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Social Security and Supplemental Security Income are two entirely different programs that happen to be run by the same agency. It is not Social Security Supplemental Income. So no if they never work and never marry the first poster is right and they will never receive Social Security. They may qualify for Supplemental Security Income (welfare) which to them should be a truly ebil gubmint program if they have extremely low or no income or resources.

Sorry hit one of my pet peeves in life.

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That is not entirely true. I'm assuming that because they are SAHDs they have no college education?

If they get to retirement age with both no work experience and no post secondary education , they would likely be automatically approved for Social Security Supplemental Security Income.

I really don't think there are any government income support programs that are based on level of education. And as the other poster said SSI and Social Security are different programs.

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ahthelife.blogspot.com/2007/09/ourbucks-prosumerism-and-retail-estate.html

Quote: Rather than building the vision of the owners of Starbucks, who openly denounces the magnificent creations of God and God Himself while promoting false religions & sodomy on their cups...

Can anyone explain how Starbucks is promoting sodomy? This is a new one for me.

Shoot, I stopped at Starbucks yesterday for a sandwich and coffee. I didn't realize what I was helping to promote this. :lol:

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Huh? :think: How is earning an income, spending money and helping capitalism grow being a "societal burden" and not a wise choice or responsible use of talent and ability. I love to write and now that's my job. My talents are now useful to many people. I'm paying back now what I've paid in, doing useful things with my life. You all on the other hand are living off your parents without any job skills or education and you call working women burdens to society? :hand:

One of the reasons why my husband and I didn't become "societal burdens" while he was unemployed for over two years was because I still had my job and was able to keep things going financially. And incidentally it's for situations like this is one of the reasons I went to college and stayed in the workforce.

How a wife going to work to support the family makes for becoming a societal burden, when it can do the exact opposite is beyond me. And especially coming from 2 women who are still living off their parents in their '30s and are going to be royally screwed when 1) prince charming doesn't show (and it's not looking good, folks) and 2) parents are no longer around. Now if they both actually went to work, even right now, they would improve their own prospects for financial survival even if they wind up as two old ladies living in the family home. Though with their crazy out there online and no education/job skills at their ages, it's going to be a challenge for them to land even a menial job.

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Social Security and Supplemental Security Income are two entirely different programs that happen to be run by the same agency. It is not Social Security Supplemental Income. So no if they never work and never marry the first poster is right and they will never receive Social Security. They may qualify for Supplemental Security Income (welfare) which to them should be a truly ebil gubmint program if they have extremely low or no income or resources.

Sorry hit one of my pet peeves in life.

Thank you, Abigail for clearing that up. I thought that was the case but started to have doubts. I know I've been getting my SS information in the mail since I turned 50 and it tells me how much SS I will be receiving according to the amount I have worked and earned. My mother has a friend in her 70's who is not eligible for SS because she has never worked and contributed, however she does have rental properties so she does have an income. Just as a side note: my mother has another friend who is getting 2 different pensions plus wages from her present job (she is 78) and is now making more money than she ever did. She worked for a newspaper for 20 years, then changed to the police department as a dispatcher for 20 years and then she got a job at the race track. She keeps talking about retiring but she is have too much fun at her present job!

But back to the topic. How awful will that be if these SAHDs become so destitute they have to apply for welfare? That won't be a picnic if they are used to a middle class lifestyle and it is so much harder to adapt to new circumstances as you get older. I really, really hope there is some long-range plan.

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Yeah dad, very grown up shirt. Methinks he forgets he was once a young man at one time.

I was thinking he remembers quite well the amoral horndog he was once.

I remember Bringing Rebecca Home. Well, if that is what she truly wanted to do, good for her. However I think the fundie crashing of the office was a distraction, and I can't imagine her boss being very happy about it.

I know that I would be royally pissed if someone quit without notice for no good reason. (I consider winning the lottery to be a good reason.) All of my employees are essential to our work and finding a replacement can take weeks, if not months.

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And for a serious dose of cognitive dissonance, go to December 11, 2007 on ahthelife.blogspot.com, where the Misses Kelly and Andrea have posted a long article entitled "The Cost of Delaying Marriage."

It does. not. compute...

Has that post been scrubbed now? I went to that date and there is nothing. So I searched the title and had no results.

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ahthelife.blogspot.com/2007/05/belated-history-of-world-mega.html

This entry is pretty rich...

"How the grandchildren will be raised" is a constantly reoccurring topic in our family's table talk. Each of us bringing ideas to the table as we come across them in lectures and sermons and in what we have witnessed in others to add to our father's vision for a ranch full of grandchildren.

Exactly what grandchildren, again?

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oh wow, this thread has reminded a bit of the Girotti women. They are found on Mountain Musings which their mother writes. They are both 25 and older and are "in charge" of things like cooking, canning, the yardwork, baking for the farmers market they attend, and making baskets that they sell with their grandmother. It makes me so sad that at their age they are not independent, making money instead of cooking for their mother and father. For those who don't know them, there are four children in the family and the boys have left. What do they think they will do when prince charming doesn't drop out of the sky? Does these people EVER question what has been sold to them?

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What I meant was that they won't have to depend on charity of others, since the government has thought of that. There is a clause that makes a person who is 60 with no education or work experience disabled and eligible for SSI with almost no other requirements.

It's one of the GRID rules. A person who is capable of some work but of advanced age , no work experience, and has limited education will be found disabled and eligible for SSI.

The rule was created so that women that were not married and eligible for their husbands account don't end up on the street if their partners die suddenly.

I don't consider Social Security Income and Supplemental Security Income different programs. They are different ways of qualifying for one umbrella program. Social Security. Calling only the earned program Social Security is misleading. Social Security is both programs together. The stigma of welfare is the only reason people get all huffy about separating them.

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ahthelife.blogspot.com/2007/05/belated-history-of-world-mega.html

This entry is pretty rich...

Exactly what grandchildren, again?

That's rather sad, really. That's their entire goal in life and it won't be fulfilled.

Unless they think they'll be like Sarah and God will miraculously open their wombs when they are in their 90s.

Do Andrea and Kelly have any other siblings? They have pictures of a lot of different people, including children, but who these people are I can't really tell (church friends? cousins?)

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Okay, this is a sad quote they post recently:

[My] dear son and daughter, you need not consider praying for a pious spouse a disgrace, For you do not consider it a disgrace to ask God to give you a sound hand or leg...Now a pious spouse is as necessary as a sound hand or leg. For if a husband or wife do not turn out well, you enjoy few good days or hours and would prefer to have a paralyzed hand or leg instead. -Martin Luther, What Luther Says

I'm 29 and have been married over 4 years now, but I suppose my marriage is bad because my husband and I dated and lived together before getting married. I also never had to pray that I'd find a spouse.

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These are pretty sad, too:

THERE may be times when we feel as if we knew not what we are waiting for. There may be other times when we think we do know, and when it would just be so good for us to realize that we do not know what to ask as we ought. God is able to do for us exceeding abundantly above what we ask or think, and we are in danger of limiting Him, when we confine our desires and prayers to our own thoughts of them.

Dear soul, in waiting on God you may often be ready to be weary, because you hardly know what you have to expect. I pray you, be of good courage—this ignorance is often one of the best signs. He is teaching you to leave all in His hands, and to wait on Him alone. 'Wait on the Lord! Be strong, and let your heart take courage. Yea, wait on the Lord.'

'My soul, wait thou only upon God!'

Now, none of this was written by Kelly or Andrea, but it's sad to think where their thoughts are.

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I've been out of work for two years, despite multiple advanced degrees, and live with my parents. My situation makes me depressed a lot, but reading about these SAHD makes me realize how much worse this could be. All it takes is a crazy dad getting turned onto radical religion, and a girl/woman can go from leading a normal life to waiting for the Prince Charming who will never show up.

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Has that post been scrubbed now? I went to that date and there is nothing. So I searched the title and had no results.

Weird. I actually found it on the Ah, the Life FB page, the link is right at the top. When I click on it, here's where it takes me:

ahthelife.blogspot.com/2007/09/cost-of-delaying-marriage.html?showComment=1362497349910#c4126950647666973134&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

Sorry for the confusion...

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That post is from September, 2007, not December. I had to search for it.

Bad librarian, bad librarian... :angry-banghead:

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The Ah the Life girls were always of interest to me, especially their "Bringing Rebecca Home" entry, which seems to have been quite popular within fundie circles. I think they were the first people who introduced to me the idea of SAHD and "wage slaves". What baffled me was how could two decent looking SAHD whose sole goal was to be wife and mother still remain unmarried into their 30's? All that talk about grandkiddies and courtships seem for naught because no one is good enough for daddy's little girls.....

I actually thought Rebecca looked like a nice woman who was embarrassed by all the attention. I don't think there's wrong per se about a group of friends surprising you at work as long as it wasn't disruptive and/or you got the boss' permission. It sounds like the description of "wage slave" and "slave camp" was what irked people, because the majority of people in this country have bosses and work for a salary. I did find it baffling that Rebecca voluntarily left her job, despite having no kids and (it seems) the couple's tight finances. I am OK with this as long as they don't take welfare, but it just seems so unnecessary to have a SAHW when the money is needed.

As for Ah the Life girls, I figure since they technically work for the family business, their father reports them as receiving a salary? This allows for some work history and social security money later on. At this point, I'm not sure if the two ladies believe they will get married or have kids. I wonder if the father's made a connection between his constant NO of potential suitors and his dreams of a "ranch of grandchildren"? I mean, he does realize with each "NO" he is moving further away from his "multi-generational" vision? Too bad he doesn't have any sons. These isolated fundies tend to be far more lax with their sons choosing a wife than with their daughters finding a husband. I see it as a type of Darwin's principle at work.....the more isolated they become, the smaller chances of passing on their genes. It's actually God's way of keeping the crazy out of the human race.

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oh wow, this thread has reminded a bit of the Girotti women. They are found on Mountain Musings which their mother writes. They are both 25 and older and are "in charge" of things like cooking, canning, the yardwork, baking for the farmers market they attend, and making baskets that they sell with their grandmother. It makes me so sad that at their age they are not independent, making money instead of cooking for their mother and father. For those who don't know them, there are four children in the family and the boys have left. What do they think they will do when prince charming doesn't drop out of the sky? Does these people EVER question what has been sold to them?

The younger of the two sons is actually still at home, but he is a "wage slave" with a real job. So is the father.

The "girls" will never leave home until they get married. Their lives actually seem pretty cushy: they live in a very nice house, they have beautiful gardens, they aren't responsible for helping with or homeschooling younger children, their parents are fundie but don't seem super-crazy... there isn't much incentive to leave if they don't meet anyone, and they sure as heck don't seem to make much of an effort to meet anyone. They do attend a lot of conferences, but photos they post always show the men talking with men and the women with women. :roll:

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Weird. I actually found it on the Ah, the Life FB page, the link is right at the top. When I click on it, here's where it takes me:

ahthelife.blogspot.com/2007/09/cost-of-delaying-marriage.html?showComment=1362497349910#c4126950647666973134&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

Sorry for the confusion...

Got it! Thanks!

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I guess but what baffles me is how a woman in their mid twenties is responsible for things her PARENTS should be doing. Why should they be living at home doing things at home with no younger children around? That family fascinates me because the parents do seem more "normal" than the others but then they have limited their daughters futures/education/options. They travel to all of NCFIC's conferences but don't seem to make any connections for their children.

I will never understand the SAHD. I look at my 18 month and wish the world for her whatever that may be.

Their version of Christianity is twisted and sick.

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I know that I would be royally pissed if someone quit without notice for no good reason. (I consider winning the lottery to be a good reason.) All of my employees are essential to our work and finding a replacement can take weeks, if not months.

It sounds like she planned to quit, but whether or not it was with notice, I am not sure. The fundies marching into the office and escorting her out, now that I am not sure she expected that, she looked rather embarrassed but went along.

I agree that it was a distraction to the rest of the office and a needless one at that. They could have done some other "celebration" that didn't involve marching in there. I am sure her fundie friends really felt important that they "stick it to the man" by doing that. Unfortunately, if Rebecca ever needs to find another job, this gem of a blog entry will be out there for a prospective employer to see and frankly if I was a hiring manager and saw that, I wouldn't hire the person. I am all for religious freedom, but I would have concerns about this person's attitude toward their work and being associated with a group that's willing to go into and disrupt places of business.

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  • 2 years later...

I'm bumping this thread as I visited the Ah, the life blog for the first time in years. I noticed that there is now only a photo and mention of Kelly in the sidebar. What happened to Andrea?

 

 

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