Stupid Stuff People Post on Facebook

[halfheartedheroine]

Some Facebook friends of mine are talking about a new state law going into effect that sounds like minors between 13-18y.o. can be charged with child pornography for sexting/spreading nudes of underage people around. Which I think is potentially a good thing to bring more accountability and hopefully reduce the amount of it going around, although it's not clear if it would be a financial charge, just a charge on someone's record, or actual jail time.

So then one guy I went to undergrad with posts that it would "disadvantage them for future jobs" and "we don't have enough jail cells to enforce this". :angry-banghead: So I responded with that people spreading around child pornography damned well deserve some sort of punishment, even if it's being disadvantaged in the job field BECAUSE THEY COMMITTED A CRIME. What a jackass! So damned glad I listened to my instinct ages ago to keep him at arm's length. I can celebrate on that count, at least :dance:

[doggie]

So you are saying a 14 year old who sends a sext to someone else should be labeled a sex. Offender and live the rest of their lives with that hanging over their heads?

[halfheartedheroine]

So you are saying a 14 year old who sends a sext to someone else should be labeled a sex. Offender and live the rest of their lives with that hanging over their heads?

I think the people that spread it everywhere need to be punished in some way. I don't really know how I feel about the person who takes the naked selfie getting punished, but when someone spreads it around saying "OMG what a slut" I think there should be some sort of legal response to it. I don't think minors should be sexting (mainly because of the risk of it ending up everywhere), but I think the punishment should be more severe for a person maliciously spreading it around than the original person doing it. Like, maybe a misdemeanor-type charge for the original person and possible sex-offender status for someone maliciously sending it to everyone.

[RosyDaisy]

The actual account holder could face criminal charges if the phones in question are part of a family plan.

[halfheartedheroine]

The actual account holder could face criminal charges if the phones in question are part of a family plan.

I did not know that. I think I interpreted the ruling to mainly attack the people who spread the photos maliciously to damage the minor's reputation, and I didn't consider how someone not directly receiving/sending the pictures could be held legally responsible, and I apologize.

[FJismyheadship]

i had a facebook friend i ignore. he is best friends with one of my best friends, and so every so often we run into eachother or work together.

he has issues lumping people together. the short version is anyone who doesnt believe like he does is a Godless heathen.

He pretty much said this when he posted two different merry christmas posts.one was to all his conservative friends which wished them a merry Christmas and blessings. the one to all his liberal friends was a tldr basically saying happy holidays in a non sexist non confrontational non religious way. it was stupid and i told him that i was not happy with it because not all liberals are the same and if someone takes offense to you saying merry Christmas and god bless you, that's their problem not yours.

a few days later he starts going on about decsying liberals calling duck dynasty fake. he proceeds to state that OF COURSE since it was a liberal page all comments were mean and nasty. i called him out on it and told him to quit lumping everyone together. i told him i have heard him say some horrible things so he needed to shut up and not pretend like conservatives are perfect and liberals were godless heathens.

he gives me a non apology about how he didn't mean to hurt my feelings and how he didn't mean me. he told me he would give me a few minutes to rectify the situation. i said i wasn't hurt but if does lump people together and listed examples. so he said he would thoughtfully, politely fix it just for me and deleted me from his friends list.

[FJismyheadship]

So you are saying a 14 year old who sends a sext to someone else should be labeled a sex. Offender and live the rest of their lives with that hanging over their heads?

there was an episode of law and order svu where a 16 year old was charged for sending nude pics of herself

[halfheartedheroine]

there was an episode of law and order svu where a 16 year old was charged for sending nude pics of herself

Is there a "Romeo and Juliet law" type thing were the age of the recipient is taken into account? Like, would two 16 year olds consensually sending nude photos would have more leniency than a couple with significant age differences?

[Mecca]

I am getting a ton of "we won!!" about Phil Roberston. Not sure what these people actually won, and I frankly could not give two poops about Mr. Bigot Roberston.

[doggie]

I think the people that spread it everywhere need to be punished in some way. I don't really know how I feel about the person who takes the naked selfie getting punished, but when someone spreads it around saying "OMG what a slut" I think there should be some sort of legal response to it. I don't think minors should be sexting (mainly because of the risk of it ending up everywhere), but I think the punishment should be more severe for a person maliciously spreading it around than the original person doing it. Like, maybe a misdemeanor-type charge for the original person and possible sex-offender status for someone maliciously sending it to everyone.

it is a sticky situation. revenge sexting over kids being stupid Not sure laws would fix it parents are the ones that can only really fix it.

[Avalondaughter]

Snopes has become ineffective against some people. I have had some right wing friends post some articles from right-wing sites about some scandal that Snopes reported incorrectly. According to them, Snopes is a left-wing liberal organization that hands out biased facts. Snopes their stupid posts and they will no longer believe you.

[RosyDaisy]

I did not know that. I think I interpreted the ruling to mainly attack the people who spread the photos maliciously to damage the minor's reputation, and I didn't consider how someone not directly receiving/sending the pictures could be held legally responsible, and I apologize.

No need to apologize. I was just adding information to the thread. What's needed here is discipline and parenting rather than sending kids to jail and forever labeled sex offenders. All of this can be easily avoided by disabling texting features on the kid's phone. Our courts are already backed up, we don't need to add stupid shit like this to it.

[formergothardite]

People who I really thought were smarter than this are being all outraged over the fake story of a nine year old being suspended for telling his atheist teacher Merry Christmas. Then they got offended when I pointed out that the story was from a satire site and were all "Well I bet it has happened somewhere." No, no it hasn't.

[Emme]

People who I really thought were smarter than this are being all outraged over the fake story of a nine year old being suspended for telling his atheist teacher Merry Christmas. Then they got offended when I pointed out that the story was from a satire site and were all "Well I bet it has happened somewhere." No, no it hasn't.

I feel the same way about the people who are outraged that this boy got suspended for kissing that little girl. She had said no repeatedly, he had done it repeatedly. That's not acceptable. That's where rape culture comes from, teaching boys that it's ok to kiss a girl if she says no because it's "cute" or "romantic"

[halfheartedheroine]

I feel the same way about the people who are outraged that this boy got suspended for kissing that little girl. She had said no repeatedly, he had done it repeatedly. That's not acceptable. That's where rape culture comes from, teaching boys that it's ok to kiss a girl if she says no because it's "cute" or "romantic"

I kept hearing "It's just a hug/kiss! Why is the girl's parent being such a bitch about it?" Like, yes, hugging and kissing is less severe than rape, but refusing to acknowledge the girl's bodily autonomy is what contributes to rape culture, but some people can't get past that "he had innocent intentions!"

[ILoveJellybeans]

I seriously just got called a retard and a sheep for pointing out to someone in a group that colloidal silver isn't the miracle cure they said it was, and that overuse turns you blue.

[louisa05]

I seriously just got called a retard and a sheep for pointing out to someone in a group that colloidal silver isn't the miracle cure they said it was, and that overuse turns you blue.

So you know my sister-in-law?

I got into it with her last night when she started telling us how she will never get any sort of cancer, heart issue, etc... because she eats the right foods and uses "natural medicine" (that includes colloidal silver) and does yoga. Apparently, that has all rendered her immortal.

My father is the most health conscious person I have ever known and has cancer. There are no guarantees and it is foolish to believe there are. Plus she told me this while eating her third piece of chocolate cake with peanut butter frosting. :angry-banghead:

[Mama Mia]

I think the people that spread it everywhere need to be punished in some way. I don't really know how I feel about the person who takes the naked selfie getting punished, but when someone spreads it around saying "OMG what a slut" I think there should be some sort of legal response to it. I don't think minors should be sexting (mainly because of the risk of it ending up everywhere), but I think the punishment should be more severe for a person maliciously spreading it around than the original person doing it. Like, maybe a misdemeanor-type charge for the original person and possible sex-offender status for someone maliciously sending it to everyone.

You honestly want children, acting like mean children sometimes do, since the beginning of time, but with the unfortunate addition of technology, to have their entire lives ruined for forwarding a text? :angry-banghead: wow.

[Mama Mia]

i had a facebook friend i ignore. he is best friends with one of my best friends, and so every so often we run into eachother or work together.

he has issues lumping people together. the short version is anyone who doesnt believe like he does is a Godless heathen.

He pretty much said this when he posted two different merry christmas posts.one was to all his conservative friends which wished them a merry Christmas and blessings. the one to all his liberal friends was a tldr basically saying happy holidays in a non sexist non confrontational non religious way. it was stupid and i told him that i was not happy with it because not all liberals are the same and if someone takes offense to you saying merry Christmas and god bless you, that's their problem not yours.

a few days later he starts going on about decsying liberals calling duck dynasty fake. he proceeds to state that OF COURSE since it was a liberal page all comments were mean and nasty. i called him out on it and told him to quit lumping everyone together. i told him i have heard him say some horrible things so he needed to shut up and not pretend like conservatives are perfect and liberals were godless heathens.

he gives me a non apology about how he didn't mean to hurt my feelings and how he didn't mean me. he told me he would give me a few minutes to rectify the situation. i said i wasn't hurt but if does lump people together and listed examples. so he said he would thoughtfully, politely fix it just for me and deleted me from his friends list.

Ugg. I just saw a really idiotic "this is what's wrong with liberals" post. It had a photo with Miley Cyrus twerking on top and the Duck Dynasty guy on the bottom. Next to Miley it said " liberal love and idolize her" and next to Duck Dynasty guy it said " liberals hate and want to silence him"

Yes, because liberals were all holding Miley's twerking up as a role model :roll:

[halfheartedheroine]

You honestly want children, acting like mean children sometimes do, since the beginning of time, but with the unfortunate addition of technology, to have their entire lives ruined for forwarding a text? :angry-banghead: wow.

I think my knee-jerk reaction was to want the law to enforce some kind of repercussion for spreading the pictures around, but every situation is different, so I realize that there would have to be a lot of judges' interpretation to mete out a suitable punishment. I don't think that a lifetime-record is suitable for each case, but it seems to be an accountability thing, which I think is the law's attempt to keep up with technology. Do I think a minor having nude pictures of another minor should be punished less severely than an adult? Yes. But I also think there should be some sort of legal response, with a judge considering an age-sliding-scale of what the minor should be aware of (a 17 year old would probably be considered to 'know better' than a 13 year old would, and would therefore receive a tougher response).

[Emkay]

You honestly want children, acting like mean children sometimes do, since the beginning of time, but with the unfortunate addition of technology, to have their entire lives ruined for forwarding a text? :angry-banghead: wow.

The problem with that is, one day they're 17 and they're 'kids' and the next, they're 18, they're adults, and it sticks with them for the rest of their lives. If they don't learn before they turn 18, when will they?

Teenagers should understand the repercussions of forwarding a nude picture. In this instance, I'm not talking bf/gf sending pics back and forth, I'm talking either party forwarding them on to other people. If this is done with malicious intent, you really can't tell me a teenager doesn't know it's wrong. This is another reason parents should be very careful and make sure their teenagers know 'the rules' before giving them a phone- any restrictions the parents have, if the minutes/texts/data/etc are limited (they were when my siblings and I got cell phones, they probably aren't anymore)- and that the parents, as plan holders, are responsible for things like any illegal images that are sent, as one poster above mentioned.

[Stephanie66]

I am getting a ton of "we won!!" about Phil Roberston. Not sure what these people actually won, and I frankly could not give two poops about Mr. Bigot Roberston.

A&E is going to continue filming him in episodes. So, I guess, he is unsuspended.

My whole frustration was that apparently people of the United States have no clue what the First Amendment means. Phil Robertson is not in jail, so he has first amendment rights. He has the right to say what he wants, his employer has the right to fire him.

I heard nothing about "first amendment rights" when Don Imus, Martin Bashir, Alec Baldwin, Randi Rhodes and Keith Olbermann were fired for things they said. Huh.

[Mama Mia]

The problem with that is, one day they're 17 and they're 'kids' and the next, they're 18, they're adults, and it sticks with them for the rest of their lives. If they don't learn before they turn 18, when will they?

Teenagers should understand the repercussions of forwarding a nude picture. In this instance, I'm not talking bf/gf sending pics back and forth, I'm talking either party forwarding them on to other people. If this is done with malicious intent, you really can't tell me a teenager doesn't know it's wrong. This is another reason parents should be very careful and make sure their teenagers know 'the rules' before giving them a phone- any restrictions the parents have, if the minutes/texts/data/etc are limited (they were when my siblings and I got cell phones, they probably aren't anymore)- and that the parents, as plan holders, are responsible for things like any illegal images that are sent, as one poster above mentioned.

I think that it is an insanely over the top reaction. Having someone registering as a sex offender is going to have a longer range negative impact on their life than being convicted of murder. Once a murderer ( arsonist, bank robber, inside trader, forger..it's a long list ) completes their sentence they are basically cleared. They may have some limitations due to having a felony, but nowhere near the limitations of a sex offender.

It will impact what job they can have, where they can live, the friends and relationships they can have...because it's all listed on. A public website. Literally every single thing. Forever.

Having parents explain the rules is great. If teenagers all followed the rules their parents laid down to them the world would be a vastly different place.

[redcurls]

Ok I am LIVID over how stupid religious fervor can make people. A girl I went to high school has evidently used 'the power of prayer' to cure her toddler son's likely broken foot. She never sought any sort of medical attention for him to find out what was really wrong, she just prayed a lot and now her son is fine. I'm pissed as hell that she thinks prayer is an acceptable alternative to responsible parenting.