Ken and Lori: Molestation doesn't have to = divorce

[urban explorer]

There’s a case in Florida last year I think where a father comes home and catches the babysitter molesting his 11 year old son (he was 8 when the abuse started). The dad calls police and tells them to come and get this guy who he gave a serious ass whipping to. 911 operator asks what this individual said to make him believe of this abuse, father said guy had his pants down in his sons room and didn’t feel the need ask any more questions. The fathers not having any charges brought against him. The other guy confessed and was being held to make sure there isn’t anymore victims. The dad rally gave a good work over must of felt good.

I wonder thou if the dad didn’t call 911 let the guy suffer like that for a while would he be clear of any charges, glad it ended like it did.

I would like to ask the Pearls or Lori/Ken how they would of handled a similar situation.

[crawfishgirl]

There’s a case in Florida last year I think where a father comes home and catches the babysitter molesting his 11 year old son (he was 8 when the abuse started). The dad calls police and tells them to come and get this guy who he gave a serious ass whipping to. 911 operator asks what this individual said to make him believe of this abuse, father said guy had his pants down in his sons room and didn’t feel the need ask any more questions. The fathers not having any charges brought against him. The other guy confessed and was being held to make sure there isn’t anymore victims. The dad rally gave a good work over must of felt good.

I wonder thou if the dad didn’t call 911 let the guy suffer like that for a while would he be clear of any charges, glad it ended like it did.

I would like to ask the Pearls or Lori/Ken how they would of handled a similar situation.

There was a similar situation in TX a year or two ago. I think it was at an outside family party, and the father caught a man molesting his young daughter (preschool age, I believe) behind a building. The father starting beating the man and accidentally killed him. I didn't follow the story closely, so I'm not sure if charges were filed.

[moodygirl86]

Yes Mr and Mrs Fucking Monster, of course it's important for the mother in the situation you speak of to do all she can to protect the kids! That's where the divorce bit comes in, DUH! Not just monsters but thick as well.

[moodygirl86]

There was a similar situation in TX a year or two ago. I think it was at an outside family party, and the father caught a man molesting his young daughter (preschool age, I believe) behind a building. The father starting beating the man and accidentally killed him. I didn't follow the story closely, so I'm not sure if charges were filed.

This one? No, they didn't charge him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... arges.html

[polecat]

There was a similar situation in TX a year or two ago. I think it was at an outside family party, and the father caught a man molesting his young daughter (preschool age, I believe) behind a building. The father starting beating the man and accidentally killed him. I didn't follow the story closely, so I'm not sure if charges were filed.

There's probably a legal world of difference between walking in on someone in the very act of molesting your child (in which case your actions would probably be construed as defense) and deciding to take the law into your own hands after your child telling you what happened. I strongly suspect that the latter case is far more common, and those parents are better off leaving the matter to the courts. The courts don't always get it right, but I'd rather leave that to a judge and jury than to risk getting prosecuted for first degree murder and further damaging my child, even though I can guarantee you that I'd be homicidal if anyone ever put a hand like that on my child (I nearly went apoplectic after my father's wife loudly demanded that my child kiss her after he clearly stated that he did not want to).

[fundiefan]

So apparently divorce is more of a sin than molesting a child. And, molesting a child isn't the same as adultery because...it's a child?

I have zero interest in worshiping any god who thinks divorce is the worst sin a person can commit.

[littlemommy]

Lori, Ken--I think the most unpleasant thing I can think to say to you is this:

You two deserve each other.

[salex]

I wonder. Ken and Lori and some of their ilk believe a husband can't rape his wife... since he took ownership of her and all. I wonder if they think a father can't rape a child, since whatever they might do to a child is ok, since it is "their" child. That whole umbrella thing I've read about on FJ sounds like kids are handled at the whim of the parents, women at the whim of men and men at the whim of God.

Weird, but I can see people goign that way.

[ariel9]

Their response to the question proves how insane they are. What in earth is their definition of fornication? How on earth do you protect your child by living with their predator? Do you really think the police will let a convicted child predator live with a child?

[jerkit]

Their response to the question proves how insane they are. What in earth is their definition of fornication? How on earth do you protect your child by living with their predator? Do you really think the police will let a convicted child predator live with a child?

Stevie's definition of fornication is having sex with someone before marriage. It differs from adultery, which is having sex after marriage with someone who is not your spouse.

[Firiel]

Stevie's definition of fornication is having sex with someone before marriage. It differs from adultery, which is having sex after marriage with someone who is not your spouse.

Which is so stupid because fornication is just the KJV translation. The Greek word is pornea, which basically is a blanket-term that no one can 100% define meaning sexual immorality.

[jerkit]

Which is so stupid because fornication is just the KJV translation. The Greek word is pornea, which basically is a blanket-term that no one can 100% define meaning sexual immorality.

The smarts are not with the Andersons.

[Coconut Flan]

Or the Alexanders.

[Tiger Lily]

Which is so stupid because fornication is just the KJV translation. The Greek word is pornea, which basically is a blanket-term that no one can 100% define meaning sexual immorality.

Thank you. Porneia can be fornication before marriage and adultery along with other sexually immoral behaviors after marriage. Molestation definitely applies here. To advise women to remain married to a molester just boggles the mind. Lori and Ken are definitely high or insane. I also wonder if Lori's woman crush on Debi Pearl has prevented her from considering other biblical interpretations. I don't view her as someone who truly thinks for herself and I agree with another comment that many of her posts are derived from her commenters or other blogs she has visited.

[2xx1xy1JD]

It's not just a fundie thing. Experienced it personally with my own mother. My grandfather molested her, my sister, and me. Years later her husband, my stepfather, also did inappropriate things to me. When I finally told her (after the abuse stopped), we had some contrived-ass meeting where he gave me permission to yell at him for what had happened and then we were all supposed to move forward. He'd divorced her at this point for another woman but we were all still living together. It was a fucked up old time. I left home at 16 and have been distant and guarded ever since. When the stepfather died, she cried. I smiled (not even intentionally - it was just my first reaction.)

For what it's worth, he abused my mom, too - beat her, choked her, etc. Like I said, I smiled when he died.

Edit for clarity.

Trust me, I shed no tears for Evil Molester when he died.

We fantasized about what we would be to Evil Molester. There was one confrontation, where victim's siblings managed to be loud and intimidating. In the end, though, WE were simply not violent people. We weren't going to go to jail and ruin our lives. It's one thing to talk about it, but it would be another thing entirely to actually plot out how you are going to hurt or kill someone else, and it wouldn't help the victim at all. [We did cut off contact, and I also threatened the molestor's wife, Toxic Relative, with a restraining order.]

[2xx1xy1JD]

This came from one of the Pearl's earlier articles.

They haven't formally retracted their old teachings, but they have become more PR savvy over the years. The newer articles aren't quite as blunt, and they've been a bit more concerned about their image since being linked to deaths of children. I also believe that the kids and their spouses started to get involved with the website. The old articles are, IMHO, more of the pure, undiluted message that they teach.

It's possible that Lori and Ken didn't know about this article when Lori started cheerleading for them. I mean, Ken admits that he never even read the book that Lori keeeps recommending. That said, they've clearly started worshipping the Pearls, and can't ever bring themselves to actually disagree with anything that they say.

[Toothfairy]

WTF did I just read :angry-banghead:

[Loveday]

WTF did I just read :angry-banghead:

Yeah, I seem to have that reaction every time I read one of Lori's posts lately. :? :cray-cray: :angry-banghead:

[Arete]

God hates divorce, but I'll venture to say he hates child molesters even more.

Twat and Testicle should look up Jesus's allusion to millstones around people's necks.

[Coco]

God hates divorce, but I'll venture to say he hates child molesters even more.

Twat and Testicle should look up Jesus's allusion to millstones around people's necks.

This one?

[RosyDaisy]

I have this one memorized every time a fundie relatives wants to debate me about corporal punishment.

[jerkit]

Lori (sort of) answered the question about Alyssa. She thinks childless women should still be at home, but no mention of her very own daughter that works outside the home. :think:

[Koala]

On today's post about staying at home (even before you have children), Lori has a reader bemoaning how anyone could work and provide 3 from scratch meals a day.

Thank you! I have no children but believe that I should follow the word of God. It's incredible the way I'm treated, however. Friends, even Christians have made the assumption that I have nothing to do all day and there is nothing meaningful in my work as a wife and homemaker without children. But, those same people don't cook 3 meals from scratch a day so it's not odd to me that they don't understand the amount of effort and work that goes into homemaking. When I did work for a period of time, my husband hated it because we ended up eating out a lot. I have no idea how a woman with children would find the time to work out of the home - I suppose I just don't have as much energy. But I'm glad that God's word instructs me to do what I love - even if the rest of the world doesn't think much of it. I love being a wife and homemaker!! It's a dream job for me :-)

Out of curiosity I followed the link to her blog. First post? Instructional on to to bake a potato. :evil-eye: I shit you not.

ajoyfulservant.wordpress.com/2013/02/08/how-to-make-baked-potatoes/

HOW TO MAKE BAKED POTATOES

I don’t have an interesting introduction for the very simple, yet tasty baked potato so here it goes:

You will need:

Russet potatoes (I like to purchase a 5 or 10 lb bag of medium and large potatoes)

Olive Oil

Salt

Instructions:

1. Pre-heat oven to 350 degrees

2. Rinse off potato well and use a vegetable scrubber to scrub the potato; pat dry.

3. Pour a small amount of olive oil over potato (about 1 teaspoon) and rub all over

4. Sprinkle with salt

5. Heat directly on oven rack or if that grosses you out place foil on the oven rack and put the potato on the foil (do not wrap the potato in foil!)

6. Heat in oven for 1 hour. Remove and enjoy!

Serve your baked potatoes with my easy baked chicken thighs and baked carrots for a simple, frugal, and healthy meal.

Happy homemaking,

Umm, thank god she quit her job. I don't know where she'd have found the time to manage this culinary masterpiece otherwise :? :?

For those interested, the next post is a scintillating tutorial on how to bake carrots:

ajoyfulservant.wordpress.com/2013/02/08/baked-carrots/

[jerkit]

Oh hai, my name is jerkit and my husband and I eat three meals a day entirely made from whole ingredients. And I work. You know how I do it? I meal plan, I cook meals with multiple servings and I pack them in containers ready to be heated at a moment's notice. And it's delicious. *hair flip*

[alba]

On today's post about staying at home (even before you have children), Lori has a reader bemoaning how anyone could work and provide 3 from scratch meals a day.

Okay, I readily admit I would not be able to cook a meal every evening after work. This is why my freezer is my best friend. That being said, just because I'm an incompetent helpmeet doesn't mean other people (including those with children) can't manage it. My mum works 9-5 and still cooks dinner every night just as well as she did when she was a SAHM. She has to deal with annoying vegetarians, too :P