Jill and Derick Dillard- Part 2

[keen23]

This first thread is here: viewtopic.php?f=87&t=22776

[BrownieMomma]

Last thing discussed was Jill and James waiting for Derick to get off work...

Jill and Derick are both still so new to this, all of it really, that Derick is probably happy to see them both.

Derick hasn't been working his "real job" very long. They are newlyweds. Yeah they are gonna do goopy stuff like eat lunch and Jill pick him up the moment she can from work.

I'm sure she will have a difficult time transitioning to a real life - a real life being one where the breadwinner has to get up and go to work somewhere, at regularly appointed times.

This is going to mess with her Duggar time, with being night owls, with Jill being alone all day whereas Jim Bob was probably around the house a whole whole lot. At least a lot more than a person with a regular jobs and reporting to work somewhere.

[jingerdoe]

I wouldn't be shocked if Jill was bored to death and missing her kids.

[AniLand]

It has to be embarrassing for Derick. Even as newlyweds (and I'm giving credit for the fact that this is Jill's first relationship, so it's going to be goopy), being a professional, and having your wife waiting for you in the parking lot to clock out is embarrassing. What if he runs late? His coworkers are going to know that the wife is waiting, so he can't stay if he needs to... I would hate that kind of pressure.

[karen77]

NOt to defend them, but maybe they had plans for after?

[EmmieJ]

I met my first serious boyfriend when I was 17 and a senior in high school. He was two years older and a "college man." We met while he was on a break from college. I do recall that he would often pick me up from work, waiting for me in the back parking lot of the store (employee parking lot). It was very nice to have my boyfriend waiting to pick me up, and we'd often go get something to eat before he drove me home.

However, we were quite young and for that age range, it was pretty normal behavior.

I think Jill is developmentally behind schedule because of the way she and her siblings (especially the females) have been raised. They were raised never to truly develop interests of their own that would take them outside the family group. Either they were too busy raising their siblings and maintaining the house; or they were off filming as a family unit for TLC.

In contrast, I moved out of my parents' house at age 19, moving about 7 hours away to a town where an older sister lived. I got my own one-bedroom apartment, got a job on my own, etc. I did things with my sister, but I also developed new friendships, went sight-seeing around the local area on my own, took a craft class a the local fabric store, went to the beach on week-ends, and so on. I had a full and fun life. Jill only has Derrick at this point, plus a growing belly. She doesn't seem to have much else of interest in her life - her friends are her sisters.

Derrick is still cow-eyed in love, so he probably is happy that Jill is waiting for him in the parking lot. (Do they only have one car? Does she drive him to and from work every day? Or does he drive to work, and then follow her car home?) And people will probably give them some slack because they are newlyweds. But if she's still waiting to pick him up after work in a couple of years, with toddlers in tow, it could affect his chances of promotion. Imagine telling your boss that you can't work late because your wife is waiting for you in the parking lot.

[Georgiana]

I'm sure it'll die out on it's own. After all, going to pick up your hubby is one thing when you're by yourself. But it gets harder when it also means packing up a newborn and getting out the door, harder still when it's newborn+toddler, and an epic quest when it's 2 toddlers and a newborn.

There will come a time when the novelty has worn off and the effort required just makes it not worth it.

[Mabel]

Weren't Josh and anna kind of the same way? I know her working at the dealership is different but they were still together a lot.

[tabitha2]

http://www.people.com/article/duggar-pr ... ck-dillard

Apparently Michelle and JB 'council' them every week.

[karen77]

http://www.people.com/article/duggar-premarital-counseling-video-jill-derick-dillard

Apparently Michelle and JB 'council' them every week.

That's just effed up.

I can see asking a few questions, but some of that, ick. IF they were going to pre-marital counselling from someone else..then ok, it's good to bring those things up, no problems there, but from your in-laws...so not right.

[Georgiana]

That's just effed up.

I can see asking a few questions, but some of that, ick. IF they were going to pre-marital counselling from someone else..then ok, it's good to bring those things up, no problems there, but from your in-laws...so not right.

Especially since there is no chance of an unbiased opinion in quarrels. And if they do remain unbiased, it sort of takes away a support system from Jill (you want your family to take your side if you ever have a difference with your partner).

[nst]

http://www.people.com/article/duggar-premarital-counseling-video-jill-derick-dillard

Apparently Michelle and JB 'council' them every week.

I saw this and came right over

Jill's hair

Derick's face

and just overall everything

[tabitha2]

I'm gonna go there- Derick has a vaguely rodent face. The teeth maybe?

[BrownieMomma]

http://www.people.com/article/duggar-premarital-counseling-video-jill-derick-dillard

Apparently Michelle and JB 'council' them every week.

Seriously. That is just wrong on every level.

I could see Michelle counseling Jill. Offering advice and experience... well for Michelle, continuing to tell Jill everything to do and think. And not every week, omg.

How about they start counseling every other week with Cathy, Derick's mother?

And that's just offensive for JB to ask if Derick's family bought new cars. Wow. Way overstepping.

Oh bleh.

I really hope popularity starts waning fast for the Duggars. Even people who watch just for the interest or whatever, surely things like that make them go... uhhh too weird for me thanks.

[Four is Enough]

Oh Puhleeze. "counseling?" Where did they get the ability to counsel their kids? Go to a REAL minister already.

[FakePigtails]

From the People article:

"Did your family buy used vehicles?" he asks Derick. Fortunately for his future son-in-law, Derick's family didn't ever buy brand new cars.

"What do you think about debt?" Jim Bob continues. "Say your engine blew up on your car and you're running low on cash, what would you do?"

"Probably have an emergency fund," Derick replies.

"What if that was depleted?" Jim Bob asks.

"I wouldn't go into debt," Derick says.

Good answer.

What??? Leaving aside how weird it is to do premarital counseling with anyone other than a neutral 3rd party, new cars can be worth the extra cost. At least last year when I was thinking of buying a new (to me) car, used ones weren't that much cheaper than new. Also, how exactly would he pay for a repair with no emergency fund and without going into debt? My initial thought is that that leaves bartering as the only option and it doesn't seem like there's that much Derick could even do towards that. Maybe he's actually referring to taking from the JB&M fund through bullshit yard work like Ben's doing :roll:

Gosh, this family just keeps outdoing themselves.

[tabitha2]

When a person Marries a Duggar be it male or female they are part of the Duggar continuum...He has apparently become Mr. Derick Duggar. JB is going to retain control of his little empire.

[CorruptionInc.]

Especially since there is no chance of an unbiased opinion in quarrels. And if they do remain unbiased, it sort of takes away a support system from Jill (you want your family to take your side if you ever have a difference with your partner).

Boob and Mullet, LEAVE YOUR DAUGHTER ALONE! Also her husband, who is way too good for your family...

[Coco]

Did Jill seem smug to anyone else? "Now, Derick listen good, this is how it's done, i know all the answers already." Maybe.... maybe she's just excited. I hope that's all it was. A fan would say she was just excited to be doing courtship the right way. A perfectionist excited to check off all the goals one by one:

ding-counseling date!!!! aren't we speshul??

ding-debt avoidance easy when you have a rich dad

ding-sending fiance pinterest links during the workday white or ecru napkins, Babe?????

ding-trying to listen to mom and dad over her own thoughts shouting 'i'm the first girl! i'm the first girl! i'm the first girl!'

At least Derick had a teachable attitude. Probably Jill had already memorized the book lol no wonder Jana isn't courting publicly (if she is), if they'd make her fiance suffer these "lessons in how to do life."

[SassyPants]

http://www.people.com/article/duggar-premarital-counseling-video-jill-derick-dillard

Apparently Michelle and JB 'council' them every week.

FFS= these people have absolutely jumped the shark. Parental marriage counseling??? Jb and M need to STFU and get home and start raising all those little kids they felt they needed to have, and lay off the family sized cups of dessert.

This really is overstepping the boundaries.

[nst]

Author: SassyPants » Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:11 pm

tabitha2 wrote:

http://www.people.com/article/duggar-pr ... ck-dillard

Apparently Michelle and JB 'council' them every week.

FFS= these people have absolutely jumped the shark. Parental marriage counseling??? Jb and M need to STFU and get home and start raising all those little kids they felt they needed to have, and lay off the family sized cups of dessert.

This really is overstepping the boundaries.quote/

I saw that and i thought wow - somebody doesn't need to watch their weight

[FJismyheadship]

My dad and stepmom have been married ten years, and he goes to see her for lunch. She works at Wal-Mart, and everyday she works he meets her at work and they go out to eat.

I fail to see how this is weird or creepy. My stepmom made friends with her coworkers by working beside them, talking during their 15 minute breaks, among other things. She is friends with most of her coworkers, and doesn't even spend time with any of them outside work... whos to say Derrick can't make friends the same way?

[BrownieMomma]

My dad and stepmom have been married ten years, and he goes to see her for lunch. She works at Wal-Mart, and everyday she works he meets her at work and they go out to eat.

I fail to see how this is weird or creepy. My stepmom made friends with her coworkers by working beside them, talking during their 15 minute breaks, among other things. She is friends with most of her coworkers, and doesn't even spend time with any of them outside work... whos to say Derrick can't make friends the same way?

I think it is just not the norm. The non-working spouse, in this case Jill (no idea how it is your Dad can go meet his wife for lunch every day, retired or something?) clearly has nothing going on for herself. Which, to some people, this is exactly what she is supposed to be doing. Existing for Derick.

If Jill were pursuing her midwifery, it's unlikely she'd have the time to bring lunch to Derick every day.

I've been working a lonnnng time, over 30 years, and I've never seen a situation where it works out that a spouse can make it up to the workplace for lunch every day. My current officemate does eat with his wife every day but she works in the next set of offices so not exactly the same thing.

Once Jill has a kid or two or three, she won't be running up to the office every day.

[FJismyheadship]

I think it is just not the norm. The non-working spouse, in this case Jill (no idea how it is your Dad can go meet his wife for lunch every day, retired or something?) clearly has nothing going on for herself. Which, to some people, this is exactly what she is supposed to be doing. Existing for Derick.

If Jill were pursuing her midwifery, it's unlikely she'd have the time to bring lunch to Derick every day.

I've been working a lonnnng time, over 30 years, and I've never seen a situation where it works out that a spouse can make it up to the workplace for lunch every day. My current officemate does eat with his wife every day but she works in the next set of offices so not exactly the same thing.

Once Jill has a kid or two or three, she won't be running up to the office every day.

{L_MESSAGE_HIDDEN}:

He works nights. Of course, my brother is also in school, and he sleeps half the day so he CAN work at night. But even when he was working days, he worked right across the street from her and their schedules were usually fairly similar. They also used to take the same car into town when they lived an hour away, have my baby brother go to our grandmothers house after school, and when my dad would get off before my stepmom, he would hang out in town until she got off, go get her, they would shop for about an hour or more, and not get home til close to my brothers bedtime. I always had issues with that, and my baby brother suffered. He did terrible in school and was mean to everyone. He is addicted to electroniccs because thats all he had for the longest time :-/ They overcompensated by giving him all the electronic gadgets they could. Either that or it was so he would leave them alone

[janetsmirror]

It's really creepy how much control Boob and J'chele have even after their kids are married. I don't like Smuggar but I think he and Anna are better off in DC. Any of the kids that stay close to the compound are easier to manipulate.