Petition for the Duggars to be Cancelled

[Coco]

Just to play devils advocate: I don't think the bolded questions are mutually exclusive. I also don't think that if a Christian views homosexual sex as sinful that it automatically means they believe in denying the right to marry. A Christian can personally view homosexual sex as being a sin while still advocating for the fair and equal treatment of homosexual persons both personally and legally.

That is so true. Equal rights do not eliminate freedom of speech or belief. In fact it reinforces them. If i want my rights, i have to give you your rights.

*once i got into a huge debate about this on Mennodiscuss and facebook with some very religious friends. It got confusing. :lol: We started debating morality and ethics and the rule of law. But all i had meant to say was: equality doesn't mean everyone has the same lifestyle, it means everyone has the same right to choose a lifestyle that doesn't hurt innocents.

At that time i was still a conservative, but i got treated like a complete liberal, just for advocating fairness.

[eh02]

It is a privilege and I think it is something the Duggars forget at times.

I think 19kac will die a slow death.

I think the Duggars genuinely believe that God has given them the show as a platform to evangelize. I mean, everything in their life has worked out remarkably well against all odds - 19 healthy kids, only two miscarriages out of 21 pregnancies, a huge home, a tv show. JB+M are living in a constant state of delusion where they are the heroes that God is rewarding. I mean, when Michelle had her miscarriage on the show, they looked not only devastated, but totally, utterly shocked. IMO they really, truly believed that God would save the baby - because they're Duggars, haven't they earned it? :roll:

And I agree with the general thoughts on the show. Nobody ever told the Duggars they can't believe gay marriage is wrong, or that all trans people are pedophiles, no matter how offensive those ideas might be. But when they are making enormous amounts of money and directly spending it on supporting legislation that limits or takes away peoples' rights, I think it is very reasonable for viewers to let TLC know they are not happy. TLC doesn't have to listen, but there is nothing wrong with people sharing that they are unhappy with the Duggars IMO.

[MatthewDuggar]

Now trending on Facebook! :roll: :o :roll:

Fans Create Counter-Petition to Save 19 Kids and Counting

[lilwriter85]

Now trending on Facebook! :roll: :o :roll:

Fans Create Counter-Petition to Save 19 Kids and Counting

Did Lori start this?

[Rainytown]

And Jezebel weighs in. TLC's PR group should be a bit nervous about this...

http://jezebel.com/rabid-homosexual-act ... 831994/all

[abseedee]

Here's another petition to save 19KAC. Someone posted the link in the comments section of the Duggar Family Blog. I don't know when this was started but how the heck did they get to 85K so fast :o ?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/petitions/ ... gar-family

edited to complete a sentence.

[Mecca]

Here's another petition to save 19KAC. Someone posted the link in the comments section of the Duggar Family Blog. I don't know when this was started but how the heck did they get to 85K so fast :o ?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/petitions/ ... gar-family

edited to complete a sentence.

Lori is probably sitting at her computer with her phonebook typing away....

[Toothfairy]

Like I said if you do something or talk about something and get negative press blame yourself. You can't talk a hit about certain things while being employed by a network or company. Imagine if I had my own tlc show and talked shit about birth control, adoption, premarital sex, and gays. I would probably be canceled. The Duggars have a job to do and they better be grateful they lasted this long. Tlc has the freedom to do whatever they want including canceling them, just like the Duggars have freedom of speech which protects you from the government not a network or company or backlash. It's interesting to see the petitions. And I suspect that the Duggars aren't even liked in their own community.

The Ed Show on MSNBC is reporting on the petition to get 19 kids off the air. So far 130,000 people have signed the petition. This is big because once a story like this is reported on one MSNBC show it will get covered on other MSNBC shows.

[FlamingFundie]

Any chance the host of this petition is a member here at FJ?

[blackkatya]

Here's another petition to save 19KAC. Someone posted the link in the comments section of the Duggar Family Blog. I don't know when this was started but how the heck did they get to 85K so fast :o ?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/petitions/ ... gar-family

edited to complete a sentence.

Life Site News is very popular among the pro-life crowd. I would imagine that is why it spread so fast.

[grandmadugger]

How exactly is comparing a loving gay couple to murder and adultery and being a drunk not making a judgment on gay people as being bad? Do you really believe Phil Roberts and the rest of the Duck Dynasty family go out and vote for gay marriage and support politicians who are pro-gay?

I can quote the Bible to support keeping slaves. Doesn't mean it is a good idea. Quoting the Bible does not excuse someone from preaching hate and yes, comparing a gay person to a murderer is hate.

I'm not going to get into a Biblical debate with you. I was answering how the two compared. I don't know how they vote because they don't spend tens of thousands of dollars to make that known. They don't stump for candidates all over the country. That's what we are talking about here. The Duggars spending their earnings from TLC to deny the rights of other individuals. And it's not just the LBGTQ community that they are attempting to take rights away from, but that is the hot button issue of late so that's what everyone focuses on.

[formergothardite]

I'm not going to get into a Biblical debate with you. I was answering how the two compared. I don't know how they vote because they don't spend tens of thousands of dollars to make that known. They don't stump for candidates all over the country. That's what we are talking about here. The Duggars spending their earnings from TLC to deny the rights of other individuals. And it's not just the LBGTQ community that they are attempting to take rights away from, but that is the hot button issue of late so that's what everyone focuses on.

You shouldn't claim a person isn't judging if you can't back that claim up. Phil judges gay people constantly in his multiple quotes on the subject. He is just as horrible as the Duggars.

Phil also does stump for republican candidates(Bill Cassidy). He hangs out with Sarah Palin and I really don't think that the Republican he was trying to get Senate was pro-gay rights. He also made a political video for Zach Dasher where he uses his fame to try and get Zach Dasher into Congress. His platform was based around putting "God" back in Washington, "traditional family", and getting rid of political correctness.

[FloraKitty35]

You shouldn't claim a person isn't judging if you can't back that claim up. Phil judges gay people constantly in his multiple quotes on the subject. He is just as horrible as the Duggars.

Phil also does stump for republican candidates(Bill Cassidy). He hangs out with Sarah Palin and I really don't think that the Republican he was trying to get Senate was pro-gay rights. He also made a political video for Zach Dasher where he uses his fame to try and get Zach Dasher into Congress. His platform was based around putting "God" back in Washington, "traditional family", and getting rid of political correctness.

The Robertson clan are a bunch of Chrstian Taliban fascists, too. As for political correctness, that always seems to be the first thing after "my freedom" that bullies and assholes whine about when they get called out on the hate filled bullshit that they spew.

[lilwriter85]

Duggar fangirl Lori mentioned the the Duggars in her posting yesterday. The posting was mostly about a recent controversy regarding a Barbie book, which lead to Lori talking about what men should do.

[calimojo]

Yeah, just no. You cannot compare people speaking up for their rights and highlighting actions of bigotry and the Duggars using their money and fame to actively help legislate discrimination against women and the gay community. Big, big difference.

This persecution theory many Christians sling around just needs to cease. Sure, they are so persecuted they have lobbyists groups in Washington, representation in government, numerous radios stations, numerous television stations and shows, movies, production companies, music on mainstream stations, record companies, bookstores, numerous Christain related businesses, literature, numerous exemptions from the government, tax breaks, churches on ever corner, schools..... Yeah, this sounds like a group that is just not adequately represented in society in the U.S. and really has it hard..

The Duggars have Constitutional rights to their religion, but they do not have the right to diminish the Constitutional rights of others. Basically, live your life and let people live their's. No one here is actively lobbying for the destruction of The Constitutional rights of Christians. I cannot say the same for some groups of Christians.

Mecca, I wish there was a way for me give your post a million likes!1

[lilwriter85]

Any chance the host of this petition is a member here at FJ?

I would say there is a chance. But I wouldn't be surprised if the host is gay. Gay and lesbian communities have known about the Duggars' beliefs for awhile. Sites like DataLounge and the popular lesbian site LChat have posted shit about the Duggars over the past few years. The DomWackTroll posts on DataLounge. A few years back, IIRC, Michelle or JB was apart of some lobbying to keep same gays from adopting kids in Arkansas. I remember it being discussed on FJ Yuku right before the move here.

[MoonFace]

If people were to write NBC and complain about them having the Duggars on, would they eventually re-think their invitations to them?

And what about letting People know that if they continue to cover the never ending Duggar stories that they will cancel their subscriptions?

It's not just TLC spreading the Duggar Ways and Words.

[roddma]

You can't really compare the Duggars to honey boo boo's mom because no one out there is going to defend pedophiles or support the idea that it's ok to have them around your children.

There are pics of the Duggars with Bill Gothard who recently got charged with 34 counts of sexual miscondut. I think the difference is Bill Gothard has never been officially charged. And he doesnt live with them. Even so I dont think it will cancel the show becasue they seem to dance circles around the DUggars.

IMO all reality tv needs to go at least most of them. It dumbs down America.The DUggars need off the air regardless of their stances.Pro-gay or not, there is no way two parents can give equal attention to 19 kids let alone financial support without sufficient help..And the kids have no real protection on reality tv.

In agreement with Lilwriter85@, the Duggars would be living more like the Bates if not for the income. They may not have been starving, but minus the trips and huge house.The Duggars maybe nice to those the fans they meet in public , but they would not interact with these fans on a daily basis. They seem only nice to those in their circles. I read Michelle used to go around asking furniture stores for freebies. I think the HVAC thing was mentioned in their first book.

[lilwriter85]

If TLC doesn't can the Duggars due to the petition, I wouldn't be surprised if they send PR specialist out to the Duggars to train them and what not to do or say. The Duggars would have to comply if something like that happens. Like I said before, without a show, the Duggars know they will lose certain perks or luxuries. I would say that Mullet and the older Duggar girls along with Josh know that and that would have them worried.

The show will eventually end and we all know that. It's just a question of when. Some people may be ok with watching for a couple of more seasons of courtships/weddings and grandchildren births. But eventually viewers and TLC will want to move on, once a majority of viewers stop caring about the adults kids marrying and having kids.

[eh02]

If TLC doesn't can the Duggars due to the petition, I wouldn't be surprised if they send PR specialist out to the Duggars to train them and what not to do or say. The Duggars would have to comply if something like that happens.

I think the Duggars already get TONS of PR "training." That family is a huge liability. One kid over 18 gets caught on camera saying something awful or doing something wrong and they have an instant overnight sh*tstorm. It's a miracle they've made it this long.

I think right now, it's a good thing they've got Jill on her own. She's the "safe" one who doesn't say anything stupid or overtly offensive. She's stable and predictable. I would not be surprised if TLC played up her storyline more than Jessa's next year simply because she's better than Jessa at keeping the whole "Duggar image" going.

[MatthewDuggar]

I think the Duggars already get TONS of PR "training." That family is a huge liability.

I agree, I am sure that started day one when the they got picked up as a series, however, there have been some pretty bad mistakes made over the years, especially with Smugs and his social media...

[Toothfairy]

The duggars can never keep their mouth shut or do things that make them look stupid. I hope the show does end because I see no reason why they have a show in the first place. So what they have 19 kids would they like a medal of honor?? Tlc is suppose to be the learning channel. Not shows about 90 day fiancée, honey boo boo, or other shitty shows. I'm suppose to learn something from these shows. At least Little People and Little Couple teaches something. The Duggars doesn't teach people shit. I'm glad that fans are questioning their courtship methods and why these girls aren't doing anything but waiting for a man to take care of them. I do think the petitions are stupid but it does give them attention. And I understand why some say the Duggars have rights to delete them but they do discriminate against other groups of people and that isn't right. Just like people who talk about gays are going to hell. They posted on their Facebook page for fans to post pictures of couples kissing. I see nothing wrong with gays who probably watches the show to post pictures. Most of the comments weren't rude, until they started to delete them. Maybe next time they should be more specific. I just wonder if unmarried couples with kids or if widows posted pics did they delete them

[MatthewDuggar]

At least Little People and Little Couple teaches something.

Maybe for a season, but then it's back to the same old bullshit.

[CorruptionInc.]

I read Michelle used to go around asking furniture stores for freebies. I think the HVAC thing was mentioned in their first book.

You may have birthed 19 offspring Mullet, but if you can't provide for them properly, you shouldn't of had some of them!! This probably would've still been before they lived in the TTH?

[lilwriter85]

Back in 2004, there was a thread on a discussion board about the Duggars. It was around the time Jackson was born, someone on that discussion board said he was a high school classmate of Michelle's. He said the Duggars were getting handouts from their church. I also recall Boob or Mullet confirming that in an interview. I also remember hearing something about people leaving bags of kids clothes at the Duggars' old house. In the first years of the regular show, some viewers were sending clothes and other things for the kids.

One of the biggest issues, I've had with Duggar leghumpers is that they go on an on about how "the Duggars can afford a large family and aren't on government assistance". Now the Duggars may have never been on government assistance, but if there were taking assistance from churches, community members and private organizations, that still means they needed outside help to keep their family afloat. I wish the leghumpers would realize that without the show the Duggars wouldn't where they are today.