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I apologize in advance if I am not quite coherent!

I just discovered through FB that my uncle (by marriage, thank the FSM) is on the board of "Life Choices Center", an organization that is "here to help" women with unplanned pregnancies (his stupid ass grin is in a number of pictures at the "Grand Opening" of their newest center).

Big fucking surprise, it's another organization run by fundies that claims to offer "a safe, confidential place to discuss your options" - as long as abortion isn't one of them! :angry-screaming:

They even have a new twist on the old garbage - if you attend their "Smart Choices" program for parents, they'll give you "points" to "spend" in their Baby Store. This is from their site (bolding mine):

For example…

Let’s say a client named Brandy shows up on time for her appointment with her mentor, Anna, and together they complete a lesson on nutrition during pregnancy. Brandy also turns in a homework assignment from the previous week’s lesson on breastfeeding, and they discuss Brandy’s progress toward her goal of quitting smoking. All this would result in Anna giving Brandy a paycheck for around 150 points. In the Baby Store, 150 points would buy three new outfits, or a new high chair, or 75 diapers, or two cans of formula and a package of baby wipes. Or, Brandy may choose to keep those 150 points to put toward a new 1,000-point crib she’s saving up for.

Not only does "Brandy" have to attend their program, she has to do homework to get a couple of cans of formula and some wipes? WTF? :pull-hair:

For more wonderful ideas and crazy bullshit, visit lifechoicescenter.org/ . Their FB page is public, and can be found here: facebook.com/LifeChoicesCenter?ref=stream&hc_location=stream

Unfortunately, their website doesn't allow comments, but their FB page DOES. I am currently unable to post to the page, because I don't have an anonymous FB.

I knew my uncle was a douchebag asshole, but didn't realize he had slid this far! :music-tool:

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You have my sympathy. My fundie inlaw is political, has in the news internationally for stances and ummmm, "strides' he's made (most of which were undone, happily) and is on the board of a dominionist / religious/political group that is getting ever more publicity. He has never said it around me, but his adult daughter said a year ago that "his political career is his ministry" which is part of what made me look into dominionism, fall down the rabbit hole and lose all hope for humanity (the last bit is a minor overstatement, most of the time.

I feel your pain.

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These things shouldnt be conditional! Yeah, giving diapers, formula and baby wipes to a pregnant woman who is in poverty is a nice thing to do (although helping someone raise a child is more than just that), but making them earn it through taking classes and doing homework is not good. Good deeds should not be conditional.

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Check out the "Reasons For Choosing Abortion" they list, along with their "answers":

1. I can’t possibly have a baby now. Abortion is my only option.

If you’re pregnant, it’s important to know that you do have options. None of them are easy, and all of them will impact your life in a major way. No matter what your current life situation, having a baby would totally change it! The good news is that there are a lot of organizations out there to help — including Life Choices Center. Government organizations, churches, and local charities can help with food, medical care, and baby sitting.

Text/call xxxxxx or email xxxxxx, and we’ll be glad to connect you with help in the xxxxx, NY area.

Another option you may want to consider is to make an adoption plan and place your child with a loving adoptive family. Adoption can be a very difficult decision — but what an unselfish, admirable choice! For the rest of your life you can know that you gave your child the chance at life and a positive future.

2. My boyfriend/husband wants me to have an abortion.

Lots of people in your life might have opinions (strong opinions!) about what you should do with your pregnancy. But ultimately, no one will feel the effects of your choice as much as you will. It’s your body, your baby, your life, your decision. If your boyfriend or husband really truly loves you for who you are—not your body, not the way you make him feel, not the things you do for him—he will stick by your side and respect your decisions

3. It’s not a baby yet. It’s just a blob of tissue.

[/You might be surprised to know that at the instant of fertilization, when the egg and sperm meet, all the genetic information is present for every detail of the newly created life — hair color, eye color, gender, height, even shoe size! That’s a complicated “blob of tissue!†In many states, when a pregnant woman is murdered, the killer is charged with two counts of murder. Why count a “blob of tissue†as a life? You will hear all kinds of opinions about when a fertilized egg becomes a baby, but opinions aren’t facts.i]

4. I didn’t want to get pregnant. I just want to undo it.

To many women, abortion seems like the quickest and simplest way to get rid of a problem. Unfortunately, even though our society makes it look that way, abortion isn’t simple at all. While the physical risks are relatively low, for many women, the experience causes long-lasting emotional damage. To hear stories from women who experienced abortion, watch our four-minute video.

Now that you are pregnant, you cannot simply undo it. Fortunately, you don’t have to face this alone. Those of us at Life Choices Center are here to support you however we can.

5. My parents will kill me if they find out I’m pregnant.

You’re probably right that your parents will be upset — okay, really upset. But will they really kill you? Have they ever killed anyone before? It might be very difficult to tell your parents that you’re pregnant. But still, you are their child, and your baby is their grandchild. Even if they’ll be shocked and disappointed, don’t you think they’d want to know? We have helped a lot of people who think their parents will kill them, and then are surprised when their parents turn out to be their biggest supporters.

Yep, those are the ONLY reasons any woman EVER considers an abortion! :angry-banghead: :angry-banghead:

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Oh fuck, the more I read on their site, the sicker I feel... :puke-huge:

Under their "true stories" from three "friends" of Life Choices:

When I got pregnant my husband and I were having a lot of problems. I waited until almost the end of my first trimester, half hoping that things would work out and we could have the baby. But things didn’t work out, and I thought abortion was the best solution for my problem. In a way, it did take care of the problem. I wasn’t pregnant anymore. Afterward, I felt relieved. I thought I was fine. But I wasn’t fine. The abortion affected me more deeply than I ever could have imagined. One of the worst effects was with my daughter who was born three years after my abortion. Until she was a teenager I wasn’t able to connect with her. I even hated her at times. After many years, I finally found healing and freedom from my abortion, and now my daughter and I have a great relationship. But it took a long time to get there. Too long. If I had known all the emotional pain that would result from my abortion, I never would have made that choice.

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They should be teaching them that they can get formula for free from WIC.

But but but, socialism. It's bad. Bootstraps, good! Besides, they only care about the feti!

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But but but, socialism. It's bad. Bootstraps, good! Besides, they only care about the feti!

So it's extra credit to cover a C-section? OR....Medicaid?

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"but what an unselfish, admirable choice! For the rest of your life you can know that you gave your child the chance at life and a positive future."

This is not pressuring them to put the baby up for adoption at all. :roll:

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"but what an unselfish, admirable choice! For the rest of your life you can know that you gave your child the chance at life and a positive future."

This is not pressuring them to put the baby up for adoption at all. :roll:

I can be quite pro-adoption, but it does bother me when people believe that moving a baby from current poverty to currently middle class is all it takes to have a "positive future" Yes, a two-parent family with a solid educational background and good jobs can give the child more material things, and the child will not start out in the hole. But to think adopted kids are never abused is ridiculous, as we all know here.

And, as the last test to the economy proved, middle class people can lose jobs, too. Educated people can become unemployed or be delivering pizzas.

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I wonder if this place is where Raquel got her idea of "Life Choices" her story about abortion?

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But but but, socialism. It's bad. Bootstraps, good! Besides, they only care about the feti!

In my experience (limited to 2 crises pregnancy centers in my town), these. Centers don't have a problem with governmental assistance for the women they talk to. They were a really big referring source for the social services program I worked for ( non-profit, but providing government funded services ) and know they made sure to send people to housing agencies, TANF, Medicaid, WIC etc.

Eta: they could be offering the formula as a back-up for relief bottles for a mom who will be primarily breastfeeding.

Very weird though the value they placed for the formula compared to the other prizes. I guess it can be very expensive though.

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I've seen this model at other CPCs, including one DimBulb endorsed awhile back. At the one in my area, they apparently offer parenting classes--I wonder if they tell women that babies are out to manipulate you from Day 1 and need to be "trained" a la Pearl/Ezzo? :roll:

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The crap they promote is disgusting.

Their "information" on abortion starts with this little tidbit (bolding mine):

Before you decide to get an abortion, you have a right to know the facts. We hope the information in this section will help answer your questions about abortion. If you want to talk to someone in person, please text/call us at xxxxxx. We’re not here to judge you or make your decision for you. We’re here to listen, support, and inform. We’re here to help.

Abortion for many women is a life-changing event with significant effects—physical, emotional and physiological. Many women who struggle emotionally with past abortions say that they wish they had been told all of the facts about abortion and its risks. So be good to yourself. Get the facts before you decide, and make an educated decision.

That's just the beginning of their nonsense...

I SOOO want to make a direct comment, but right now there are too many other issues affecting our family to bring this into the mix. :angry-banghead:

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Lots of people in your life might have opinions (strong opinions!) about what you should do with your pregnancy. But ultimately, no one will feel the effects of your choice as much as you will. It’s your body, your baby, your life, your decision. If your boyfriend or husband really truly loves you for who you are—not your body, not the way you make him feel, not the things you do for him—he will stick by your side and respect your decisions

Are these people really trying to lay claim to "your body, your choice"?

Funny that women should expect those who love them to respect their decisions... unless they choose abortion, I guess. Somehow I don't think these people would encourage a loving partner to accept abortion as a choice to be respected.

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And your parents will TOTES not kill you! I remember reading a letter to Dear Abby from a former Planned Parenthood counselor; a 13-year-old girl had come in saying, "My dad will kill me," and the counselor told her, "No he won't, I'm sure he'll be upset, but he'll come around." He ended up beating her to the point of miscarriage, putting her in the hospital for a month, and she ended up in foster care. The counselor resigned from PP afterward. :cry:

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