Duggars thank their 500,000 fans (with video)

[homeschoolmomma1]

I looked and could not find a thread for this. I guess the Duggars want to thank us for 500.000 fans. I say big deal...

 

Video of thanks is on facebook page

 

https://www.facebook.com/#!/19KidsandCounting

[PokaDot]

I fucking love science has 4.1 million fans. I wish it got a TV show instead of the Duggars getting air time.

[sheltonLE]

I laughed when James (or Jeremiah, I'm not sure...) said: "What's Facebook?!"

[Wandering]

I'm sorry was I struck blind by the fact that Johannah (I think?) was WEARING PANTS!!!

[Blessing]

It looked like Joy had pants on under a skirt too....not leggings, pants!

[0 kids n not countin]

Yeah for them!!! :dance: :dance: :dance: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :D :D :D

[soossie]

I was also surprised. Johannah and joy really wear pants!! :D

[paganhomeschooler]

Did you notice there is no Smuggar, JD, Jill, Joseph, or Josiah in the big family part at the end? 2 of the Howlers are missing, too!

And yay for pants! It also almost looked like Hannie had a Minnie/Mickey Mouse shirt on. I'm surprised the Duggars would allow that, but it looked like mouse ears in her part of the video.

[homeschoolmomma1]

I just don't understand why people are so happy they reached 500,000 fans. I mean they have been around since 2004 or 2005. That seems like a really small amount to me

[Maul the Koala]

A good sizable portion of those fans are socks. ;) The Dugers/Diggers/Dooogars/insert any butchering of Duggar here probably don't realize that.

[NotALoserLikeYou]

I wonder if Joy is allowed to wear pants at home and just put a skirt over it for the video?

[lilwriter85]

I just don't understand why people are so happy they reached 500,000 fans. I mean they have been around since 2004 or 2005. That seems like a really small amount to me

I think over the years the Duggars have lost fans. Some people liked them until they started doing research on QF, ATI, and Gothard. The Duggars also don't gain many fans because some people find them weird right off the bat. When the regular show premiered back in 2008, the critics panned the show right away and some people didn't stay tuning in. I think the reason some people liked the Roloffs from Little People, Big World was because that family could relate more to people. Matt does come off as a greedy businessman and Amy was annoying at times. Their family is more in tune with the real world than the Duggars are. Yes, the Roloffs are conservative Christians who affiliated with anti-gay pastor, but they don't have extreme control tactics over their children.

When I watched the Roloff show, I was able to relate to them more than the Duggars. The Roloff kids were allowed to have their own hobbies and they participated in sports and other activities sometimes on their own. Jeremy had a few girlfriends during the show's run. Amy despite her faults, was the type of mom who allowed her kids to talk to her any time. She didn't pull the "schedule for one on one time" crap like Mullet does. Amy also owned up a few times to when her kids screwed up. Mullet would never admit to imperfection on camera. Molly Roloff is away at college and she probably has the skills to deal with the real world that the J'Slaves don't have.

The Duggars are hard for many people to relate to. It is obvious that most of their hobbies and activities have to be done together as a family all the time. The courtship aspect is something that makes the family look weird to many. One of the J'Slaves said during the Sarah Malley episode, that she was glad that Daddy Boob is going to pick her husband. I have continued watching the Duggar show partially because I view it as case study in fundamentalism. The Duggars do try to hide some of their beliefs and at times you can tell that aspects of their lifestyle are more dark than cute.

[roddma]

Agree with lilwriter. i used to be a fan too in spite of being a moderate liberal. I never knew who they were before since I didn't keep up with reality tv. I saw a headline reading "family has 17th child', but never paid much attention. I would defend them quite a bit saying if they could afford the children, so what if they have 17 or dress more modest than the rest of us?. Maybe it was Josh and Anna's wedding that raised a flag can't recall exactly. I actually believed they choose to live that way which Jim Bob and Michelle do, but they are not letting their kids choose. Humpers fail to see how much work the older girls do. They alsos fail to see the toddlers wondering about or the kids running to their sister moms when something happens instead of their own mother. It happened to Jennifer then Jordyn. I could go on and on here. If they weren't relgious I would still have concerns. Once Amy posted on an article in defense of them saying how they did a better job than people with two kids. I bet she has changed her opinion a lot since then.

[feministing]

They're probably like the some of my fundie Muslim relatives... they wear hijabs and modest clothing in public, but when they're in the house and it's just family they don't wear the hijab and wear shorts, tank tops or whatever they find comfortable.

Maybe it's like this with the Duggars. Maybe they were wearing pants in the house when it's just family so that they could be comfortable. You don't need to be modest around people you obviously can't/wouldn't marry, right? You can't defraud your brother, right?

I'm thinking Joy was probably working out and then threw on a skirt because people outside her family would be seeing her on camera. I know the Duggars are obsessed with their girls being skinny and pretty future helpmeets to please their perverted God(thard), and it's not like you can safely run on a treadmill or elliptical in a knee-length skirt. It's not uncommon for fundie women to work out in pants. As for Hannie, it's probably just hand-me-down leggings that are a bit big on her.

[lilwriter85]

Agree with lilwriter. i used to be a fan too in spite of being a moderate liberal. I never knew who they were before since I didn't keep up with reality tv. I saw a headline reading "family has 17th child', but never paid much attention. I would defend them quite a bit saying if they could afford the children, so what if they have 17 or dress more modest than the rest of us?. Maybe it was Josh and Anna's wedding that raised a flag can't recall exactly. I actually believed they choose to live that way which Jim Bob and Michelle do, but they are not letting their kids choose. Humpers fail to see how much work the older girls do. They alsos fail to see the toddlers wondering about or the kids running to their sister moms when something happens instead of their own mother. It happened to Jennifer then Jordyn. I could go on and on here. If they weren't relgious I would still have concerns. Once Amy posted on an article in defense of them saying how they did a better job than people with two kids. I bet she has changed her opinion a lot since then.

In their pre-series documentaries I thought the Duggars were ok. I was 18 or 19 when I first watched their documentaries. Back then, I was more conservative and religious. In my early 20s, some of my political beliefs changed and I became an atheist. Around the time when the regular show started in 2008, I felt something was off with the Duggars and through research I realized how messed up hardcore fundies can be. Prior to learning more about the QF hardcore fundies, I knew a small fundie lite family and they reminded me of the Duggars in some ways. Looking back that family was more sane than the Duggars are.

I also used to think that large families were ok, if the parents could support them. With the Duggars and other QF families, I learned that they do take handouts from churches and other people. Boob and Mullet admitted in an interview to getting handouts from the church they used to attend. From reading other fundie blogs, I do see that many of these fundie families aren't completely supporting their families on their own. The only time Boob and Mullet probably didn't get handouts or donations was was when they only had the older four kids. I bet after kid 5, they started looking to their church for help. I don't think Boob and Mullet are any better than people on food stamps or on welfare. It irritates me whenever the leghumpers say "Well the Duggars aren't on government assistance." My guesses are that the Duggars had probably been taking handouts via their former church and others for at least a decade or more before the show started. There are some people who are only welfare or food stamps for short periods of time. In a way, I think the Duggars are kind of worse than some welfare recipients. I also wouldn't be surprised if people from their former church got irritated with the Duggars. It is one thing for a family to fall on hard luck because of job loss or illness, but it is another to see a a couple have a large family that they can't completely support on their own.

I have seen people make the same crazy comments like Amy did about the Duggars handling a large family better than parents with two kids. Those comments are bullshit because the Duggars use an extreme buddy system and the J'Slaves often ignore certain problems. Buddy systems have been common in large families in the past. My mother was the youngest of 8 kids and some of her older siblings helped care for her. But the huge differences were that my grandparents were ranchers and my grandmother was often out in the fields doing ranch duties. Also my mom's older siblings left home between the ages of 18 to 20. I have met other people who came from large ranching and farming families where buddy systems were used. My mom and two of my aunts have watched 19kac and they think the Duggars are too extreme with their buddy system.

[JenniferJuniper]

If memory serves me, some years ago a friend or neighbor posted somewhere that Joy wears pants at home. Those don't look like leggings. And I don't think I've ever seen a J-girl wearing Converse style sneakers either.

[Dollypeeps]

There is another lass there wearing trousers to not just Joy. I haven't heard of Joy ever being allowed to wear trousers before?

[SPHASH]

They're probably like the some of my fundie Muslim relatives... they wear hijabs and modest clothing in public, but when they're in the house and it's just family they don't wear the hijab and wear shorts, tank tops or whatever they find comfortable.

Maybe it's like this with the Duggars. Maybe they were wearing pants in the house when it's just family so that they could be comfortable. You don't need to be modest around people you obviously can't/wouldn't marry, right? You can't defraud your brother, right?

I'm thinking Joy was probably working out and then threw on a skirt because people outside her family would be seeing her on camera. I know the Duggars are obsessed with their girls being skinny and pretty future helpmeets to please their perverted God(thard), and it's not like you can safely run on a treadmill or elliptical in a knee-length skirt. It's not uncommon for fundie women to work out in pants. As for Hannie, it's probably just hand-me-down leggings that are a bit big on her.

The girls ran that fun run in skirts, and they boys ran in jeans. As a former runner that had to have been uncomfortable, but then again Boob and Mullet aren't concerned about their kids comfort.

[feministing]

The girls ran that fun run in skirts, and they boys ran in jeans. As a former runner that had to have been uncomfortable, but then again Boob and Mullet aren't concerned about their kids comfort.

That is because they were in public. Also, they were probably trying to make a statement with the skirts to flaunt their lifestyle. You need to understand, some religious people (including hijabi muslims) do NOT follow their dress code when they are in the privacy of their own home among just family. Their rationale is that it is unlikely they will defraud their male siblings because they aren't allowed to marry/date/have sex anyway and siblings aren't typically attracted to each other since that's how God made them. Or whatever.

It is likely that when it is JUST immediate family, in the privacy of their own home, it is perfectly acceptable for the girls to lax the dress code a bit. But the second there is a chance they will encounter people who are not in the family, they will put on their modest gear - just like how muslims put on the hijab whenever they are in the public eye - like in All American Muslim when the hijabis wore their hijabs in the house when with family - normally if the cameras weren't on they wouldn't be wearing the hijabs, but because they are in the public eye, despite being in the privacy of their own home, they will wear the headscarf. It's an analogous concept. Does this make sense?

So in sum, it is not the activity that determines to the superfundies whether they will dress modestly, but the chance that they will defraud people or be defrauded. The chances of this happening in a family, according to fundies who believe that "god" made people to not be attracted to their siblings, are slim - so the reason for modesty in the first place just isn't there. But the second the cameras go on and they are in the public eye and will be seen by others - no matter what they do, they will uphold the "modest" dress code because there is a chance they will defraud men (even though they can't really get defrauded back, but it's a 2-way street).

[Lillybee]

Didn't Joy go on a rock climbing wall in a skirt?

[JenniferJuniper]

Didn't Joy go on a rock climbing wall in a skirt?

In a skirt and flip flops. But she was being filmed for the show at the time. And the fact that she wore flip flops whilst rock climbing is why I find it curious that she's wearing sneakers in this video.

I agree with feministing. I bet they don't necessarily follow the same rules at home when there's no danger of encountering anyone they might defraud and that this video may have been impromptu as several of the older kids and Justin are missing. I also think Hannie is wearing some type of track/sweatpants. They are too baggy for leggings and appear to have stripes running down the sides. James's trousers look more like leggings than those things do.

[feministing]

Didn't Joy go on a rock climbing wall in a skirt?

Probably. But 1. She was in PUBLIC and 2. She was being filmed. Therefore there is a chance someone will be defrauded by her if she were wearing pants.

Let me reiterate: The purpose of dressing modestly is to avoid defrauding people. If there are no people that can be defrauded watching you, or no chance that you will be defrauded, then there is no reason to dress modestly. This is why fundies when in the privacy of their own home and family do not follow their modest dress code.

Things you learn from having a fundie muslim family.

[Lady]

I wanted Grandma to say, "500,000? That's only 6 months of laundry, come back when you've got something good."

[Lillybee]

Probably. But 1. She was in PUBLIC and 2. She was being filmed. Therefore there is a chance someone will be defrauded by her if she were wearing pants.

Let me reiterate: The purpose of dressing modestly is to avoid defrauding people. If there are no people that can be defrauded watching you, or no chance that you will be defrauded, then there is no reason to dress modestly. This is why fundies when in the privacy of their own home and family do not follow their modest dress code.

Things you learn from having a fundie muslim family.

I don't know how informally the Duggars dress at home but I do remember that Mullet said that the J'Slaves sleep in skirts and polos.

[feministing]

I don't know how informally the Duggars dress at home but I do remember that Mullet said that the J'Slaves sleep in skirts and polos.

Yes but they probably work out in track pants when nobody outside their family is around. The rules probably still apply, albeit much more lax. I don't know why Hannie would be wearing pants. Though it's probably because rules are lax at home in private.

Also, they did loosen up a bit in the 9 years since they've been doing the show.