Why All The Single Ladies Should Sign-up For 1TonRamp

[lilith]

I think that the main purpose of 1tonramp, and what the customers are actually paying for, is being able to say "Ezekiel Titus graduated homeschool early at 15 and now, cause he's so gifted with computers, he's already doing an online IT program run by a godly family so he can learn his computer skills without being exposed to pornography and other Internet evils. And his sister Virginia Faith can do it with him to provide accountability and without having to interact with young men".

Nobody is actually planning on using this as a qualification for further education or a job (I hope). It's to allow fundie homeschoolers to say that their system works and their kids do go on to higher education, even their daughters.

[twin2]

I find this all the more obnoxious when they still have this in their FAQ:

Yes, ladies, please sign up for our course! You will not be getting the same level of service that a man would get, but pay us anyway :roll:

I know this is an absolutely crazy idea, but I'm just going to throw it out there. What if Nathan and Joesph worked with Anna till she became as much of an expert as them. Then when the single ladies call the help line, the can get the technical experience without the risk of being defrauded. I know, it is a pretty far out there idea, but maybe, just maybe, Lord Baby Jesus willing, it just might solve the problem.

[kpmom]

If the forum is the place for technical questions then what exactly is the weekly phone call from a mentor for anyway?

[lilith]

If the forum is the place for technical questions then what exactly is the weekly phone call from a mentor for anyway?

Spiritual guidance.

[YPestis]

I think the Maxwells started ITonRamp because they were already in the IT business. Nathan has the know-how, they had the hardware and can write for any software they need. Teaching IT online is also easier than teaching construction or photography (other skills the Maxwell boys have). It was a simple business decision. I guess Sarah could teach writing...LOL, j/k. :)

[MamaJunebug]

Don't think this has been mentioned before - I see this in a glass-half-full scenario: If Caesar Stevenius is marketing to the harlots who are single mothers, then 1TonRamp isn't making much from their preferred markets: young boys preparing to be entrepreneurs.

If the parents of boys preparing to be entrepreneurs aren't making 1Ton profitable, then it means either the potential customer base is shrinking (unlikely) or that same base sees that 1Ton is not worth its fees.

Try something else, Sir Steve Of Never Leave! Maybe, oh, I dunno ... a housecleaning service? Where the boys clean the houses, because the girls can't be allowed into earthly, sinful homes without protection?

[Inky]

It sounds like a very sorry excuse for an online program. And could the reason for pushing the envelopes have anything to do with the administration charges Maxwells would have to pay for credit card transactions? If you break it down into 3 or 4 payments on a CC, they get charged more for admin. Better you save up til you can pay it in one lump sum - so only 1 transaction.

And wasn't Josh Duggar taking courses, or promoting, one ton ramp courses at one time? (Sorry, I never see it as IT OnRamp.) I wonder what happened with that. Of course it's a moo point - Daddy gave him a car lot.

(Moo point - It's like a cow's opinion; it just doesn't matter)

[Maggie Mae]

I know this is an absolutely crazy idea, but I'm just going to throw it out there. What if Nathan and Joesph worked with Anna till she became as much of an expert as them. Then when the single ladies call the help line, the can get the technical experience without the risk of being defrauded. I know, it is a pretty far out there idea, but maybe, just maybe, Lord Baby Jesus willing, it just might solve the problem.

Girls can't play computer stuff! I don't have technicians, I've got girls!

Working with Anna would mean that Anna isn't working on her womanly skills.

[Justme]

I think the Maxwells started ITonRamp because they were already in the IT business. Nathan has the know-how, they had the hardware and can write for any software they need. Teaching IT online is also easier than teaching construction or photography (other skills the Maxwell boys have). It was a simple business decision. I guess Sarah could teach writing...LOL, j/k. :)

And because their other revenue streams are drying up. Look at how many less comments they get on their blog posts from a few years ago. (And I bet half of them are from "trolls" :whistle: designed to look like "fans".)

Stevie doesn't give a hoot about single Mothers. He only cares about lining his own pockets. After all, the Mothers shouldn't be "single". If they really "trusted", then they would have not been divorced or "sent" a new husband if widowed. (Ya know, that waiting for a husband to "drop" out of the sky is workin' real good for Sarah.)

[kpmom]

Try something else, Sir Steve Of Never Leave! Maybe, oh, I dunno ... a housecleaning service? Where the boys clean the houses, because the girls can't be allowed into earthly, sinful homes without protection?

That made me laugh.

Re. the Maxwells accepting/not accepting credit cards that Inky brought up. I'd be very curious to know if they accept credit cards at their speaking engagements.

Someone here who went to one said people buy arm loads of books at these events. It seems like they would accept credit cards, but maybe not.

[Inky]

I'd imagine they'd have to accept credit cards, but it would be grudgingly. I know in the wine store we deal with here, they prefer that you pay with either debit or cash when possible, because of the high percentage charged by the CC companies.

[moreorlessnu]

In order for the 'girls' to have a business reloading software and cleaning viruses off computers, and yet still be safe, the customers would have to bring their computers to the girls' home. Isn't it more convenient to have the computer service person show up at your house and fix the computer, especially if it's a busy home w/ small children, or a person who has difficulty getting out of the house?

[sparkles]

I can't see them accepting credit cards at all. First, it would mean having to pay processing fees to the credit card companies. But second, a big part of their message is the importance of being debt free and even though many people only use credit cards as a matter of convenience and pay their balance in full each month, for many others credit cards mean debt, which the Maxwells could never condone. I'm pretty sure their audience is well aware of this and would have plenty of cash on hand.

[Lillybee]

Does anyone know how much Steve is charging for this course?

[twin2]

Does anyone know how much Steve is charging for this course?

Courses range from $200-$1000

Reasons why 1 Ton Ramp rules and college drools!!

How is ITonRamp different from college?

ITonRamp is not accredited. Our credentials will be those we have helped.

ITonRamp is designed to be as affordable as possible and is therefore much less expensive than most colleges.

ITonRamp tracks are as short as possible making them less time intensive than college. Thereby the learner is able to quickly put what he learning to use and spend more time earning income.

ITonRamp allows the student to focus all his time and energy on his end goal without having to take peripheral courses.

ITonRamp is focused on practical, vocational skills as opposed to earning a diploma.

ITonRamp avoids the humanistic, evolutionistic, ungodly biases of most colleges.

ITonRamp is accomplished in a home-learning environment making it more convenient and cost effective than college. Plus students will avoid the negative influences inherently found on a college campus.

[kpmom]

A few thoughts;

I've never heard of a technical school practically bragging about being unaccredited. I've seen one or two people on their blog talking about their classes, but that doesn't seem like a whole lot of "credentials".

How many college computer classes get into evolution?

They talk about the classes being affordable, but some knowledgeable people here at FJ have mentioned the $1000 for the A+ class is exorbitant. Is that a class you could take at a local community college?

[defrauding]

They talk about the classes being affordable, but some knowledgeable people here at FJ have mentioned the $1000 for the A+ class is exorbitant. Is that a class you could take at a local community college?

In Los Angeles, you can pay $372 for a sequence of three online courses at SMC that prepares you for the A+ certification exam (but doesn't offer college credit). If you want in-person classes and college credit, you can pay $709-$755 (student fees included) for a four-course sequence at LACC.

Edit: It turns out that the Maxwells charge $1000 for the equivalent of one SMC course. While that includes the exam fee ($183), it's still more than six times as expensive ((1000-183) / 124) since materials are free for both courses.

[yewnique]

I find this all the more obnoxious when they still have this in their FAQ:

Yes, ladies, please sign up for our course! You will not be getting the same level of service that a man would get, but pay us anyway :roll:

This is disgusting by itself. But I think to get the fuller picture, the question needs to be shown:

Whoa, so some guy is going to be spending time on the phone with my twenty-one-year-old daughter "mentoring" her? I don't like the sound of that!

At this point we anticipate the mentors to be men. To enable propriety and no possibility of defrauding, direct phone conversations will be from a person of the same gender. Therefore, if there are ladies in a track, the phone call to them will be via a female mentor assistant. The mentor assistant will not have the technical experience that the mentor has, but she will provide the one-on-one personal encouragement that the mentor would have provided. Since, the forum is the place for technical questions, this will not be a hindrance in any way.

It appears there are parents out there who don't like the idea that their TWENTY-ONE-year-old ADULT daughter (who is still living at home waiting for a courter) having a five-to-ten-minute mentoring session with a member of the opposite gender!!

[yewnique]

How many college computer classes get into evolution?

I'm guessing they can't talk about how computer technology has evolved over the years and have to emphasise man's special role in the Creation of computers.

[gardenvarietycitizen]

How many college computer classes get into evolution?

As an actual bona-fide computer programmer (as in, getting PAID FOR IT and supporting my household on it - yes, as a WOMAN, Steve-O! Working with MEN even!) I wondered the same thing. Other than POSSIBLY some references in genetic algorithms (which is a fairly niche topic) I can't recall ever hearing about evolution either in classes or on the job.

[AKay]

As an actual bona-fide computer programmer (as in, getting PAID FOR IT and supporting my household on it - yes, as a WOMAN, Steve-O! Working with MEN even!) I wondered the same thing. Other than POSSIBLY some references in genetic algorithms (which is a fairly niche topic) I can't recall ever hearing about evolution either in classes or on the job.

No kidding. I work in IT in the financial industry. We don't tend to spend too much time discussing Darwin at work.

[darkplumaged]

Isn't it possible that if one of those "single mothers" started a oh-so-godly home business restoring people's hard drives or whatever that she might find ebil pr0n files on some of those computers? Did you ever think of THAT, Steve-o? :twisted:

[ceg045]

Isn't it possible that if one of those "single mothers" started a oh-so-godly home business restoring people's hard drives or whatever that she might find ebil pr0n files on some of those computers? Did you ever think of THAT, Steve-o? :twisted:

Of course not! She would only provide her services to God fearing Christians (after an extensive background check and written exam, of course), and we all know God fearing Christians never, ever look at teh pr0n. :pray:

[YPestis]

As an actual bona-fide computer programmer (as in, getting PAID FOR IT and supporting my household on it - yes, as a WOMAN, Steve-O! Working with MEN even!) I wondered the same thing. Other than POSSIBLY some references in genetic algorithms (which is a fairly niche topic) I can't recall ever hearing about evolution either in classes or on the job.

Yeah, I agree. Engineering is a fundie-friendly profession precisely because it's akin to the vocational education that they like, and it doesn't require knowledge of evolution and birth control.

Honestly, the only CS class I took that had evolution was a computational biology course where they were teaching how to design programs for the human genome. It was a joint effort taught by a biologist and a computer scientist. The biologist gave everyone a brief overview of human genetics and evolutionary biology. I guess it would make a fundie run screaming down a hall.....

[snarkyjan]

I can't speculate whether the Maxwells are imparting any actual knowledge with their courses. But I can't see completion of them putting the students any closer to actual jobs in IT, tech support or computer repair because the Maxwells are NOT Microsoft, Cisco, CompTIA-authorized certification testers. Even if I think I'm THE BOMB when it comes to computers (I'm not) my opinion of myself means nothing unless it's quantified by a recognized, reputable certifying agency-Microsoft, Cisco, CompTIA,, Novell, etc. If I can't produce a certificate from one of these certifiers, confirming that I met their specs and passed their tests, then whatever I learned from the Maxwells' One Ton Ramp is just money down the drain. Their course materials might enable me to pass the certifying tests, but are no substitute for actual certificates. For the money the Maxwells are charging, a really ambitious person could buy textbooks/sample tests at any bookstore and study on their own, for a fraction of the price.

Call me cynical, but "One Ton Ramp" sounds like Maxwell-ese for "College Minus".