Kingdom Twindom got her cheating husband back

[duplessis3]

And for God's sake, I hope that she gets tested for VD and makes him wear a condom.

[MamaWearsPants]

The saddest part about this train wreck is that the children are the ones that will suffer the most. They are being set up for a lifetime of unhealthy relationships where men are not held accountable for misbehavior, mother will never support escaping an abusive relationship (because it’s Satan’s fault, not the man’s) and their job is to sit at home and pray while Daddy is out spreading his demon seed around town. Nice parenting lady! :evil:

[fundiefan]

Wow. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

God didn't heal her marriage the first time and he won't heal it this time, either.

The kids are the ones who will pay the price, probably in their own adult relationships.

[bea]

Did anyone see how he might have fathered another kid with a woman but the paternity test was negative? KT describes the conversation only as the woman calling her and having a "sultry" voice. NOTHING about the husband. NOTHING about his responsibility in this situation.

The more I think about this, the more crazy-making it seems. She's just going to go around and around with this guy, allow him to walk in and out of her life, walk in and out of the kids' lives, because he's never to blame FOR HIS OWN DAMN ACTIONS.

What a cop out. Unbelievable.

[Beeks]

Is she really friends with MckMama or is that a joke? If she is it makes so much sense it's sad.

[Lainey]

Word!

Ditto. It's sick.

[Guest Anonymous]

Is she really friends with MckMama or is that a joke? If she is it makes so much sense it's sad.

Not a joke. They've gushed all over one another in the past, at least.

[QueenMother]

Is she really friends with MckMama or is that a joke? If she is it makes so much sense it's sad.

Sarah asnd Jennifer McKinney are BFF's. Sarah was the one JM talked about separating when she blogged about leaving Israel.

[Beeks]

Sarah asnd Jennifer McKinney are BFF's. Sarah was the one JM talked about separating when she blogged about leaving Israel.

Wow, I'm sure that's a super healthy relationship. Ugh. Why do these women want to live with these awful abusive men?! I just don't get it.

[Chrystal-J]

Did you see the post about the $500 lie detector test she had him take in 2010? I wouldn't of wasted the $500 (I would of used it to go to the spa instead). She sounds incredibly stressed out in that post. If you're gonna stay with a man like that, you can't care what he does or you'll drive yourself insane. You just have to focus on your family, church or job and not think too much about your marriage (because you can't control what someone else does). She's on a roller coaster, that's for sure.

[Guest Anonymous]

And I ain't buyin' the sex addiction thing. I get the impression that in Fundieworld, cheating and/or viewing porn= sex addict. I admit I don't know a whole lot about sex addiction, but I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that one does not always equal the other. Without knowing all the dirty details of their marriage, it appears that "Papa Bear" is just your garden variety cheating bastard. And he will continue to be one, because he's gotten away with it twice now. I think the "Fool me once..." saying is very appropriate here.

Edited for clarity and riffles.

The bolded got me to thinking, so I went blog diving. And you're right.

kingdomtwindom.com/2010/02/one-where-i-say-lot-of-stuff.html

The truth is, Papa Bear developed a sex addiction when he was twelve years old. It never had anything to do with me. From my research I've gathered that roughly fifty to seventy-five percent of your husbands developed a similar addiction before they were twenty years old (which is why I post these things as openly as I do). Whether that addiction has confined itself to pornography or culminated in a affair, it has nothing to do with you. There are reasons, marital problems, that send husbands and wives searching for greener pastures (not that any of those reasons justify adultery), but that is not what sex addiction is about.

Not for one second do I believe that 50 - 75% of married men are sex addicts. That's some ridiculous bullshit.

And for Beeks - All about meeting her sweet friend MckMama! -

kingdomtwindom.com/2010/02/stream-of-consciousness-mckgathering.html

Prince Charming was spot on, though, and he really is very charming. I thought before, and now I'm convinced of it, that he and Papa Bear would be fast friends if we lived closer...

Yep. I just bet they would be.

[darkplumaged]

This woman sounds like a class-A idiot. I mean, really: if you're at the point where you're asking your husband, who's been cheating on you with strippers, to take a lie detector test, don't you look at the situation and realize it is FUBAR?

[lilah]

Posting on my phone, and I agree that sex addiction is a farce. I heard about a study where scientist wanted to survey mens attitudes towards porn and couldn't fin a big enough control group because almost every guy watched porn at least once a month. I agree there are people who binge on porn but to me its like people who binge eat or binge watching tv, its not an addiction just something to enjoy in moderation.

I bet he grew up in a repressive envriorment where he was made to feel guilty for having a sex drive

[Effie]

What kind of counselling are these people going to anyway? Considering she comes up with this conclusion: "It was me, or the way Satan used me, that caused those things."

Some kind of counselling through church?

[OnceModestTwiceShy]

I think sex addiction does exist, but it's very rare. I have a close friend who is most definitely a sex addict, though as with many addictions, it's not so much about the sex itself as about filling some sort of void (no pun intended). She's 25 and has had sex with at least 350 people. That's WAY beyond "promiscuity."

[Rosa]

This lady's husband might be a sex addict. But how the heck would Twindom know? because she has never once set a boundary and not let him cross it. Right now he just looks like an asshole. And I'd bet a lot of money they haven't gone to a regular therapist, either.

I know I mentioned this before, but last time we were driving through Wisconsin I heard a fundy-sounding preacher telling a caller she could go ahead and legally divorce her husband, because by cheating & leaving the husband had actually been the one to divorce her in the eyes of God, all she was doing was the paperwork. And then when he wanted to patch things up she should look at him just like a new possible relationship, not someone she had a responsibility to try to patch things up with. I was so excited! Just to hear that little bit of sanity out of one of those radio preachers.

[PaintingFool]

Anyone want to take bets how long it will take her to get herself PG in order to reel him in a bit further? Her buddy McKmama seems to have tried that with her Prince (JMHO)

[antifundie]

50-75% of men are sex addicts? What? No. If she means 50-75% of men have seen a naked woman that's not their wife--then it's low, but that doesn't mean you're a sex addict. As far as sex addiction, I'm sure it's like anything--there ARE sex addicts, but there are also people who are A) Assholes B)Jerks C) Use sex to fill an emotional need/void, etc. etc. I've known two guys who were very vocal about the amount of p*rn they watched, and how much they liked sex. Both of them seemed outside the norm of my experience with men in general, BUT I wouldn't call either of them addicts. I'm also not in a relationship with either of them, and I wouldn't be comfortable with that behavior in a partner--I wouldn't marry one of those guys, and then claim that all their undesired behavior was just SATAN. No.

That said, I *do* think that if any activity--sex, eating, exercise, smoking, drinking--is negatively impacting your life, sure, get help. You *might* be an addict--but admitting that those things are not healthy would require taking responsibility for your actions and taking steps to reduce/moderate or remove the problematic behavior.

I read bits of her blog, and I'm stunned by the lack of responsibility that either she or her husband seem to take. Her husband didn't hurt her, SATAN did. He doesn't come off as somebody who will ever say "I effed up, I need to stop and support my kids/co-parent."

And I know marriage is difficult (ok, I know intellectually--I haven't been married that long)--but I really don't think it's supposed to be THAT difficult. And her post about the possibility of the kid--that was pretty upsetting.

I know the Bible says that "God hates divorce" but I would think that maybe it means "God hates it when people hurt their spouses so much that they have to divorce to maintain sanity." And God seems to talk to her A LOT. And, perhaps not so strangely, he seems to always tell her what she wants to hear.

[Guest Anonymous]

And God seems to talk to her A LOT. And, perhaps not so strangely, he seems to always tell her what she wants to hear.

The "I have an actual back and forth conversation with God" thing is pretty weird to me. Once God told her to leave her prescription medication at home when she travelled out of state.

kingdomtwindom.com/2010/02/he-healed-me-part-2.html

"Oh Lord!" I cried, "I almost forgot my prescriptions!" I thought with absolute terror of how awful it would be to go away from home without them and get stuck in Tennessee, camping, with a migraine. As I frantically raced to pack them, the Lord, for the first time that night, answered back*.

*Never in my life has He spoken so clearly to my heart. If I didn't have friends sleeping soundly, just a few feet away, I would have sworn the voice was audible.

"No child," He said, "Get back in bed."

"But Lord, no, you don't understand, (yes I actually said that!) my prescriptions not my pajamas!"

"I know, get back in bed."

What followed was a terrible sinking feeling. He wasn't telling me to wait until later; He was telling me not to take them with me, period. I was almost positive that I could convince Him otherwise by morning (seriously), and I began to silently work out a plan.

"I know Lord! I could put them in the bottom of my suitcase. I wouldn't even remember they were there, I swear! Not unless I really needed them."

With what I can best describe as sarcasm, the Lord said, "Oh Sarah, that act of faith would really bless me."

"Fine" I said, slightly put off, and I rolled out of bed to get in the shower.

By the time I had showered and dressed, I was in an inexplicably good mood...ear to ear smiles that I couldn't wipe away for anything. Still in pain, but euphorically happy, I walked into my bedroom to wake three of my girlfriends who had stayed the night in preparation for an early morning. Only somewhat kidding, I looked at them and said, "The Lord told me not to pack my prescriptions. I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to listen to Him or not."

I was definitely hoping they'd say, "Oh no, that wasn't Him, He wouldn't have told you that." But instead they said, "Well, I guess you'd better listen." (The queens of pure mercy, all three of them!)

If God doesn't talk to you - apparently you're doing it wrong. Or not listening, or something. Any other Christians care to weigh in on this? I'm not asking out of snark, I'm genuinely curious. Because when people I know in real life commune with God this isn't the way they say it happens. They pray and read the Bible and maybe they have a feeling or something, but God doesn't say - "You there, don't eat sugar!"

kingdomtwindom.com/2010/10/god-satan-my-own-insanity-whos-speaking.html

I'm still off of sugar because I know that the order came from God. I stayed in a hopeless marriage because God promised me He'd fix it. I pass notes in church that say things like, "God just said such and such about you, and I was pretty sure you'd want to know." It's the little things and the life-changing things that He cares about, and I'm equally excited to hear from Him about both.

Even though I do know that I hear from God, I also understand the hair-pulling frustration of wanting and needing to hear from Him and then hearing.....nothing....crickets chirping. And sometimes I'm waist deep in His Word and completely enveloped in the fellowship of believers when this happens. Most of the time, though, the silence is entirely my fault.

If you, like Nicole, are suffering through silence, I urge you to keep pressing in. Immerse yourself in His Word (He doesn't always want to repeat Himself, and most of what He's going to say has already been written down). And then ask God to reveal to you exactly how He's spoken to you in the past (because I guarantee that He has). Does He speak to you in visions or day dreams? Does He speak to you though Scripture? Do you hear His voice? And, if so, what does it sound like? Is He more likely to speak to you in church or in the shower (for me, it's definitely the shower)? Knowing how He's spoken in the past (if you're anything like me) will help to clear up your current communication.

[Shirley MacLaine]

My grandmother has actual conversations with God and God tells her to do stuff. 'I was just talking to God the other day, and he said [whatever].' He tells her all kinds of weird mundane shit, too. One time God told her to watch Real Time so she could understand how lost and sad Bill Maher is.

She's totally crazy, though.

[Austin]

One time God told her to watch Real Time so she could understand how lost and sad Bill Maher is.

See, that's exactly why I watch Real Time, too! :D :lol: :D

[antifundie]

You know, I don't think that God talks to me. However, (I consider myself a Christian)--there have been 3 times in my life when I felt a divine presence--once when I was going through something really hard--I had a distinct feeling of being protected by God (the actual mental image was something like the Allstate hands--that I was in them)--but there were no words, it was a "you're not alone" type feeling. The second time was when I decided to go to grad school (and move away from a bad boyfriend)--it's hard to explain, but I don't always follow through on things, but in that case, it was like somebody or something was helping me along to get the apps done, get emails written, etc. I don't know that I knew it at the time--but looking back, I feel like I had "help" you know?

The third time was the day I finally broke it off with the bad boyfriend--I had never had that emotional strength before and I haven't had it sense, but I woke up that day with a sense of purpose, that it was the day to break things off and it seemed easy, when before it had seemed insurmountably hard. Weird, but awesome.

So, yeah, I do believe that God/God the Mother or the universe or whatever can help you out or push you along, but for me it wasn't about words--it was about strength to follow through on things I wanted in the first place, but that I didn't think I'd have the power to do on my own. And I don't think Satan really played into it at all.

[Guest Anonymous]

antifundie - What you describe is what I'm familiar with my believing friends saying they've experienced, and similar to what I would say I have felt myself. I have Christian, Muslim, and Buddhist friends and family and they all seem to agree that hearing *voices* is uh, a little crazy.

[Deleted03]

antifundie - What you describe is what I'm familiar with my believing friends saying they've experienced, and similar to what I would say I have felt myself. I have Christian, Muslim, and Buddhist friends and family and they all seem to agree that hearing *voices* is uh, a little crazy.

hearing voices... and having a discussion with voices!!! I think the discussion part is the freakiest...

[booksnbeats]

hearing voices... and having a discussion with voices!!! I think the discussion part is the freakiest...

Not to mention that God was giving her sarcasm. Not only does God talk to you, sometimes he is even like "bish please" :lol: