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For the purposes of the exercise let's pretend wild yam is an effective contraceptive:

How would she know the mode of action? I doubt there's been a hell of a lot of research (and that presumes she's even read it). There's every possibility that they do prevent implantation (which equals abortion in their book).

And now back to reality (where even herbal medicine ppl say wild yam doesn't work):

henriettes-herb.com/faqs/medi-2-12-wild-yam.html

Even if it DID work, it would be a precursor to progestin, which fundies proclaim to be abotifactant.

According to her "research", the yam works by hardening the wall of the egg to prevent fertilization. Of course, this is only if you take it in certain doses.

If you take the same extract in a different dosage (less, I think...so, miss a pill) you actually improve your fertility.

This sounds like a terrible plan.

Edit: one of her sources is a website called "sisterzeus.com", so I put the word research in quotes as her sources are beyond dubious.

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I feel slightly guilty for being so glad to find out she has a new blog...a while back I went and read through her old blog (Arbys?!? I still can't get over this) and just.... :think: :think: scratched my head.

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...yams?! :pink-shock:

Well, you see, there are lots and lots of kinds of yams or yam roots. (I'm not sure what the difference is between a yam and a yam root, but I'm no Sister Zeus.) Very few are eaten because the others all taste very bitter. But if you take extract from these other kinds of yam roots, it can assist in your fertility or prevent you from conceiving. Depends on how much you take.

This is all very science. Much research. So wow.

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I have heard of yams increasing your likelihood of having twins. Sounds like a great BC plan!

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If they are willing to do the freaking yam thing, why don't they just try NFP? Can he not keep it in his pants for a few days a month? Extremely religious people have no issue with NFP. If they are using yams with the intention to prevent pregnancy, then their mind should be able to wrap around the idea of NFP. Only difference is, NFP actually works pretty well if you follow the guidelines.

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If they are willing to do the freaking yam thing, why don't they just try NFP? Can he not keep it in his pants for a few days a month? Extremely religious people have no issue with NFP. If they are using yams with the intention to prevent pregnancy, then their mind should be able to wrap around the idea of NFP. Only difference is, NFP actually works pretty well if you follow the guidelines.

To the bolded: this depends. And it depends on the woman and how regular her cycle is. And it can fail at any time if you have an irregular cycle, which can be caused by 1001 reasons and sometimes just because.

For some women, NFP works great and they will never have an unplanned pregnancy (or will at least be able to space children)!

For some women, they can follow it perfectly and it doesn't work at all because their cycles vary (making it hard to impossible to predict ovulation).

I'm from a Catholic fundie-lite background and many, MANY of my childhood friends practice NFP. For some of them, it just straight up doesn't work.

It's possible Kristina knows her cycles aren't always regular and therefore knows that she needs a form of BC other than NFP.

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A devoutly Catholic friend of mine went to a fertility/NFP specialist (she is trying to get pregnant). The info she passed along about NFP (which was definitely TMI) was actually rather interesting. I always assumed it was just temperature tracking and the rhythm method/counting days and was surprised at the other ways to track ovulation and fertility. The method she described was definitely more scientific than I thought it would be. My friend's a doctor so she's pretty much on top of what's science and what's not...

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A devoutly Catholic friend of mine went to a fertility/NFP specialist (she is trying to get pregnant). The info she passed along about NFP (which was definitely TMI) was actually rather interesting. I always assumed it was just temperature tracking and the rhythm method/counting days and was surprised at the other ways to track ovulation and fertility. The method she described was definitely more scientific than I thought it would be. My friend's a doctor so she's pretty much on top of what's science and what's not...

I highly recommend the book Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler. I think it should be required reading for all women, regardless of what kind of BC options they use or don't use because it is the best book I've ever found that tells women exactly what is going on with their bodies.

If you use the methods faithfully (which is more than just temperature tracking) it has a very good success rate, both for preventing and facilitating conception, depending on what you're trying to achieve. One key point, though, is that using the methods faithfully includes assuming you are fertile if the signs are not clear which means abstaining or using a secondary method of BC. If your body is doing something weird and you can be sure where you are in your cycle for some reason, assume you can get pregnant.

OT, but she also has another book called Cycle Savvy: The Smart Teen's Guide to The Mysteries of Her Body which is geared towards girls 14 and over. Again, it is a great way to learn what your body is doing and why - far beyond "one day you'll get your period and here is how to use a tampon". It does talk frankly about sex and STDs and is definitely NOT an abstinence only book (although it very much encourages girls to only have sex because they want to and to own their sexuality). The big difference between this book and the other one is that she is very clear that this book is for girls to learn about their bodies, not to practice NFP so it's a lot less technical.

OK, I'm off my soap box now, :lol: but if I can get even one teen girls to read Cycle Savvy I'll be happy. I've given it to my oldest daughter and we'll pass it down to daughter #2 at the appropriate age.

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I highly recommend the book Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler. I think it should be required reading for all women, regardless of what kind of BC options they use or don't use because it is the best book I've ever found that tells women exactly what is going on with their bodies.

If you use the methods faithfully (which is more than just temperature tracking) it has a very good success rate, both for preventing and facilitating conception, depending on what you're trying to achieve. One key point, though, is that using the methods faithfully includes assuming you are fertile if the signs are not clear which means abstaining or using a secondary method of BC. If your body is doing something weird and you can be sure where you are in your cycle for some reason, assume you can get pregnant.

OT, but she also has another book called Cycle Savvy: The Smart Teen's Guide to The Mysteries of Her Body which is geared towards girls 14 and over. Again, it is a great way to learn what your body is doing and why - far beyond "one day you'll get your period and here is how to use a tampon". It does talk frankly about sex and STDs and is definitely NOT an abstinence only book (although it very much encourages girls to only have sex because they want to and to own their sexuality). The big difference between this book and the other one is that she is very clear that this book is for girls to learn about their bodies, not to practice NFP so it's a lot less technical.

OK, I'm off my soap box now, :lol: but if I can get even one teen girls to read Cycle Savvy I'll be happy. I've given it to my oldest daughter and we'll pass it down to daughter #2 at the appropriate age.

I would happily donate towards a basal thermometer and a copy of TCOYF for Kristina, that book is incredible. Wonder how her head ship would go with abstaining though, he doesn't seem the type to be happy about it. I'm glad that Cycle Savvy is good too, my daughter is years of needing it but I'll definitely be getting it for her when she gets older.

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I get all that about NFP, I'm just thinking it's gotta be more reliable than...yams.

Oh, I'm sure. At least NFP wont make you MORE fertile if you miscalculate the dosage!

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So much about Kristina bothers me. I can't even pinpoint it, beyond the obvious. I dislike her, a lot. Not hate or anything, I just simply don't like the chick.

She's either seriously uneducated and unintelligent or has swallowed enough kool-aid that she isn't even a thinking human being anymore, if she ever way.

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Can someone link me to the Arby's engagement?

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Can someone link me to the Arby's engagement?

The 6 Inch Courtship rule: kristinaskeeps.blogspot.com/2009/02/obeying-6-rule.html

They've been Courting for ONE WHOLE MONTH!: kristinaskeeps.blogspot.com/2009/01/24th-one-month.html

A few days later, they get engaged in an Arby's: kristinaskeeps.blogspot.com/2009/02/engagement-pictures.html

Click on the "My Courtship" header to find all of her and Josh's...."romance".

Edit: Here is the story behind the courtship: kristinaskeeps.blogspot.com/2008/12/our-story.html

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So much about Kristina bothers me. I can't even pinpoint it, beyond the obvious. I dislike her, a lot. Not hate or anything, I just simply don't like the chick.

She's either seriously uneducated and unintelligent or has swallowed enough kool-aid that she isn't even a thinking human being anymore, if she ever way.

For some reason, I don't dislike her. I think she's batsh*t crazy, but I don't hate her. She just seems SO naive and completely clueless about the way things work, which is so sad seeing as how she's got 4 kids already. She just doesn't seem to be in touch with reality in the least bit. I have this overwhelming desire to just take her aside and explain to her how life really works. I pity her.

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I had forgotten how truly creepy and squicky I found Josh.

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What scares me about Kristina:

1. That she waited until she had 4 kids to start learning about how her body works.

2. That SHE is considered the bookworm in her family (don't feel like looking for the post; if you're that curious just search "bookworm" on her old blog).

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I highly recommend the book Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler. I think it should be required reading for all women, regardless of what kind of BC options they use or don't use because it is the best book I've ever found that tells women exactly what is going on with their bodies.

If you use the methods faithfully (which is more than just temperature tracking) it has a very good success rate, both for preventing and facilitating conception, depending on what you're trying to achieve. One key point, though, is that using the methods faithfully includes assuming you are fertile if the signs are not clear which means abstaining or using a secondary method of BC. If your body is doing something weird and you can be sure where you are in your cycle for some reason, assume you can get pregnant.

OT, but she also has another book called Cycle Savvy: The Smart Teen's Guide to The Mysteries of Her Body which is geared towards girls 14 and over. Again, it is a great way to learn what your body is doing and why - far beyond "one day you'll get your period and here is how to use a tampon". It does talk frankly about sex and STDs and is definitely NOT an abstinence only book (although it very much encourages girls to only have sex because they want to and to own their sexuality). The big difference between this book and the other one is that she is very clear that this book is for girls to learn about their bodies, not to practice NFP so it's a lot less technical.

OK, I'm off my soap box now, :lol: but if I can get even one teen girls to read Cycle Savvy I'll be happy. I've given it to my oldest daughter and we'll pass it down to daughter #2 at the appropriate age.

Thanks for the advice! I'll let her know. I'm not in a relationship but would love to have kids someday and I found the methods she told me about to be very interesting, if a bit squicky. But as I mentioned, she's a doctor and talking about bodily functions that I would never discuss in public doesn't phase her a bit. :)

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What scares me about Kristina:

1. That she waited until she had 4 kids to start learning about how her body works.

2. That SHE is considered the bookworm in her family (don't feel like looking for the post; if you're that curious just search "bookworm" on her old blog).

I just found the bookworm post. What's even more sad is that she wrote that in 2007, when she was still a stay at home daughter. So, she was counting her parents and siblings - as opposed to just her husband which, sadly, I think is a mighty dim bulb so that wouldn't surprise me.

And, she is going to homeskool her kids.

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:wink-penguin:

Well, you see, there are lots and lots of kinds of yams or yam roots. (I'm not sure what the difference is between a yam and a yam root, but I'm no Sister Zeus.) Very few are eaten because the others all taste very bitter. But if you take extract from these other kinds of yam roots, it can assist in your fertility or prevent you from conceiving. Depends on how much you take.

This is all very science. Much research. So wow.

<3 <3 <3 for the Doge reference. Such amaze.

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The 6 Inch Courtship rule: kristinaskeeps.blogspot.com/2009/02/obeying-6-rule.html

They've been Courting for ONE WHOLE MONTH!: kristinaskeeps.blogspot.com/2009/01/24th-one-month.html

A few days later, they get engaged in an Arby's: kristinaskeeps.blogspot.com/2009/02/engagement-pictures.html

Click on the "My Courtship" header to find all of her and Josh's...."romance".

Edit: Here is the story behind the courtship: kristinaskeeps.blogspot.com/2008/12/our-story.html

I read the whole courtship section. No words.

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I fear for her children and the future they'll occupy and create. Each subsequent generation is going to be more inept than the last. I cringe at Kristina teaching her kids and then they will teach their kids - it's all down a very steep hill from here.

I can't even imagine them being able to find someone dim enough to marry their (so far, four) kids off to. Everything about them is so superficial. Reading Kristinas comments on her courtship posts - clearly she doesn't have a fucking clue why she was 'courting' or what it means. She was attempting to regurgitate what she was told by parents who most likely didn't grasp it any better than she did.

Her 'courtship' was actually quite a joke even compared to other coursthips. All because they are not smart and don't care to be.

Jebus be takin' care of dem, dontcha' know. Who needs edumcation?

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I agree. The lack of intelligent curiosity is simply stunning. I'd just as soon be dead than live in such a state of ignorance. Thank god my parents encouraged learning and education. I would hate to be in the same sorry circumstances that Kristina and Josh now find themselves in.

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What scares me about Kristina:

1. That she waited until she had 4 kids to start learning about how her body works.

2. That SHE is considered the bookworm in her family (don't feel like looking for the post; if you're that curious just search "bookworm" on her old blog).

I'm really not surprised that she waited until she had four kids to start looking into possible ways to not conceive. I'm sure she was all for letting nature take it's course, until she was faced with the reality of having four kids in less than three years. That would be a wake up call for anyone!

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