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They're engaged. Benessa's finally engaged.

About fucking time. They were waiting for a series attention getter, just like Jillard.

On another note, I am rather curious to know if BenBob proposed in a ridiculous way a la Josh or in a manner more sweet like Derick. I've got snark-itch... :twisted:

However in the same vein as the discussion ^^^ I think that it is a treat for Jill. Every other time she went out to eat was for her birthday or as a chaperone. At least on camera.

Jill and Derick seem very much in love, but they are in the "honeymoon" stage of their relationship. I respect their love because of this and that Derick isn't a nut job.

Edited because of sobriety, or lack thereof. :o

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I don't see what the big deal about "treat" or cheap spaghetti is. I do have to roll my eyes at the idea of newlyweds with no children and no schedules to coordinate because one partner doesn't work and the other seems to have a 9-5 job having "date nights." Come on. Every night is pretty much date night. There's zero effort involved in eating out at this stage in their marriage. Stop trying to sound like your parents, Jill. You make yourself more ridiculous than you already are with that nonsense.

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I don't see what the big deal about "treat" or cheap spaghetti is. I do have to roll my eyes at the idea of newlyweds with no children and no schedules to coordinate because one partner doesn't work and the other seems to have a 9-5 job having "date nights." Come on. Every night is pretty much date night. There's zero effort involved in eating out at this stage in their marriage. Stop trying to sound like your parents, Jill. You make yourself more ridiculous than you already are with that nonsense.

You make a very valid point. It's most likely for the publicity. Was the spaghetti thing for a good cause?

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Remember, Jill doesn't exactly have the emotional level of other young women her age despite being married. That will change when she has kids.

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It's at a Nazarene church. Woah.

This is the same church that they went to after josie was born.

When I was in high school the church youth group I attended was ran by a family from Arkansas. Every summer we would have mission trips and I went and stayed at friendly chapel for a week 2 years in a row.

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I'm really missing the issue about the spaghetti dinner. "Treating your significant other" doesn't have to include anything fancy or expensive. And I don't think her saying he treated her means that it's his money and not hers. My parents have been married for 30 years. Both have jobs and their money goes into the same account. However, they both "treat the other" to different activities. Like my dad is treating my mom by taking her on a cruise this week. Yes, the money belongs to both of them, but the idea was his and he did the arranging. So, he can claim he is treating her.

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I'm really missing the issue about the spaghetti dinner. "Treating your significant other" doesn't have to include anything fancy or expensive. And I don't think her saying he treated her means that it's his money and not hers. My parents have been married for 30 years. Both have jobs and their money goes into the same account. However, they both "treat the other" to different activities. Like my dad is treating my mom by taking her on a cruise this week. Yes, the money belongs to both of them, but the idea was his and he did the arranging. So, he can claim he is treating her.

My original point was that I felt sorry for her. Jill is only a few years younger than me, but the language she uses makes it sound like this is a big deal for her.

At her age I was on a solo trio around Europe for 6 months, eating amazing spaghetti in Italy, not eating cheap, mass-produced spaghetti off paper plates in my home town with my husband.

Now I'm not saying Jill, or any fundie, has to run off overseas for their life to be fulfilling. But Jill has never even had the opportunity. She will most likely never have the opportunity to really do much other than be a wife and a mother. If that is really her choice, then so be it. But given the indoctrination she has been subjected to her entire life, I wouldn't really call that her choice.

It's probably very dramatic, but I feel like Jill's entire life was summed up pretty well in that Instagram post. She will eat cheap crap with a smile on her face in some small town in the South for the rest of her life. Because Jesus.

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My original point was that I felt sorry for her. Jill is only a few years younger than me, but the language she uses makes it sound like this is a big deal for her.

At her age I was on a solo trio around Europe for 6 months, eating amazing spaghetti in Italy, not eating cheap, mass-produced spaghetti off paper plates in my home town with my husband.

Now I'm not saying Jill, or any fundie, has to run off overseas for their life to be fulfilling. But Jill has never even had the opportunity. She will most likely never have the opportunity to really do much other than be a wife and a mother. If that is really her choice, then so be it. But given the indoctrination she has been subjected to her entire life, I wouldn't really call that her choice.

It's probably very dramatic, but I feel like Jill's entire life was summed up pretty well in that Instagram post. She will eat cheap crap with a smile on her face in some small town in the South for the rest of her life. Because Jesus.

That may have been the single most pretensious and elitist statement I've read on the Internet. At least today.

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This is such a stupid thing to be mildly disappointed about, but Derick follows Fox News on Twitter? I was hoping he was secretly more liberal or something :P

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My original point was that I felt sorry for her. Jill is only a few years younger than me, but the language she uses makes it sound like this is a big deal for her.

At her age I was on a solo trio around Europe for 6 months, eating amazing spaghetti in Italy, not eating cheap, mass-produced spaghetti off paper plates in my home town with my husband.

Now I'm not saying Jill, or any fundie, has to run off overseas for their life to be fulfilling. But Jill has never even had the opportunity. She will most likely never have the opportunity to really do much other than be a wife and a mother. If that is really her choice, then so be it. But given the indoctrination she has been subjected to her entire life, I wouldn't really call that her choice.

It's probably very dramatic, but I feel like Jill's entire life was summed up pretty well in that Instagram post. She will eat cheap crap with a smile on her face in some small town in the South for the rest of her life. Because Jesus.

Whoa. Not only is it 'very dramatic', but it is quite insulting (and I say this as someone living in a large European city near Italy).

There is nothing inherently wrong with living in a small town or with living in the Southern United States. It is not for everyone, as you clearly point out. But, shock, some people enjoy a slower pace of life.

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This is such a stupid thing to be mildly disappointed about, but Derick follows Fox News on Twitter? I was hoping he was secretly more liberal or something :P

First time poster here with a question:

Is Derrick even allowed to follow FoxSpews? After all is is a 'worldly' entity and some of the hosts are women. Or since he is not ATI he does not have to live by those rules.

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It is my understanding that Derick is completing a Masters in Theology from a Dallas Baptist College and wants to do long term missionary work overseas. Jill may well not only travel a good deal but live in very interesting places.

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I am, to put it bluntly, wealthy, educated and well travelled, but I know that some of the best food on the planet is served on paper plates, by your neighbors, at outdoor festivals. That can be just as true in Tontitown as in Turin, Taipei or Trier.

If I had had the extraordinary privilege of spending 6 months in Italy in my early 20s, instead of attending grad school, working & paying off student loans, I hope I would have gained a bit more empathy and insight while doing so.

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Jill already has travelled a hell of a lot, and she has proved that she genuinely enjoys experiencing different cultures and can be an adventurous eater. She will very likely travel more in the future - both she and Derick have said they plan to. But being able to travel around the world and eating fine food for months on end is a privilege. Most people in the world are not blessed with the money, time, or health to do so, and judging someone on that is ludicrous. You can live in the same small town and eat the same boring food every day of your life and still manage to have a happy and fulfilling life - probably more happy than the snob who's rolling their eyes at you.

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Did yall see this? Jill, Derick, Ben and Jessa will be in Little Rock tomorrow 'speaking on purity and relationships'. :roll:

http://instagram.com/p/rvDmcgrs5a/?modal=true

Speaking on "purity". Now we all have been very curious about Derick and wondering if that was indeed his 1st kiss. I know it's possible to attend college and remain a virgin but we have not heard him actually come out and say it. So maybe this will be his chance to open up and discuss it with the world. Inquiring minds want to know!

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Remember, Jill doesn't exactly have the emotional level of other young women her age despite being married. That will change when she has kids.

......No, it won't. Popping out a baby doesn't magically make your emotional maturity suddenly at the level it should be. Jill is extremely emotionally immature, especially in the relationship area. It's going to be a while before she catches up to her age, or to the healthy emotional level of a married couple.

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I am, to put it bluntly, wealthy, educated and well travelled, but I know that some of the best food on the planet is served on paper plates, by your neighbors, at outdoor festivals. That can be just as true in Tontitown as in Turin, Taipei or Trier.

If I had had the extraordinary privilege of spending 6 months in Italy in my early 20s, instead of attending grad school, working & paying off student loans, I hope I would have gained a bit more empathy and insight while doing so.

I lived in Europe longer than the states, and now that we are back in the states I am quite enjoying small town life. It's slow, it's quiet, and frankly it's a lot like living in the European towns we're familiar with. Big cities are fun but crowded and noisy. Small town European fests are where it's at, lol.

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Jill is better traveled than I am, and I am worldly and financially sound.

Spaghetti dinners are fun, and somehow more yummy than "cheap crap on a paper plate". Like when your mom makes you a sandwich - it is better than when you make yourself a sandwich.

Yes it was a "spaghetti dinner" but it really wasn't about the eating, I am sure. She had a fun night with her new husband being a wife and a young woman knowing she gets to go home and snuggle with the man she loves. That does sound like a treat when the life she led not too long ago consisted of being an unpaid sister-mom and maid, and snuggling with a toddler. The food was incidental.

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......No, it won't. Popping out a baby doesn't magically make your emotional maturity suddenly at the level it should be. Jill is extremely emotionally immature, especially in the relationship area. It's going to be a while before she catches up to her age, or to the healthy emotional level of a married couple.

Giving birth not making you magically mature is a good point. When I have children (regardless of how old I am) my initial response will probably be to text my mom quite a bit for advice. Do you think Jill will be able to do that? Will Michelle care/be helpful? Or will she text Anna instead?

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