Of course CM doesn't believe in marital rape

[jerkit]

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Biblically we do not believe marital rape is possible.

 

Fantastic.

 

Somehow I think Jesus would disagree with you, CM.

 

Also of note in this post, CM agrees with Lorken that only P in V is adultery. So handies and BJs are totes not cheating because Jesus.

[polecat]

Fantastic.

Somehow I think Jesus would disagree with you, CM.

Also of note in this post, CM agrees with Lorken that only P in V is adultery. So handies and BJs are totes not cheating because Jesus.

1. I bet he'd change his tune if his wife came after him with a 12" long glass dildo.

2. I also bet he'd change his tune if his wife was offering free bjs to the UPS guy, the postman and the guy down the street.

[jerkit]

/trigger warning/

I am still seething over this. CM really believes that a husband can hold his wife down and forcibly have sex with her while she cries and says "No please no" and Jesus loves this and thinks it's part of marriage.

Before he went silent the last time, a tiny part of me thought he was reasonable and that I could engage with him in some kind of reasonable manner. Obviously, I no longer believe this. And I'm disappointed that I fell for it last time.

[Firiel]

/trigger warning/

I am still seething over this. CM really believes that a husband can hold his wife down and forcibly have sex with her while she cries and says "No please no" and Jesus loves this and thinks it's part of marriage.

Before he went silent the last time, a tiny part of me thought he was reasonable and that I could engage with him in some kind of reasonable manner. Obviously, I no longer believe this. And I'm disappointed that I fell for it last time.

Haven't read it yet because I am about to leave for work, but any possibility that he is not an abusive asshole just flew out the window. Dick weed.

[Tiger Lily]

Fantastic.

Somehow I think Jesus would disagree with you, CM.

Also of note in this post, CM agrees with Lorken that only P in V is adultery. So handies and BJs are totes not cheating because Jesus.

Not surprised at all. I also find it very convenient that he doesn't consider repeated porn use grounds for divorce especially since biblical porneia includes a wide definition of repeated sexual behavior against one's spouse.

BTW, for someone having limited to no Internet and having to resort to using his wife's cell phone, CM sure does post frequently with said posts containing LOTS of text, doesn't he? Guess he must be an excellent typist. I'm positive he wouldn't lie about something like that, right? :roll:

[Sundaymorning]

Fantastic.

Somehow I think Jesus would disagree with you, CM.

Also of note in this post, CM agrees with Lorken that only P in V is adultery. So handies and BJs are totes not cheating because Jesus.

This shows once again how fundie pick and chose the way they want to believe the bible.

Jesus, according to Matthew, also said this:

Matthew 5:27-28 King James Version (KJV)

27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

[Emme]

He's wrong. Bottom line. I don't give a flying fuck how he justifies it. This bullshit pisses me off.

:angry-banghead: :angry-banghead: :angry-banghead:

[debrand]

I am sorry. It has been a long time since I have been on Free Jinger so I can not, for the life of me, remember who CM is.

It says in 1 Peter that if a man doesn't honor his wife then his prayers won't get heard in heaven. It amazes me how so many right wing Christians demand that women follow the verses about obeying their husband but ignore the verses about respecting their wives. Rape is as far from respect as you can get.

[Firiel]

I am sorry. It has been a long time since I have been on Free Jinger so I can not, for the life of me, remember who CM is.

It says in 1 Peter that if a man doesn't honor his wife then his prayers won't get heard in heaven. It amazes me how so many right wing Christians demand that women follow the verses about obeying their husband but ignore the verses about respecting their wives. Rape is as far from respect as you can get.

Cabinetman, Ken's lackey. He's got a spin-off show.

amanhiswifethebible.wordpress.com/2014/10/09/doctrine-beliefs-part-1/

[formergothardite]

This shows once again how fundie pick and chose the way they want to believe the bible.

Jesus, according to Matthew, also said this:

Matthew 5:27-28 King James Version (KJV)

27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Saint Ken has already taught us that when it comes to THIS verse you can rely on his feelings and don't need to translate it literally. Saint Ken doesn't feel like lusting after women in his heart is the same as adultery therefore Jesus didn't really mean it the way he said it. In the Bible According to Saint Ken what Jesus really meant was "Thou may receive blow jobs from women to whom thou are not married and it will not be adultery. If the wife of thy youth is upset upon discovery the multiple women thou hast received blow jobs from, she shalt be a sinner greater than thou."

[jerkit]

I think what bothers me so much about this is what bothers me about CM in general: he says "biblically..." which implies that if you don't agree, you're not a Christian.

[debrand]

Cabinetman, Ken's lackey. He's got a spin-off show.

amanhiswifethebible.wordpress.com/2014/10/09/doctrine-beliefs-part-1/

Thank you.

[Sundaymorning]

I am sorry. It has been a long time since I have been on Free Jinger so I can not, for the life of me, remember who CM is.

It says in 1 Peter that if a man doesn't honor his wife then his prayers won't get heard in heaven. It amazes me how so many right wing Christians demand that women follow the verses about obeying their husband but ignore the verses about respecting their wives. Rape is as far from respect as you can get.

For most of these "patriarchs", their fundie cult "biblical" rules are just a justification for their horrible behaviour and their need to play the dictator around the house. It's not like they take the bible or Jesus' teachings seriously as a whole, they just pick and chose whatever serves them to "prove" their stance.

[Sundaymorning]

Saint Ken has already taught us that when it comes to THIS verse you can rely on his feelings and don't need to translate it literally. Saint Ken doesn't feel like lusting after women in his heart is the same as adultery therefore Jesus didn't really mean it the way he said it. In the Bible According to Saint Ken what Jesus really meant was "Thou may receive blow jobs from women to whom thou are not married and it will not be adultery. If the wife of thy youth is upset upon discovery the multiple women thou hast received blow jobs from, she shalt be a sinner greater than thou."

This is exactly why I can't take these fundies even seriously. It just makes me sick that so many people suffer under their twisted ideology.

[jerkit]

This is exactly why I can't take these fundies even seriously. It just makes me sick that so many people suffer under their twisted ideology.

In this case, don't worry too much about it. Lori deserves every BJ Ken gets from other women.

[debrand]

Biblically, we do not believe marital rape is possible.

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However, we also do not condone a husband taking his wife against her will and strongly state that a man should not do so.

He contradicts himself. On one hand, it does not believe that it is possible for one spouse to rape another because marriage implies that each partner is always available for sex. Yet, he also doesn't believe that a man should physically force his wife to have sex against her will.

If one spouse holds a gun to the other's head and demands sexual favors, most people would agree that the one with the gun is a rapist; however, how is that different than threatening/convincing your spouse that he/she has a duty to have sex or risk spending an eternity being tortured?

He also says

Lastly, we do not believe sex where a man and woman engage in sex while intoxicated is rape. In closing, we put equal responsibility on each party in such a situation.

How horrible. While the husband or wife is unconscious or too drunk to push the other person away, the spouse has sex with them. The pastor will blame both the victim and the attacker equally

[Letgo]

Fantastic.

Somehow I think Jesus would disagree with you, CM.

Also of note in this post, CM agrees with Lorken that only P in V is adultery. So handies and BJs are totes not cheating because Jesus.

So this would mean that if their wives met men on the sly and offered themselves for anything, except for P in V sex, it would be just fine. They should have no problem with it as it is not adultery. Right. I can just see both of them being fine with it.

[VodouDoll]

Do we know Ken got BJs from other women? Or is that conjecture based on him saying only P-in-V sex is adultery?

[Firiel]

Do we know Ken got BJs from other women? Or is that conjecture based on him saying only P-in-V sex is adultery?

Pure speculation on our part, based on the P-in-V is the only adultery explanation.

[Firiel]

So... if only P-in-V sex is adultery and therefore against God, does that mean gay folks are in the clear?

Because there aren't many* gay couples out there having P-in-V sex...

*I know that some exist due to one or both partners being transgender

[formergothardite]

Do we know Ken got BJs from other women? Or is that conjecture based on him saying only P-in-V sex is adultery?

I'm not saying Ken has gotten blow jobs from other women, I'm just saying that according to his own teachings, if he did, it wouldn't be adultery and if Lori acted upset over it for any amount of time it would be "elevating the sin".

[Grimalkin]

:cray-cray: so what is the definition of rape then? :think:

[lawfulevil]

I imagine it goes something like this:

A real-life description to me would be a rape victim, brutally raped, savaged. The girl was a virgin. She was religious. She planned on saving her virginity until she was married. She was brutalized and raped, sodomized as bad as you can possibly make it, and is impregnated. I mean, that girl could be so messed up, physically and psychologically, that carrying that child could very well threaten her life.

[DGayle]

I'm calling it now. EVERY man who doesn't believe some sort of rape is possible is a rapist himself.

[Firiel]

:cray-cray: so what is the definition of rape then? :think:

Conveniently, whatever Cabinetman says it is.