19 Kids and Counting - All Things Duggar Family - Part 5

[laura oz]

I'm in the minority here because I really prefer a male OBGYN. The women I've seen have been rough giving pelvics and when I had endometriosis the female GYN I saw originally actually said "Oh, your periods can't be that bad" when I told her the pain made me throw up and the only relief I had was sitting on the toilet to let everything sort of hang out (gross, but it helped me). My mom took me to her GYN who was male and he was so caring that he changed my mind on only seeing a woman. That said, my babies were delivered by women and they were outstanding. Truthfully, anybody who could have gotten those kids out of me and ended my torture was a hero to me.

[Rita]

I had ok experiences with female NPs at a women's college, but the emotionally worst exam was a female ER doc. Physically worst? The male GP who missed that my uterus was solid - tumor - and thought the other symptoms were not indicative of anything. Now, I have a male oncology surgeon as my gyn, and I've learned to prefer males for one reason. The female chaperon. He has to tell the her out loud what to transcribe. That's it. If he whispers to her, I know something's up before they are ready to tell me.

Ok, back to the Duggars. Poor women. It's important to know about your body, and how it functions. If all they are getting is old wives' tales, and if Jill is allowed to tell them what her books say, I would be very fearful of doctors.

[diddykong]

I'm glad your baby is okay!

Thanks ! I was glad my midwife stayed during the surgery, and that the doctor had the skill to get my baby delivered and resuscitated quickly.

I think that skill level is more important than the providers gender.

[pega127]

for me, what's worse than "she did good" is when dimbulb says "we should have went" and "they could've came". (shudder)

Just back from reading TheDuggarFamilyBlog by Lilly and Elly or whoever- at the top of their latest post about a new hospitality book out by the hospitality queen herself-Mrs. Michelle "I have no idea who Martha Stewert is" Duggar the first sentence is this: We used Grammarly to grammar check this post because good grammarly makes for a happy fammerly.

Hmmm...could it be that sweet Lily and Elle come here and saw a short time ago there was some discussion about the Duggars and grammar???

[EmmieJ]

But see that is just a personal experience. You had one bad experience with a male and therefore think that a female will have empathy or experience with a 'female' issue because they are female. Not always the case. My one bad experience was a female for instance. But I would say generally having seen quite a few of both sexes over the years it is down to how good they are as a doctor rather than their biological make-up.

I don't disagree. I don't think a female gyno will necessarily have empathy, but I do believe she has a much greater chance of understanding what I'm describing when it has to do with my female genitalia and/or issues re same. I fully accept that I'm not using a good scientific basis for my preference. But I certainly feel much more comfortable with a female gyno than I ever would with a male gyno.

[sheltonLE]

I'm in the minority here because I really prefer a male OBGYN.

I'm with you! When it was about time to see an OBGYN for the first time (around 14 years or so) my mom took me to her doctor and he is just the best. He's the kindest, most professional and calm person you've ever seen, he just has that aura that lets you relax immediately. I think it's fun that he treated my mom when she was pregnant with me and now I am 23 and I am sitting on the very same chair, lol.

Seriously, he's so great, I am almost tearing up when I think about the fact that he's probably going to retire in the next 2-3 years....there are people in this world that can just never be replaced. He'll just have to work until he's 100 years old or so... :pray:

[slp]

I did have a great male OB, and it's not that I refuse to see one at all. I just started seeing a female OB with my last baby and I was really surprised to find out that I *loved* her and was immensely more comfortable than with the male OB. And I hadn't considered myself uncomfortable with the male OB.

I'd see one if I had to, if it was better/safer for the baby/me. But I really love my female OB and I am more comfortable describing things to her and find that she 'gets it' more than the male OB did.

[GatoRojo]

Totally off topic, but should I have an ob-gyn doctor?! I never heard of anyone in England having one unless they had a prediagnosed issue. But now it sounds like you all go there for regular check ups?! Is it like going to the dentist every six months? I'm so confused o.O

[Mama Mia]

Totally off topic, but should I have an ob-gyn doctor?! I never heard of anyone in England having one unless they had a prediagnosed issue. But now it sounds like you all go there for regular check ups?! Is it like going to the dentist every six months? I'm so confused o.O

If you are doing fine, why would you need to ? They can be good if you need surgery for an ovarian cyst, for example, or are having a difficult pregnancy ( I understand in England it is typically mid-wives who attend births )tbut otherwise there is no real reason to.

[OkToBeTakei]

Totally off topic, but should I have an ob-gyn doctor?! I never heard of anyone in England having one unless they had a prediagnosed issue. But now it sounds like you all go there for regular check ups?! Is it like going to the dentist every six months? I'm so confused o.O

No. You do not need one. If you do your GP will refer you to one. Or any other specialist you will require.

US system is very different.

[pega127]

Just back from reading TheDuggarFamilyBlog by Lilly and Elly or whoever- at the top of their latest post about a new hospitality book out by the hospitality queen herself-Mrs. Michelle "I have no idea who Martha Stewert is" Duggar the first sentence is this: We used Grammarly to grammar check this post because good grammarly makes for a happy fammerly.

Hmmm...could it be that sweet Lily and Elle come here and saw a short time ago there was some discussion about the Duggars and grammar???

ooops-read that post wrong---it's a Michelle Duggar hospitality DVD! I think that is even worse. :pull-hair:

[Trynn]

When I had my first pelvic exam, it was because I was in the ER with abdominal pain. I had no idea I'd be having one that day and had no clue what it entailed. They asked if I wanted them to hold off on the pap smear and I was all like, "well, as long as you're down there, you might as well."

It was convenient for them to do so, so I had them do it. Otherwise, I'm 24 and I probably wouldn't have bothered to go in.

I'm told it's a lot worse when it's an ER doctor, but honestly, I wouldn't know the difference, and at the time I didn't have a primary care physician anyway. Again, I had no idea I'd even be HAVING a pelvic exam. I didn't even know what a speculum WAS.

It was pretty traumatizing, especially when, since the real problem was appendicitis, I was in pain the whole time, and not just from the exam.

[Rescinded and Mended]

Totally off topic, but should I have an ob-gyn doctor?! I never heard of anyone in England having one unless they had a prediagnosed issue. But now it sounds like you all go there for regular check ups?! Is it like going to the dentist every six months? I'm so confused o.O

I have one, and I see her every year mainly because I have a family history of ovarian cancer and issues I need to stay on top of. My mother went a very long time without seeing an OB/GYN, and when I was around 12, she was forced to see one because the insurance requirements changed at her place of employment. She learned that her uterus was full of tumors, the condition was life-threatening, and she needed an emergency hysterectomy.

I've also had friends that have periodically needed strips of pre-cancerous cells frozen and removed, and they have learned about these conditions by getting pelvic exams and pap smears on a yearly basis.

Bottom line, I'm not really sure what the perfect ideal is for how often you should go. You may not need to go every year, but I can tell you from my mother's experience that it probably isn't wise to go too long between visits, either. One thing's for certain, always go if you experience any pelvic pain!

ETA - tweaked wording, because it looked like correlation = causation.

[NotALoserLikeYou]

The Duggars are on their way to Sacramento for an IBLP conference. I saw a few pics on instagram posted by a young woman who always seems to be with them now. She's ATI and cute and fun. I wonder if a courtship will happen between her and John David?

[yetanothermeg]

Totally off topic, but should I have an ob-gyn doctor?! I never heard of anyone in England having one unless they had a prediagnosed issue. But now it sounds like you all go there for regular check ups?! Is it like going to the dentist every six months? I'm so confused o.O

In the US insurance companies usually cover yearly "well woman exams" which can be administered by an ob/gyn or by a gp. I've had them done by both. So many insured women have them every year. These include a pelvic exam and a pap smear. For much of my early 20s I had no insurance and felt healthy and so didn't think twice about having a "well woman". Then I got insurance coverage, went in for my pelvic exam and the gp discovered I had an issue. I was glad I had the exam because it would have progressed, possibly causing serious damage to my fertility and I wasn't experiencing any symptoms at the time of discovery.

Do you have yearly physicals in the U.K.? Maybe what is included in a well woman exam is included in your physical.

[Sola]

Not unless you're over 40. Even then many people don't bother or don't know about them. Had 'mine last month, it involved bp check, bloods for cholesterol and weight check. I also had my asthma checked and a medication review because I'm on regular meds. I didn't have a smear because I have no cervix now, but I suppose had I not had a hysterectomy the might have wanted to do that. Everything was done by the nurse too.

[Meghann]

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[HereticHick]

These instagram photos are from a Washington DC set-- the railings on the building look very federal government, but I just can't pin it down. Can anyone enlarge the young girl's badge to see what it says?

[gustava]

I like Jinger's outfit.

[BlondeAgent007]

Why don't any female duggars tuck in their shirts? Higher waists are kind of trendy. 60 years or so ago it would have been seen as inappropriate not to tuck in a blouse. I think Jana's outfit would look much nicer with that pink shirt tucked in. The flowing skirt/long shirt combo looks so ill-fitting and poorly matched to me. Jinger's outfit looks awkward to me as well. The tunic top over a skirt doesn't work for me. The tunic is supposed to be a dress sort of in itself, paired over pants/leggings. A pencil or mini skirt? maybe. To me, Jinger looks to be wearing a ton of fabric, and shaped like a triangle - small on top, getting larger going down. That just is not a flattering look on any body type. If her undershirt were shorter/tucked in, it would define her waist.

Sorry, I really like clothes and fashion. Watching people butcher it hurts my poor heart. Seeing young women who probably have great figures dress so dumpy in ill-fitting clothes makes me want to dress them.

[HereticHick]

Can't have those nubile fundies defining their waists! It would draw attention away from their godly countenances. Seriously, they think tailored clothing is too form-fitting and defrauding.

[Coconut Flan]

They look like relatively normal young women to me. I wouldn't find them out of place in any mall near me. I think the tucked in shirt idea isn't popular with a lot of teens or young twenties any more.

[maple802]

These instagram photos are from a Washington DC set-- the railings on the building look very federal government, but I just can't pin it down. Can anyone enlarge the young girl's badge to see what it says?

Long time lurker coming out of the shadows here :) They are definitely near one of the Smithsonian museums; the snack/popcorn cart is a giveaway. Looks like Natural History (shocking!) based on the railing and columns.

[gustava]

Long time lurker coming out of the shadows here :) They are definitely near one of the Smithsonian museums; the snack/popcorn cart is a giveaway. Looks like Natural History (shocking!) based on the railing and columns.

Perhaps the Smithsonian Folk Life Festival???

[maple802]

Good call. The festival started this week. My office is located on the Mall. Perhaps I should make it a point to go for a walk at lunchtime more often.