19 Kids & Courting - Duggar Snark Season 8 Part 2

[happy atheist]

Courting and engagements and awkward side-hugs!

 

Part 1: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=21383

[church_of_dog]

Courting and engagements and awkward side-hugs, oh my!

Part 1: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=21383

fixed that for ya...

[DuggarsTheEndIsNear]

During A Duggar Says Yes, everyone was confused about how Michelle reacted to Jessa saying "thank you" to Ben's compliments. I found the answer as to why that was "wrong" on homeschoolersanonymous.wordpress.com (I don't have the full link to post because I am posting from a different device; my internet is being stupid. The title is "The Many Valuable Lessons I learned in ATI: Laura's story" from 13 Feb 2014.)

"If someone compliments you on anything, from having 'bright eyes' [explained in a previous point as having emotional happiness expressed through your eyes, meaning you were full of gods love] to playing the violin in church, you must deflect the praise. The best praise-deflectors can turn every compliment into an opportunity to thank god (for the musical talent), but of course one must always praise one's parents (for paying for violin lessons) and one's teachers (for teaching so skillfully and diligently). No compliment is ever to be answered with a simple 'Thank you.' That would be prideful."

[elsabee]

Well, go Jessa, then!

During A Duggar Says Yes, everyone was confused about how Michelle reacted to Jessa saying "thank you" to Ben's compliments. I found the answer as to why that was "wrong" on homeschoolersanonymous.wordpress.com (I don't have the full link to post because I am posting from a different device; my internet is being stupid. The title is "The Many Valuable Lessons I learned in ATI: Laura's story" from 13 Feb 2014.)

"If someone compliments you on anything, from having 'bright eyes' [explained in a previous point as having emotional happiness expressed through your eyes, meaning you were full of gods love] to playing the violin in church, you must deflect the praise. The best praise-deflectors can turn every compliment into an opportunity to thank god (for the musical talent), but of course one must always praise one's parents (for paying for violin lessons) and one's teachers (for teaching so skillfully and diligently). No compliment is ever to be answered with a simple 'Thank you.' That would be prideful."

[mypsychoticself]

"If someone compliments you on anything, from having 'bright eyes' [explained in a previous point as having emotional happiness expressed through your eyes, meaning you were full of gods love] to playing the violin in church, you must deflect the praise. The best praise-deflectors can turn every compliment into an opportunity to thank god (for the musical talent), but of course one must always praise one's parents (for paying for violin lessons) and one's teachers (for teaching so skillfully and diligently). No compliment is ever to be answered with a simple 'Thank you.' That would be prideful."

That just sounds annoying. Saying "thank you" and changing the subject sounds much more humble to me, as it doesn't draw more attention to the compliment. And I really don't see what's wrong with acknowledging that skills come from hard work. Your parents can't practice the violin for you, and even natural talent won't do you any good if you don't put in any effort.

[Toothfairy]

I wonder what will happen if the courtships these season doesn't work out. I've looked up last seasons ratings and they lost a ton of viewers.

[Rescinded and Mended]

During A Duggar Says Yes, everyone was confused about how Michelle reacted to Jessa saying "thank you" to Ben's compliments. I found the answer as to why that was "wrong" on homeschoolersanonymous.wordpress.com (I don't have the full link to post because I am posting from a different device; my internet is being stupid. The title is "The Many Valuable Lessons I learned in ATI: Laura's story" from 13 Feb 2014.)

"If someone compliments you on anything, from having 'bright eyes' [explained in a previous point as having emotional happiness expressed through your eyes, meaning you were full of gods love] to playing the violin in church, you must deflect the praise. The best praise-deflectors can turn every compliment into an opportunity to thank god (for the musical talent), but of course one must always praise one's parents (for paying for violin lessons) and one's teachers (for teaching so skillfully and diligently). No compliment is ever to be answered with a simple 'Thank you.' That would be prideful."

This reminds me of FLDS prophet Warren Jeffs. After his reign of terror began, one of his many restrictions on his flock was to discourage them from giving and receiving compliments. If anyone did say something nice, you were supposed to deflect it by responding with, "Jesus inspired me!" or "It's all because of my headship that this was possible!"

I wonder if the Duggars have any idea how close they are to embracing the madness that is manifest in communities such as the FLDS.

[ILoveJellybeans]

Go Jessa, you deserve those compliments and to be able to accept them instead of deflect it to God/her useless parents.

[doggie]

Every-time god is not given credit or pisse he looses a piece of his heart. So don't let him die of a broken heart.

[Fun-Dee]

I was always told that if someone gives you a compliment you should say thank you, otherwise you are being rude to the person giving the compliment.

[DuggarsTheEndIsNear]

I was always told that if someone gives you a compliment you should say thank you, otherwise you are being rude to the person giving the compliment.

Well clearly you were raised in a worldly, heathen family. We worldly, heathen people are too prideful to know what is truly rude.

[Mela99]

Did she really tell her to not say thank you?

[Earthshine]

Did she really tell her to not say thank you?

No. She was shocked that thank you was all Jessa said.

[Trynn]

Actually, I've read that in other cultures, deflecting praise is the polite thing to do in society. However, this is America, where it is appropriate to smile and say thank you.

I have trouble with that, so go Jessa!

[Miggy]

Well clearly you were raised in a worldly, heathen family. We worldly, heathen people are too prideful to know what is truly rude.

Me too. I was taught that quietly accepting compliments "thank you" was polite and modest. Redirecting compliments was considered rude to the person giving the compliment. Denying the compliment was a ppassive aggressive way of claiming even more attention. "Oh, I'm really not that good" tends to force the other person to say "Yes you are".

I would consider it "prideful" to get up after a musical performance and say "I am so talented" but not to accept someone else saying "You are so talented." I guess this is why the fundy-in-laws consider me to not be a proper Christian.

[Mela99]

No. She was shocked that thank you was all Jessa said.

That's so damned weird.

I didn't hear Michelle saying thank you, praise Jebus that I am an attractive woman!! every time her idiot husband dry humped her, deep throated her, or complimented her.....

[doggie]

The Duggers the ultimate helicopter parents. They even employ drones to do the watching over.

[SoybeanQueen]

I can see the point that it's also polite to thank others who may have been involved in the process if you really feel they were key to it. But to have to find a way to give someone else the credit for every compliment, that's odd.

What is she supposed to say when he says she's pretty? "Thank you. Maybelline made my eyes looks larger than average." "Thank you. My parents make me do a lot of chores so I have a firm bod from the effort." "Thank you. God loves me more than the less attractive people."

I can no longer click the like button on any of your posts. You are all too prideful and you haven't been thanking everyone who had a part in creating your posts.

[Miggy]

I wanted an exact definition of prideful as I was wondering how it differed from proud. My favourite definition came from urbandictionary.com;

prideful

full of pride. not to be confused with proud. prideful is negative. whereas proud can be a good thing. prideful is in fact a real word and its first known use is from the 15th century. Although in the 15th century it was synonymous to noble. the meaning has evolved. In what ever way people chose to use this word, the fact remains that it is as word.

Prideful people assume they know what words do not exist in the English language without first checking any sources.

I'm loving the last paragraph. I'm not prideful because I looked it up! Yay me! Oh, hang on, I'm being prideful that I'm not prideful.

[twinmama]

Every-time god is not given credit or pisse he looses a piece of his heart. So don't let him die of a broken heart.

How freaking prideful is their god if he needs credit for every bright eyed look or pretty smile?

[coexist]

That's so damned weird.

I didn't hear Michelle saying thank you, praise Jebus that I am an attractive woman!! every time her idiot husband dry humped her, deep throated her, or complimented her.....

I assumed she meant that perhaps Jessa should take it as an opportunity to compliment Ben about something, sort of a precursor to giving the doe-eyed, awe-filled, joyful countenance expressions/remarks geared to reaffirm your headship of how "wunnnnnnerful" he is. Instead of just a thank you, she should've also stroked his delicate-yet-manly ego.

[DuggarsTheEndIsNear]

I assumed she meant that perhaps Jessa should take it as an opportunity to compliment Ben about something, sort of a precursor to giving the doe-eyed, awe-filled, joyful countenance expressions/remarks geared to reaffirm your headship of how "wunnnnnnerful" he is. Instead of just a thank you, she should've also stroked his delicate-yet-manly ego.

Or she was hoping Jessa would say "oh yes, I'm so fortunate that my parents were able to pass down such amazing genes to me."

[Cleopatra7]

Or she was hoping Jessa would say "oh yes, I'm so fortunate that my parents were able to pass down such amazing genes to me."

Based on the sorry state of "science" taught at the SOTDRT, it wouldn't surprise me if the Duggars have no idea what a gene is, or take the pre-19th century view that the man's sperm provides all the material needed to provide a baby, while the woman just act like an incubator.

[church_of_dog]

I can no longer click the like button on any of your posts. You are all too prideful and you haven't been thanking everyone who had a part in creating your posts.

I have "liked" your post.

:whistle:

[DuggarsTheEndIsNear]

Based on the sorry state of "science" taught at the SOTDRT, it wouldn't surprise me if the Duggars have no idea what a gene is, or take the pre-19th century view that the man's sperm provides all the material needed to provide a baby, while the woman just act like an incubator.

Assuming Jill and Jana's course work ignored that information, I'm sure that they kinda know what genes are. They might not know at all where they are located, how they come to be, etc, but you can't tell me that in all their years they've never once heard someone talk about the family's genetic traits and how they manifest. At the very least, they've heard things like "wow you have your mothers eyes" or "you have your fathers nose."