to the baby. It's incredible how fragile yet how tough and resilient these tiny ones are.

Oh, and in response to one earlier thing. Someone said did Jubilee suffer more. Well yeah, she certainly did. She died. Josie is a 5 y/o spitfire. So obviously Jubilee suffered more, or greater if you will. My 25 weeker went through so much. 7 blood transfusions, a ventilator until he was 2 1/2 months old, he is legally blind without his glasses and has scars and this really quiet raspy voice from damage to his vocal cords. But he's a gorgeous, brilliant, normal 17 y/o and it was worth every bit of what he went through.