The Seewalds are Protestent?

[singsingsing]

There are 'high Anglicans' and 'low Anglicans' too. High Anglicans are more like Catholics, low Anglicans are more like protestants. The Anglican just has also split lately (mostly on the issue of same sex marriage). So it really depends on which individual church you go to.

[jerkit]

I am an Episcopalian and consider myself mainline Protestant.

So there's that.

[Mela99]

I think Mr. Seewald is kind of n idiot. He doesn't want any of his kith and kin following a "false prophet" like the pope, but he's happy to see his son following Jim Bob around like a modern day Moses.

#annoyedcatholic

[FoxyMoxie]

I'm Anglican. Anglicanism is strictly speaking Protestant, but many individual Anglicans would not regard themselves as Protestants. Certainly, Anglicanism when the Book of Common Prayer and 39 Articles were drawn up was definitely Protestant, but it has since become much more diverse. I myself would identify as neither really - I'm high church and possibly looking into becoming an Anglican nun (yes they exist!) but think of myself as neither Catholic nor Protestant but just simply Anglican. Anglicanism is known as the 'via media' or 'middle way' (or sometimes 'broad church') and that's more how I think of myself. I do use the rosary (the standard RC one, not the Anglican rosary), can accept the RC Marian doctrines happily, like to have the Eucharist at every Sunday service (which is considered fairly high in the CoE) - but don't like monstrances or using the Sacrament in benediction. I tend to get a bit Cranmerian over the Eucharist :D

[grandmadugger]

I think Mr. Seewald is kind of n idiot. He doesn't want any of his kith and kin following a "false prophet" like the pope, but he's happy to see his son following Jim Bob around like a modern day Moses.

#annoyedcatholic

I don't now how happy he is that Ben is following Jim Bob around. He's made several pointed comments toward Jim Bob and the people he follows. His latest blog posts calls out those who don't comment on scandals within the group they belong to. I saw this as another whack at Jim Bob not saying anything about Gothard.

[Mela99]

I don't now how happy he is that Ben is following Jim Bob around. He's made several pointed comments toward Jim Bob and the people he follows. His latest blog posts calls out those who don't comment on scandals within the group they belong to. I saw this as another whack at Jim Bob not saying anything about Gothard.

I can't imagine what he expected, though... He drove Ben there to meet a girl he saw on TV and attend a church he knew nothing about... What the hell did he expect?

I always liked Elizabeth I's comment about how it doesn't matter as long as we all worship the same God,,,

[grandmadugger]

I can't imagine what he expected, though... He drove Ben there to meet a girl he saw on TV and attend a church he knew nothing about... What the hell did he expect?

I always liked Elizabeth I's comment about how it doesn't matter as long as we all worship the same God,,,

If I knew what the hell he expected I'd be on my way to being a best selling author. I'd be writing the tell all instead of snarking of FJ. :D

I've always liked that quote too.

[neuroticcat]

Another Anglican here chiming in. The Anglican church had its own reformation - some of the events were related to the broader Protestant Reformation and others were unique to the Church in England.

In today's practice, I tend to think the Anglican Church is more of a cousin to Catholicism and even Orthodox practice because of elements of the liturgy and the sacraments that go back to the early years of Christian worship. When you compare liturgies between these traditions you find many more similarities than between an Anglican service and a non-denomination service, for instance. And Anglicans have long prioritized ecumenical dialog, so while they may retain the historic term Protestant, they have pursued unity with the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church, the Lutheran Church, etc. which is quite different from the brand of Protestantism that would say, "Catholics aren't Christian!"

Also, since Anglicanism is global, I think the term Protestant might apply in different terms based on geography. For example, the Episcopal church adopted that name vs. Anglicanism because at the time of its formation it didn't want to be identified with England in any way. So you may find certain branches willing to take on the term Protestant and others making distinctions.

**edited for errors*

[naatashamaru]

I'm Anglican. Anglicanism is strictly speaking Protestant, but many individual Anglicans would not regard themselves as Protestants. Certainly, Anglicanism when the Book of Common Prayer and 39 Articles were drawn up was definitely Protestant, but it has since become much more diverse. I myself would identify as neither really - I'm high church and possibly looking into becoming an Anglican nun (yes they exist!) but think of myself as neither Catholic nor Protestant but just simply Anglican. Anglicanism is known as the 'via media' or 'middle way' (or sometimes 'broad church') and that's more how I think of myself. I do use the rosary (the standard RC one, not the Anglican rosary), can accept the RC Marian doctrines happily, like to have the Eucharist at every Sunday service (which is considered fairly high in the CoE) - but don't like monstrances or using the Sacrament in benediction. I tend to get a bit Cranmerian over the Eucharist :D

Where do u live??? Where are u trying to be a nun?

[Mama Mia]

There are charts of the evolutioncreation of different branches at Wikipedia that are helpful in clarification.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_ ... n#Taxonomy

Well according to Wikipedia, the three divisions of Western Christianity are Catholic, Protestant and Angelican. So now you have the definitive answer :)

I've always been drawn to the Episcopalian Church. It seems to combine all the ritual aspects I love in the Catholic Church with all of the open minded, accepting of everyone but kind of sterile aspects of the Unity Church I attended as a kid.

[Rebelwife]

Well according to Wikipedia, the three divisions of Western Christianity are Catholic, Protestant and Angelican. So now you have the definitive answer :)

I've always been drawn to the Episcopalian Church. It seems to combine all the ritual aspects I love in the Catholic Church with all of the open minded, accepting of everyone but kind of sterile aspects of the Unity Church I attended as a kid.

Robin Williams said it best in his "Top Ten Reasons to be Episcopalian" - All of the pageantry - none of the guilt. :lol:

[singsingsing]

Well according to Wikipedia, the three divisions of Western Christianity are Catholic, Protestant and Angelican. So now you have the definitive answer :)

I've always been drawn to the Episcopalian Church. It seems to combine all the ritual aspects I love in the Catholic Church with all of the open minded, accepting of everyone but kind of sterile aspects of the Unity Church I attended as a kid.

I was baptized Anglican and grew up going to an Anglican church on occasion, and I loved it. There's an Anglican church right across the street from me now, and it happens to be a very liberal and inclusive one, while at the same time maintaining all the traditions that are great about Anglicanism. Not all Anglican churches are opened minded and accepting of everyone, though - you have to make sure you're at one of the official ones, not one of the breakaways who split off because they were opposed to gay marriage.

[FoxyMoxie]

Where do u live??? Where are u trying to be a nun?

Hi, I live in the UK. There are quite a few Anglican religious communities/orders here, for men or women or mixed communities. Communities of women (nuns or sisters) are the most common though.

[naatashamaru]

Hi, I live in the UK. There are quite a few Anglican religious communities/orders here, for men or women or mixed communities. Communities of women (nuns or sisters) are the most common though.

Oh cool, i live in America and i actually only have heard about monks and nuns in the Episcopal/Anglican church but kinda never knew they existed. Good luck :)

[EmeraldPickle]

I was confused. I was under the assumption that Protestant was a denomination all it's own. My uncle is a Lutheran minister and former missionary and he never once referred to himself as a protestant. My mom's side is Catholic, and whatever Native American's believe. I was also involved in the Mormon faith for a couple of years. So I come from a long line of random religious followings. I did not grow up going to church on a consistent bases. I went sometimes and never to the same one twice. I dabbled. I am now a non denominational confused faith person. Sometimes I believe there is a God up there and sometimes I feel like it's out of the realm of possibility for such things to exist.

[FakePigtails]

I was confused. I was under the assumption that Protestant was a denomination all it's own. My uncle is a Lutheran minister and former missionary and he never once referred to himself as a protestant. My mom's side is Catholic, and whatever Native American's believe. I was also involved in the Mormon faith for a couple of years. So I come from a long line of random religious followings. I did not grow up going to church on a consistent bases. I went sometimes and never to the same one twice. I dabbled. I am now a non denominational confused faith person. Sometimes I believe there is a God up there and sometimes I feel like it's out of the realm of possibility for such things to exist.

Lutheran, Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, etc. are all denominations. Protestant is a descriptor for their overall beliefs and history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ch ... testantism

[Reverend Ladypants]

Regarding Anglicans (and Episcopalians), they refer to themselves as "the via media" or the middle way, between Catholicism and Protestantism. Both/and :)

Religious scholars consider Anglicans and Episcopalians in the US to be a "mainline Protestant" denomination.

[nausicaa]

Well according to Wikipedia, the three divisions of Western Christianity are Catholic, Protestant and Angelican. So now you have the definitive answer :)

I've always been drawn to the Episcopalian Church. It seems to combine all the ritual aspects I love in the Catholic Church with all of the open minded, accepting of everyone but kind of sterile aspects of the Unity Church I attended as a kid.

Agnostic here who attends an Episcopalian church for those very reasons. It's nice to have all the rituals, the rhythm of the liturgical calendar, and the graceful, traditional architecture of a cathedral type building, while not having to feel guilty for supporting political/social stances I strongly disagree with. Hell, at this point I feel like I could "come out" to most of my friends there and tell them that I don't believe that Jesus was the literal son of God and they wouldn't even care.

[Rebelwife]

Agnostic here who attends an Episcopalian church for those very reasons. It's nice to have all the rituals, the rhythm of the liturgical calendar, and the graceful, traditional architecture of a cathedral type building, while not having to feel guilty for supporting political/social stances I strongly disagree with. Hell, at this point I feel like I could "come out" to most of my friends there and tell them that I don't believe that Jesus was the literal son of God and they wouldn't even care.

I consider myself an agnostic/deist, and I've never had any problems reconciling that with my weekly attendance at church. The liturgy, amazing music and communal prayer sustain me each week and so I go. If others feel sustained in different ways - more power to them! I "came out" to my priest a long time ago about my beliefs, and he's cool with that. My daughter was old enough to be confirmed this year and she told our other priest that she wasn't going to go through the class because she wasn't sure she believed in God at all. The priest agreed that it was a good idea to wait until she felt like she wanted to do it, if she ever did, and put no pressure on her at all.

[Four is Enough]

I was married once before Mr. Four, in a roman catholic ceremony. My annulment hadn't come through yet when Mr. Four and I decided to marry. (So no RC ceremony allowed.) We were accepted by a lovely Episcopalian pastor for discernment classes and were allowed to have our wedding there, in a full Mass. (Mr. Four is also RC. His sister is a nun.) It was lovely, the hymns were familiar, our sister the nun gave some of the readings, my niece the atheist was the guestbook attendant... and my Jewish friend and her kids were in the pews. Everyone loved it... all of the ceremony... none of the guilt. :)

[JennyMominFL]

I'm glad someone pointed out that Eastern Orthodox and Russian Orthodox are Catholic. They just aren't Roman Catholic

[FoxyMoxie]

I'm glad someone pointed out that Eastern Orthodox and Russian Orthodox are Catholic. They just aren't Roman Catholic

They're not Catholic, they're Orthodox - it's its own thing (and Russian Orthodox is an autocephalous branch of Eastern Orthodoxy, not a separate church). There are non-Roman churches in communion with Rome though, eg Greek Catholic, Syro-Malabar Catholic (mostly Indian Catholic churches). A Greek Catholic deacon read the Gospel at the Pope's institution/enthronement (not sure of the proper word sorry).

Orthodoxy is split into Eastern and Coptic and I think Syrian too? Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Romanian Orthodox etc are all part of Eastern Orthodoxy, they just have their own leaders (autocephalous = 'own head').

[FoxyMoxie]

I was confused. I was under the assumption that Protestant was a denomination all it's own. My uncle is a Lutheran minister and former missionary and he never once referred to himself as a protestant. My mom's side is Catholic, and whatever Native American's believe. I was also involved in the Mormon faith for a couple of years. So I come from a long line of random religious followings. I did not grow up going to church on a consistent bases. I went sometimes and never to the same one twice. I dabbled. I am now a non denominational confused faith person. Sometimes I believe there is a God up there and sometimes I feel like it's out of the realm of possibility for such things to exist.

Lutheranism is named for Martin Luther, so definitely Protestant! Protestant is not a denomination.

[FoxyMoxie]

Regarding Anglicans (and Episcopalians), they refer to themselves as "the via media" or the middle way, between Catholicism and Protestantism. Both/and :)

Religious scholars consider Anglicans and Episcopalians in the US to be a "mainline Protestant" denomination.

Episcopalian and Anglican means the same thing - ACNA is not part of the Anglican Communion. Also, Anglicanism varies across the Anglican Communion - for example the Church of Ireland is Anglican but very 'low church' and definitely Protestant. The 39 Articles are a definitely Protestant doctrine as well.

[JennyMominFL]

And the Eastern Orthodox Church is Catholic. It's official name is actually the Orthodox Catholic Church and a part of their statement of faith is that they are the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church