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Thank you for taking the time to share all that info, AwMom (love the UN and the asshole comment, lol).

As a survivor of SA (as a young child) the attempts by that blogger to justify her husband's activities horrifies me. I can't imagine that someone who is so adamant in her defense of him would believe her children if they came to her with claims of abuse by him and there is no way in hell she would take it upon herself to protect her children from him beforehand. If you don't believe a behavior is wrong or damaging then there is no reason to establish a safety net to protect others from being hurt by it. Her refusal to accept the reality of the situation causes me to fear she will eventually enable her husband to create many more victims, if she hasn't already.

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Even if you accepted that it's a victimless crime (which, obviously, it isn't), I don't understand how anyone can think it isn't really fucking creepy to get off on child porn. I've seen child porn - not on purpose; I used to download a lot of miscellaneous stuff back in the Napster days, and a couple times I stumbled on files that had been named something innocent but were really child porn - and if you can look at that stuff with any reaction but horror, you're not right in the head.

In terms of creepiness, the only real difference between the guy whose child porn is all in his head and the guy who looks at it is that one of them is hiding it better. He's still a sick bastard.

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I somehow doubt he's kicked his porn addiction. When he gets out surely part of his parole conditions will have something to do with submitting his computers for checks or not owning a computer or having internet access? If he's denied the porn it makes me worried he won't be content with his fantasies and he'll escalate to molestation.

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I've just read Handbasket's most recent posts and I'm screaming.

A commenter wrote:

Wow, utterly amazing. You (both) are amazing!!! I don't care if the image is two days old or twenty years old...that little child was still the victim of a terrible crime and continue to be a victim!!!

And she responds:

Again with the once a victim always a victim thinking. No matter how many exclamation points you put on it, it is cruel to insist that someone will always be a victim and can never overcome what happened.

But of course her husband is the real victim here, because he's being so unjustly treated because looking at child porn shouldn't be a crime because REASONS.

The other, more fundie blog I originally linked to hasn't been updated in a while. I hope she's doing okay.

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It was pointed out somewhere (probably GOMI, which is where I found this blog) that if the pictures had been on the '17-year-old girl voluntarily posing for her webcam' end of the scale, she would undoubtedly have used that as a defense for her husband, given how many straws she's grasping at to make him seem like not really a bad guy. But she's never, as far as I can see, stated what exactly he was looking at. So reading between the lines, I'd say it was most likely fairly high on the COPINE scale:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COPINE_scale

I think she once stated that 'you could download a really big file of pornography and there might be something CP-related in there and then you'd be seen as guilty even though you never intended to look at it' but I can't remember if she claimed this was why her husband was looking at it.

It's mindblowing, trying to follow all the mental justifications.

UK courts do distinguish between whether the image was viewed or not. And...how many times the image was viewed. I find it hard to believe that US courts don't.

With the Copine scale, #1 gets you a police caution if intent is proved. I would guess this was fairly high on the Copine scale.

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While browsing her sick writings there's a Sex Offender blog that is being run for a guy named Joe while he is doing 78 months for possession of child porn. It's so lovely including a sex offenders survival guide.

joetheso.com/

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I'm reading between the lines, but she's made reference to people clicking a link, not realizing what it was, or even having something in their cache that they didn't know how it got there. I'm wondering if that's what she believes her husband did and that's why she defends him?

The ONLY sex offenders who I think we don't really have to worry about are the 19 year olds who slept with their 17 year old girlfriend. Those kind of stories make me really upset. In that case, someone who really didn't do anything wrong really does end up with their life ruined.

It takes more then one click or random item in your cache to get convicted of child porn. There has to be a consistent pattern and evidence on the computer to get a criminal charge.

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There's a website devoted to keeping wives of men in prison home with kids keeping hoyse and homeschooling instead of our working. Apparently, the admonition to help widows in the Bible includes young, healthy women perfectly capable of working.

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I've just read Handbasket's most recent posts and I'm screaming.

A commenter wrote:

Wow, utterly amazing. You (both) are amazing!!! I don't care if the image is two days old or twenty years old...that little child was still the victim of a terrible crime and continue to be a victim!!!

And she responds:

Again with the once a victim always a victim thinking. No matter how many exclamation points you put on it, it is cruel to insist that someone will always be a victim and can never overcome what happened.

But of course her husband is the real victim here, because he's being so unjustly treated because looking at child porn shouldn't be a crime because REASONS.

The other, more fundie blog I originally linked to hasn't been updated in a while. I hope she's doing okay.

Does anyone else remember the Law & Order: SVU episode about the girl who was kidnapped and made to appear in child porn and years later was hunted down as an adult by people who had seen her? While I would hope that any child who is forced to appear in child porn are able to eventually deal with the horror of what happened to them I wouldn't be surprised if that did happen in real life.

The difference between looking at a crime scene picture and child porn is looking at a crime scene picture is the person is now beyond hurt. While it is beyond disgusting to me that someone would enjoy looking at a picture of a murder, the victim can't be hurt anymore. Looking at/distributing a picture of a child will continue to harm a living, breathing human being.

tl;dr Make all the excuses you want but viewing child porn makes you a disgusting excuse for a human.

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Here's another

thecaseforchris.blogspot.com/

A teacher, convicted of molesting students.

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Sickens me all the justification the women make for the husbands.

I just read her blog & then read up about her husband on various other sites. The part they were trying to appeal (which didn't go through anyways) was the most minor part of the charges. The repeated behavior, over course of years...they had nothing to appeal on those charges? And their kids are similar ages to those he violated...so gross.

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I was abused by my grandfather until I was 11. I can see my grandmother in these women who try to justify what their husbands have done. Her only excuse for staying with him was "it is just a flaw in his makeup".

This was all before Internet of course but I know for a fact that he shared images with 'friends', he had a dark room in his attic that my grandmother never went into so he developed and copied images too. Knowing the thousands of hard copy images the police confiscated from the house It really creeps me out and sometimes mskes me physically sick that there are undoubtably still pictures of me in someone else's attic. It makes my blood boil that she could even think that it is a victimless crime.

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Mami, I'm so sorry for what you went through. That is so horrible.

I am reading the case for Chris blog, and someone mentioned news articles. How do I find them? So far I haven't come across his last name or identifying details to google.

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We actually know relatively little about child sex offenders in terms of background, motivation, base rate, and recidivism rate. I found this article from the Australian government to be very informative.

http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/curr ... di429.html

I agree that the blogger in question is justifying an inexcusable crime that is devastating for the victims. I also don't know that anyone has a good idea of whether the average convicted child pornography viewer is likely to have abused children (or to do so in the future). If this was my partner, I would be dissolving that relationship as fast as possible -- and that impulse is a gut impulse that may or may not have good evidence to back it up. When it comes to kids, though, better safe than sorry.

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No no no no no. Just NO. ARGH.

I cannot BELIEVE the Handbasket woman has the nerve to equate what her piece of shit husband did to the investigative actions of law enforcement working to combat the proliferation of child porn. How fucking DARE she. She's either a total monster, an actual sex offender herself (one and the same, if you ask me), or completely mentally ill, possibly a combination of all three. She wanted to "watch him overcome his addiction"?! WTF, he's not an alcoholic! :angry-banghead:

Your husband watched little kids get molested. YOUR HUSBAND WATCHED LITTLE KIDS GET MOLESTED. How do you even ponder any other reaction but total and utter disgust and rage?! If that were my husband, I'd be first in line to pull the lever next to the electric chair. (I'm generally against the death penalty except in the most extreme cases, like BTK, but I do not think child molesters or child porn peddlers can ever be reformed. There is just something so completely horrifying about the experience that even premeditated murder would not compare in my book. This is where my liberal political side gives way to "FRYYYYY". Can't help it.)

He deserves to be locked up for the rest of his life, at the very least, and she needs to be stripped of parental rights. I seriously fear for those kids.

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There are so many more of these women over on the prison talk forums and they have forums for those who are sentenced for life. These women post about how to stay in a relationship and how to stay true to your man even if he is a sex offender and of course the usual he's innocent card. I honestly believe some of these women are mentally ill especially those who take up for those doing time and are all too happy to let him have access to their children.

prisontalk.com/forums/

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Mami, I'm so sorry for what you went through. That is so horrible.

I am reading the case for Chris blog, and someone mentioned news articles. How do I find them? So far I haven't come across his last name or identifying details to google.

Chris Brazleton. Her name is Marcella.

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Does anyone else remember the Law & Order: SVU episode about the girl who was kidnapped and made to appear in child porn and years later was hunted down as an adult by people who had seen her? While I would hope that any child who is forced to appear in child porn are able to eventually deal with the horror of what happened to them I wouldn't be surprised if that did happen in real life.

I saw that one the last time I was home, and then was sickened but not surprised to learn it was based on a real-life case (or, at least, there were great similarities) - and the real-life woman is now seeking restitution from anyone who has one of the images of her:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/03/us/03offender.html

http://absolutezerounited.blogspot.co.u ... r-amy.html

(Not breaking links as news source/anti-CP resource)

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I was abused by my grandfather until I was 11. I can see my grandmother in these women who try to justify what their husbands have done. Her only excuse for staying with him was "it is just a flaw in his makeup".

This was all before Internet of course but I know for a fact that he shared images with 'friends', he had a dark room in his attic that my grandmother never went into so he developed and copied images too. Knowing the thousands of hard copy images the police confiscated from the house It really creeps me out and sometimes mskes me physically sick that there are undoubtably still pictures of me in someone else's attic. It makes my blood boil that she could even think that it is a victimless crime.

Same here. :::hugs::: I never told my family though. I try not to think about how likely it was that my grandma had at least some idea. It was a VERY small apartment, and she worshipped the ground he walked on.

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