God does not support vaccines

[browncoatslytherin]

Doctor commissioning is a bit weird. They don't do boot camp or the OCS school that other officers do. They do a special 6 week school that's more tailored to being a doctor in the service.

He probably did one the following:

1) Went the the military med school

2) Had a military scholarship at another school

3) went military to pay off student loans.

IMO, He's probably a resident. Most attending are O4s (Major/Lt. Cmd) or become one shortly after residency.

full disclosure: I'm running off my memory from a few years ago when I thought I might want to do this, my memory is a bit fuzy, but I did look up the resident/attending rank thing ;), see here: http://www.militarygme.org/1.html

ooo, interesting. thankies. :D

[PennySycamore]

My OB almost certainly went through med school on a military scholarship. By the time he finished his service (3 years post-residency), he had been promoted to major. There are more specialists in the Navy and Army med corps, but many physicians in the Air Force are in family practice. I don't know why, though.

The numbers still don't add up though. Eight years for higher education and then a couple of years of residency. Law school, you're talking seven years and then becoming a naturopath, too? Bullshit!

[neuroticcat]

:shock: What blows my mind is why people who throw out the "trust Jesus" rhetoric bother to do anything at all. Why work? Trust Jesus to provide. Why take care of your health? Trust Jesus to physically heal you. Why seek medical attention? Trust Jesus. It's like they pick and choose when they can really trust Jesus and when they can not.

It also makes my head explode a bit because it completely dodges personal responsibility. I have a friend who has recently gone through a messy divorce and is now solo parenting her three kids. Finances must be tough because she is always asking for money on facebook. Which I guess is her choice. But what feels outrageous is she never outrightly asks. She never says: hey, can someone please pay for X for me? Instead she writes elaborate prayers that say: Thank you God that you know all our needs. THank you that you know we need X. And the assumption is that some friend will send her a check for X. Anyway, it feels like the same sort of thing: Trust Jesus=say you're trusting Jesus while actually doing something else but get spiritual bonus points for being more devout.

And while I suppose I get the fundie desire to Do Everything Exactly Right, I wonder that they don't implode with all the inconsistency. Okay. So you won't vaccinate because of the history with the two aborted fetuses. But do you buy clothes made by sweatshop workers? Do you eat cheap chocolate harvested by enslaved children? Do you make everyday choices that destroy the environment? It is impossible to do everything Exactly Right and while awareness helps us make choices that are in line with our own personal ethics, we cannot do everything perfectly. But the fundie ideal is perfection. Sounds exhausting.

[Firiel]

My OB almost certainly went through med school on a military scholarship. By the time he finished his service (3 years post-residency), he had been promoted to major. There are more specialists in the Navy and Army med corps, but many physicians in the Air Force are in family practice. I don't know why, though.

The numbers still don't add up though. Eight years for higher education and then a couple of years of residency. Law school, you're talking seven years and then becoming a naturopath, too? Bullshit!

Yeah, she "started college at 15." Even if that's true, that means that she graduated college (and got married) at 19. Then she did 3 years of law school, putting her at 22. Then, if she is a naturopath, that's a couple more years, at least, making her 24. She's been a SAHM for a while, though there could be some overlap. If she started having kids right at 20, though, she is no 23-ish. She could have waited a while, but they seem like they want BABIESBABIESBABIES. And she doesn't look any older than 23 or so.

It's bullshit. She is exaggerating or lying for sure. "Naturopath" probably means "took some free community classes."

[ViolaSebastian]

Oh my gosh-- this chick is like an all-natural, female version of ass-captain of the universe Matt Walsh.

Oh, and she's a super speshul genius snowflake:

livingwhole.org/i-am-a-hypocrite/

Most people who are intelligent enough to start college at 15 know that high school is two separate words.

[doggie]

why would god/Jesus want to make all of humans decisions and care for them? I mean think of the burden that would be to do for billions of people for 6000 years. why would god ever create so much work and hassle for himself?

[Coco]

why would god/Jesus want to make all of humans decisions and care for them? I mean think of the burden that would be to do for billions of people for 6000 years. why would god ever create so much work and hassle for himself?

This is why they need the elders - to decide what God is deciding for the sheeples.

[thoughtful]

:shock: What blows my mind is why people who throw out the "trust Jesus" rhetoric bother to do anything at all. Why work? Trust Jesus to provide. Why take care of your health? Trust Jesus to physically heal you. Why seek medical attention? Trust Jesus. It's like they pick and choose when they can really trust Jesus and when they can not.

Really -- why are they not truly trusting Jesus for everything?

Shouldn't they get up in the morning, hold their arms up in the air, and expect Jesus to drop clothes on them? When hungry, why don't they open their mouths and just wait for the Manna? When that magical food takes its course through the digestive system, why not just stand still and let fly, expecting Jesus to clean the floor?

Hmph -- they're hardly trusting in Jesus at all, except when it suits them.

[treemom]

The idea of an Abrahamic God as fiercely prolife amuses me.

[nelliebelle1197]

Oh gosh-- this is in her "About Me":

There's a picture of her, and she looks like she is in her early twenties. I call bullshit on these descriptions.

Off to read more crazy!

Edited because quote tags are not italics tags.

I have been in the yoga community for 13 years and have never heard of "registered" yoga teacher. The term of art is "certified"; you can register with Yoga Alliance but that does not mean you have decent teacher training or a solid yoga background; many, many people dislike Yoga Alliance intensely so paying a fee to get your name on a list because you went through a RYT200 training doesn't mean you know a damn thing about yoga. So yeah, you can't even use the right term, it makes me suspicious. At the least, she would call herself an RYT yoga instructor. I have seen that. I went through the YA database looking for "Megan" but I need more info. Anyone know a last name or location?

[doggie]

Plus the yoga and Christian thing going on right now.

[NotALoserLikeYou]

Here is a thread on some board where even more people dislike her. Her name is Megan Heimer.

pandce.proboards.com/thread/314007/megan-heimers-lies-falsifications-inaccuracies

And apparently this article was on FSTDT in July

fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=102067

[NotALoserLikeYou]

She went to a law school that is ABA accredited but is highly criticized

techdirt.com/blog/?company=thomas+m+cooley+law+school

Her husband:

quincyfp.org/gettoknowus/team_2015.html

And she may have a JD but I don't see her as having passed the bar yet in the three states she is affiliated with.

[nelliebelle1197]

Nope, nothing from Yoga Alliance:

https://www.yogaalliance.org/yogaregistry

Stick in her name. Nothin, muffin.

[Josieandtheduggarcats]

First time poster here. Had to jump in. I kinda know her. We trained and practiced at the same yoga studio. So she trained at a yoga alliance registered school but that doesn't mean she registered herself. She was a face book friend but unfriended me when I got into an argument about vaccines. So surprised to see her name pop up. Very glad to others thinking she's a bit of a nut case.

[artdecades]

I am going to go against the grain and say that she looks older than early 20s to me. She certainly has a baby face, but some of her pictures on her facebook look slightly older. Not much, but I could guess her to be in her late 20s to early 30s.

Does anyone else find it weird that she says she has 4 kids, but only has a picture of one? She also claims to have cured herself of Crohns, which is complete bullshit.

Anyway, I am trying to find out more about her (including her actual credentials and age) and I would like to share with you a few things.

From her public facebook pages:

She is totes into coffee enemas

facebook.com/LivingWhole.Org/photos/pb.512685575496884.-2207520000.1409882218./576530839112357/?type=3&theater

She plans on getting "african babies"

https://www.facebook.com/morganrameypho ... 9791291586

She contributed to the quack website naturalnews where she identified herself as a doctor.

naturalnews.com/044488_vaccine_exemptions_parental_rights_new_york_times.html

Here is a screenshot from a deleted FB post where she lists her "credentials"

https://flic.kr/p/niHTix

Google tells me Trinity College of Natural Health is an unaccredited degree mill. Naturopathic Institute of Therapies & Education has a nicer website and stronger web presence, but it still doesn't seem like a real school. First and foremost, they don't have a .edu web address. Secondly, there is pretty much no information online other than what they have put out.

http://www.geteducated.com/diploma-mill ... reditation

More on her craziness

scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/04/23/criticism-is-not-hate-speech/

scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/04/23/criticism-is-not-hate-speech/#comment-326806

pandce.proboards.com/thread/314007/megan-heimers-lies-falsifications-inaccuracies a 47 page thread on her at some message board. I think its a parenting board, I am not familiar with it. I did not read it all.

pandce.proboards.com/thread/325416/dr-megan-doubling

proboards.com/thread/312574/dr-megan-heimer

I have to say that I did not find out her age, but what I did find was wayyyyyyyy more interesting. I want to know more about the baby collecting.

[artdecades]

shes also a duggar leghumper (read the comments)

womenlivingwell.org/2009/06/i-met-michelle-duggar/

Also, wow, some of you guys found a lot more than me googling

[Toothfairy]

I'm seriously considering atheism. I hate how people take the bible and turn it into something that satisfy them

[nelliebelle1197]

Here's more on the value of her law degree:

http://law-school.findthebest.com/l/79/ ... Law-School

[KnittingOwl]

I knew I shouldn't have opened this thread. People like her make me stabby. What's worse is that someone is going to read her blog and think that it's true. :angry-banghead:

[JMarie]

Quote: I became interested in natural medicine six years ago when I was hospitalized and diagnosed with Crohn’s disease. Determined to avoid drugs, surgeries, and horrible side-effects I sought alternative therapies and a major lifestyle change; and it worked. I no longer have Crohn’s disease and have been symptom and medication free since. I’ve also recovered from candida, hashimotos thyroiditis, liver disease, gastroparesis, kidney infections, adrenal insufficiency, pituitary hypo function, polycystic ovary syndrome, a horrible skin condition, weight problems, hypoglycemia, dysthymic and postpartum depression, infertility, and more…naturally.

with...

Quote:

Young Living

I purchase all of my essential oils from Young Living. I keep lavender oil, peppermint oil, and thieves lozenges on hand at all times.

and...

Quote: We do not medicate.

I wonder if she thinks her husband is a hypocrite, because he has to medicate. It's his job. Right??

I think she looks like the babysitter, not the mom.

[NotALoserLikeYou]

Her husband is an Osteopath, a Doctor of osteopathy, and they tend to be way more holistic.

[tropaka]

Quote: I became interested in natural medicine six years ago when I was hospitalized and diagnosed with Crohn’s disease. Determined to avoid drugs, surgeries, and horrible side-effects I sought alternative therapies and a major lifestyle change; and it worked. I no longer have Crohn’s disease and have been symptom and medication free since. I’ve also recovered from candida, hashimotos thyroiditis, liver disease, gastroparesis, kidney infections, adrenal insufficiency, pituitary hypo function, polycystic ovary syndrome, a horrible skin condition, weight problems, hypoglycemia, dysthymic and postpartum depression, infertility, and more…naturally.

with...

Quote:

Young Living

I purchase all of my essential oils from Young Living. I keep lavender oil, peppermint oil, and thieves lozenges on hand at all times.

and...

Quote: We do not medicate.

I wonder if she thinks her husband is a hypocrite, because he has to medicate. It's his job. Right??

I think she looks like the babysitter, not the mom.

Wow, surprising she could have all those diseases, much less cure them by diet alone. What utter bullshit. Re her husband - he's an osteopath, so I don't even think he can prescribe. Her presenting him as a family practice doctor is like calling a chiropractor a family practice doc. Osteopathy is a complimentary or alternative treatment. It looks to me like suffers from pathological lying and probably a good dose of hypochondria.

[browncoatslytherin]

Wow, surprising she could have all those diseases, much less cure them by diet alone. What utter bullshit. Re her husband - he's an osteopath, so I don't even think he can prescribe. Her presenting him as a family practice doctor is like calling a chiropractor a family practice doc. Osteopathy is a complimentary or alternative treatment. It looks to me like suffers from pathological lying and probably a good dose of hypochondria.

maybe a HUGE dose of hypochondria. like srsly.

[artdecades]

This is her mother in law. She seems to be some sort of Christian SAHM public speaker affiliated with the Proverbs 31 group. She also looks a lot like an older version of her daughter in law, creepy

sueheimer.com/

sueheimer.blogspot.com/2009/12/meet-my-family.html

awsa.com/directory/members/heimer-sue.htm

the last link only mentions one grandchild. Again, Megan says she has 4, but only has pictures of one.

Also, some googling seems to turn up that her husband is 26-ish, so I would put her around that age as well