Jill has no Trousseau

[whitegirl22]

The trousseau consists of brand-new outfits to see a woman through her wedding, honeymoon, and newlywed days. The garments in a trousseau were hand-sewn by a mother, aunt, grandmother, or the girl herself, if skilled with a needle. Busy families procured the skills of a professional seamstress to outfit the bride-to-be.The going away outfit (for honeymoon) is a vital part of this arrangement

[SassyPants]

JAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNA Stat!

[Four is Enough]

It's sad that girls that age have shared clothing to the extent that they have nothing new to call their very own. I can see sharing, and I can see "used" clothing. Heck, I buy from the Goodwill for myself. But ONLY the wedding dress is new. Only the wedding dress belongs to Jill alone, and I BET that if someone else wants to use it, they'll be able to do so. A trousseau... are their underwear their own? Accessories? This would be a lovely time for a clothing shower for Jill and Jessa.

[Georgiana]

Well, good thing her husband has a real job and she has plenty of money from her People covers to buy herself new things!

To be honest, she might as well have left everything to her sisters. She knew she would probably be in maternity wear soon after marriage anyway...and she'll probably stay in maternity wear for the foreseeable future.

[Georgiana]

In all seriousness though, does ANYONE have trousseaus anymore? My mother and grandmother are both seamstresses, and I would never expect hand-sewn clothing. I'll get a marriage quilt hand-made by the women in my community, but outside of that community, I don't know anyone else who gets that!

I mean, most women live on their own before marriage now, so they come into the marriage with plenty of stuff. In the olden days dress styles for unmarried vs married women were different, so you couldn't use much of your "maiden" wardrobe after marriage, which meant that you needed a completely new one (no longer the case).

ARE trousseaus still a thing in other parts of the country/world?

[whitegirl22]

In all seriousness though, does ANYONE have trousseaus anymore? My mother and grandmother are both seamstresses, and I would never expect hand-sewn clothing. I'll get a marriage quilt hand-made by the women in my community, but outside of that community, I don't know anyone else who gets that!

I mean, most women live on their own before marriage now, so they come into the marriage with plenty of stuff. In the olden days dress styles for unmarried vs married women were different, so you couldn't use much of your "maiden" wardrobe after marriage, which meant that you needed a completely new one (no longer the case).

ARE trousseaus still a thing in other parts of the country/world?

Jill needs a trousseau. She has never lived alone.

[bluehydrangea]

Shit, I wish I had a trousseau. How awesome would it be to have a bunch of new outfits AND all the stuff off your registry? Don't tell Jessa I said that. It will give her ideas.

[HereticHick]

I agree that any J'Slave (or howler) leaving the Duggar nest may need some new clothes because they are leaving the communal closet.

Still, I am unaware that ANYONE in the United States has gotten a trousseau in the last 50 years. Maybe some ultra rich society girls. Or maybe Amish and Mennonites still do it.

But in my opinion it is a tradition that has totally died out in mainstream America.

[whitegirl22]

I agree that any J'Slave (or howler) leaving the Duggar nest may need some new clothes because they are leaving the communal closet.

Still, I am unaware that ANYONE in the United States has gotten a trousseau in the last 50 years. Maybe some ultra rich society girls. Or maybe Amish and Mennonites still do it.

But in my opinion it is a tradition that has totally died out in mainstream America.

But Jill is not a modern girl. She is under a Headship. The headship should provide the items to render the smooth transfer to another Headship. Maybe, the gift registries are so outrageous is because the kids have no way of ever getting the money to buy stuff themselves. They don't have incomes except for Derrick.

[Pandora Spocks]

If you use trousseau in the more modern sense of the word -- new clothes to start out married life, I agree she should have had one. I think many of the women I know that get married, myself included, buy some new things when they are getting hitched. In the traditional sense -- homemade clothes, yeah, no. And that would be mean to throw on Janarella, even if she is "more available."

[Four is Enough]

In any event, a bride needs a wardrobe of her own, which Jill and Jessa probably don't have. I think some new things would be appropriate for them to wear, going into married life.

[RosyDaisy]

I bought my sister some clothes when she got married. I was working at a retail store at the time and used my employee discount.

[amster]

I have been stockpiling gift vouchers I was given to buy myself a few honeymoon items. I've never heard of a trousseau, but I think it sounds like a great idea. Just another excuse for me to go shopping!

As for Jill & Jessa, I do believe they should be given an allowance to go out and finally buy themselves some new items, just for them. I know Michelle has admitted in the past that the girls do buy some new clothes now, but surely they should go into the marriage with things that are theirs and only theirs.

[SassyPants]

Again-

These kids should have been paid an income for the years that they have been working the family job.

Since JB kept all the money (we have no reason to believe otherwise), HE NEEDS TO BUY THEM WHAT THEY NEED TO CLOTHE THEMSELVES AS THEY EXIT INTO THE WORLD.

Cheap bastardo

[Feberin]

I'm sure that her sisters gave Jill all the longer frumpier clothes when she moved out. Although I feel bad about the shared closet I don't think buying Jill (or Jessa) a bunch of new clothes when they get married makes a lot of sense since in the Duggar family they will soon be needing maternity clothes.

[grandmadugger]

Again-

These kids should have been paid an income for the years that they have been working the family job.

Since JB kept all the money (we have no reason to believe otherwise), HE NEEDS TO BUY THEM WHAT THEY NEED TO CLOTHE THEMSELVES AS THEY EXIT INTO THE WORLD.

Cheap bastardo

JB is thinking "I'm letting Jill live in that house that's enough payment and Derick gets a WalMart discount." Which, if she wasn't on TV and only worked 40 hours a week, is about right. She's worked for them for 16 years and if she made $15 an hour that comes out to $500,000. No matter what he says that's what that house is worth. The other side of that is that anyone who worked for a company for 16 years would walk away with some departing gifts. There would be a retirement plan, some gifts from the company, ect. Jill would also have a wardrobe. She got none of that because I don't consider her wedding gifts the same.

[delightfullyduggar]

I know the have a communal closet but they have to have certain items of their own. I don't believe for a second Joy and Jinger are the same size. The girls may share some shirts and dresses but I doubt they're all the same bottom sizes. Plus they all have their own Fundie style I don't think all 4 of them like the same clothes. Some of the clothes have to be her own.

If she's anything like J'chelle she'll only own 10 tops in her future.

[Mela99]

I wonder if there is any cat fighting over outfits. I'd like to think so....

[Ella]

Ideally, I think every teenage girl should have a regularly updated wardrobe of stylish clothes of her own. In addition, she can borrow from her sisters' "own".

Getting married shouldn't have to mean making a big deal about buying new clothes if the woman is already accustomed to doing so regularly.

Parents should contribute to the cost of a teenage daughter's clothing, and the girl herself should pay part from money she earns by babysitting or other side jobs.

By the time she is working, she should cover the cost herself.

In the case of Jill and Jessa, maybe what should be done is that every item the young woman gets to choose to take into her married life from the family closet should be replaced with a new clothing item for the remaining sisters at the parents' expense. In addition, Jill and Jessa should be given an allowance to shop for new items during their engagement. Because the family closet concept will no longer apply. Don't Michelle and Jim Bob get that?

[Mama Mia]

They've stated several times on the show that the older girls all have their own clothes. I'm sure they share some, like most sisters, but they do own their own clothing. I'm not sure when they made the switch, but I would guess it was when they went from polos and frumpers to modern modest. They don't even keep their clothes downstairs like the rest of the family.

[formergothardite]

I get the impression that the days of only have shared clothes are over. Back in the frumper days I could see needing new clothes for marriage, but now, I bet they might share an outfit or so like normal siblings do, but they have their own clothes. I bought one new outfit for the honeymoon, but that was it. I don't know anyone, even in fundie, quiverfull circles who got a trousseau.