Whiner lady says bring it on FJ lol

[Closed Womb]

I think we can see how things are twisted by comparing:

Jenny: "one woman even went so far as to say that Matthew will likely become a serial killer"

Experiencedd: "I wonder what Matthew is going to think about his mom when he's in his teens and reads her blog about him? I swear it's like some of these woman are raising up potential mass murderers."

Let me translate:

Jenny: That mean feminist said my precious lamb is going to be a murderer.

Experiencedd: Jenny is posting thing on the internet that might have real life ramifications some day. Some of these women are doing serious harm. Let me use absurdity to illustrate!

I wonder what the "threats" really said.

And, I second the earlier comment that, "You're going to hell" is hardly a threat, especially if the "victim" believes otherwise.

[Minerva]

Doesn't GOMI sort of have a "do not contact the bloggers directly" unspoken rule? I guess it could be lurkers from here or there though. I'm sort of surprised she didn't address GOMI since they linked directly to her and (I assume) have a bigger readership. I bet FJ just makes a better persecution story because we snark on fun dies exclusively while GOMI covers everything.

Given that GOMI linked directly to her, shouldn't she have been aware of them by the time she wrote Backlash?

[Three and Done]

There is a whole movement filled with parents who think that pediatricians are going to be 'programing' children for birth control' and other 'evils' should kids see Drs. privately. It was a big talking point on The Blaze (rightwingnut news). I started noticing the chatter about this last spring and heard it a few frightwing radio hosts have conversations along these lines. Some parents see this as an infringement of their parental rights. IMHO parental rights to me is a code word that indicates a parent feels their children are property and not people.

ALL of this!!

I have three daughters, with two still at home. They are 17 and 12, and as they have gotten older (and the same with my oldest, when she was at home), I have ALWAYS asked them if they want me to come back with them. I typically get a look that says "Are you stupid, Mom? I want you to come with me." But, then again, I am the kind of Mom that has always found age appropriate ways to discuss bodies, sex, etc. I am the one that made the appt. at PP for my 17 yr old to get birth control. I see this as MY JOB, yet I am sure that the fundies would say I am going to hell for it.

[Alecto]

Given that GOMI linked directly to her, shouldn't she have been aware of them by the time she wrote Backlash?

Not everyone is internet savvy enough to know how to check that kind of thing.

[snarkbillie]

If she is to be believed I would change doctors if I were her. These are minor children and it is her prerogative as their parent to decide whether or not the medical professionals are overstepping boundaries. If she was looking for mental health professionals she would have taken them to specialists such as a child psychologist or psychiatrist.

Nope. The doctors are responsible for treating the patients. The children are their patients, not the parents. I want my kids to have an open dialog with their doctor about ANYTHING including mental health issues, their private lives, etc. Too many kids hide things out of fear of what their parents will do to them and it's dangerous.

[snarkbillie]

Some bloggers persecute easy. However, if this were a legitimate hate mail, the internet has ways of shutting it down. When a blogger falsely cries persecution, it makes it that much harder for victims of real persecution to come forward. :roll:

:lol:

[OkToBeTakei]

Wow. Somebody should post her the link to the Gomi comments. They make ours look positively lovin' :lol:

[snarkbillie]

My doc just didn't invite them in from the waiting room, and if they followed, he asked them to leave. No asking me, because what if I was afraid to say I didn't want them in there? It was a good idea, too. My dad was furious when, at 17, I said he wasn't to be in the room for my consultation. When he was informed that the doctor wanted it that way, he was happy to oblige.

Yeah, my oldest is getting into teenage territory and I got up to follow her back at her last check up and the nurse was like "you can sit out here, we'll come get you if she needs you." So, I turned around and went back to the waiting room. They did come get me for the end of the appointment and told me all about her health and check up. I think I just was going back out of habit. She's old enough to go alone now. It's a little teary for me.

[OkToBeTakei]

I may be a little stupid here. But where on the blog is her e-mail address? I can't find it. She says to leave your e-mail in the comment section and she will contact you. Just wondering if I am missing the obvious. Just makes me wonder how she received all the nasty e-mails.

[Convicted Blossom]

I may be a little stupid here. But where on the blog is her e-mail address? I can't find it. She says to leave your e-mail in the comment section and she will contact you. Just wondering if I am missing the obvious. Just makes me wonder how she received all the nasty e-mails.

I've just clicked through the blog and the link to the daughter's photography blog. The weird thing is that you can email the daughter at her blog -- a reply post comes up but you have to go through comments to the Whiner lady.

That said, an FJer would not post what she claimed to have received. I'm new and I know that, people here plead the case for kid. She's either lying or some lurker has posted such trash.

[OkToBeTakei]

I've just clicked through the blog and the link to the daughter's photography blog. The weird thing is that you can email the daughter at her blog -- a reply post comes up but you have to go through comments to the Whiner lady.

That said, an FJer would not post what she claimed to have received. I'm new and I know that, people here plead the case for kid. She's either lying or some lurker has posted such trash.

So not just me then. So is she making up the e-mails I wonder?

[Fargood]

I'm not surprised if she is exaggerating about the emails. Like a lot of fundies we see/read, even when things are falling apart, the brainwashing is so complete that they exaggerate the perfection. "My husband just lost his job and our only source of income, but it's okay! Everything is GREEEAT! Praise Jesus!"

When FJ came along with a little dose of critical thinking, it was like someone came and took a big dump all over her 5000 square feet of artificial perfection. Interesting, though, that her natural response is to see the other side as ebil and to have to exaggerate the perceived hate so that the bright line between her and FJ is easier for the world to see. Not at all out of character for a fundie, I'd say.

[mockingbird]

^This. There isn't some magic by which parents automatically know of their minor children's mental health problems. The blogger has a right to say whether her boundaries were overstepped, but it doesn't trump her children's right to safety and adequate healthcare.

And I was one of those teens who didn't mind if my mom came back (I had some serious health problems as a teen so it was important that my parents talked to the doctors, anyway, to get accurate info about what was going on) but she still got kicked out of the appointment at some point. You just never know, even if the family seems nice and seems like they get along, what could be happening. Luckily nothing with me and my family, but that's not always the case.

[Sprocket]

I'm late to the whiner blog.... but holy shit. I got to the picture of her rental house and I'm dying to know what she's paying in rent for that McMansion.

[Minerva]

So not just me then. So is she making up the e-mails I wonder?

I'm betting she only just changed the "contact us" section. It's unusual for bloggers to not include their email addresses unless they've already had altercations.

[OkToBeTakei]

I'm betting she only just changed the "contact us" section. It's unusual for bloggers to not include their email addresses unless they've already had altercations.

Ah..yes. That makes sense. No way to check if that was always her policy.

I think she is trying to move along now and bury the situation with her recent post.

[Sprocket]

It took me less than five minutes to find her daughter's gmail account, so I'm sure that if someone wanted to email her directly, they could. She's an adult, so I feel okay stating my opinion that I think her daughter's photography skills suck and it would be a shame if she was actually charging for the photoshoots. Hopefully, her "photography school" will enhance whatever mediocre talent she has.

[ceg045]

Not to mention that telling the daughter that she was "going to hell" doesn't sound like a very FJ-esque response. First of all, a good portion of us aren't religious or hold religious beliefs that don't include a hell. Second, if/when we do directly confront a blogger, it's more to question the social implications of their religious beliefs (homophobia, anti-choice/contraception, racism, etc.) than engaging in dogmatic speculation.

"You're going to hell" sounds like the worst insult a super-religious Christian (ie, the mother making it up or a troll) could think of.

[Minerva]

Her latest post contains no mention, explicit or passive-aggressive, of the recent drama. Good for her. Bloggers often call out threatening messages they receive, and I do not fault her for doing that. However, she showed her inexperience by making a big deal of her blog's (presumably) first ever criticism. Frankly, it did not make her look reasonable, or professional, and I hope she realized that.

I'm relieved to hear she's letting her daughter work, move out and get an education. I hope her daughter is one of those rare teens who would consent to having their uterus issues aired by their parents for all to see, because I'd have been righteously pissed if my parents did that.

[OkToBeTakei]

In response to being called unchristian in her comments.

Jenny said...

Our God is a loving God, but sin is sin and God cannot look on sin when His people turn their back on Him and rebel against His Commandments. God judges the sin of His people throughout the entire Bible. Sodom and Gomorrah are a prime example. To read about the End Times the best places in the Bible are Matthew 24 and the book of Revelation. Our God is a holy God and He calls His people to live in holiness. The United States of America is in full-scale rebellion against our holy God. Even as believers and people who love God and are Christians, we all sin every day – it is the nature of “man.†But as believers we can ask our heavenly Father to forgive our sin and it is done instantly. And our intention is always to live our lives as God would have us live them. We are talking here about people who refuse to believe in God, who live immoral, rebellious lives. And this nation is at that point. And God will bring judgment as He did in Bible times. If you look back at the founding of this nation, you will find that it was totally founded on Godly principles according to the Bible. We were founded as a Christian nation. That is no longer true. “God†is deliberately being taken out of every public and now private and even Christian institutions. This is just the beginning of those judgments unless we as a nation repent of the sin of our rebellion. Barrack Obama has accelerated the downfall of this nation. God cannot tolerate homosexuality. God cannot tolerate abortion. Those are just the top two on the list of abominations of this nation.

November 4, 2012 4:51 PM

Interesting considering in the preceding post she said she had no time to explain her beliefs as she had 8 kids church etc. Obviously had a quick change of heart.

I think basically what she is trying to say is if you are a good Christian and sin but ask God for forgiveness then you are 'A' OK. But if you have an abortion or are an evil gay, well basically you are doomed because the bible tells you so.

She appears to have it all sorted.

So as she said in quite an outrageous tone OF COURSE she would not wish death on people herself, but it appears she is happy enough for her 'God' to take care of it. I must be quite stupid because as far as I am concerned she is just as culpable but uses that as a convenient excuse. Prior to the last few days I found her blog interesting and enjoyed the 'snark' her whinging brought. Bit off a piss take but fun. Now I find her repugnant.

It matters not. She has judged everybody who disagrees with her as wrong/evil and she is quite happy with that sitting in her complacent corner.

As somebody said in the GOMI comments when the end of time comes she'll have great fun standing next to God helping out with all the judgements :lol:

[Coconut Flan]

My oldest daughter is cranky. When the nurse tried to separate us the first time and ask her questions, she just got up and yelled mom come tell her to leave me alone. After that she simply grabbed my hand or arm and took me with her. The poor nurse said it's my job. I said well if she doesn't want to talk to you without me, then it's my job to be with her as long as she's a minor.

We got home and daughter said the nurse was asking too many nosy questions she didn't want to answer to her or have in their file.

[Deleted03]

I went to the ER when I was about 12 or 13 for menstrual pains, and the doctor asked me some questions. The mom of my friend was in the room with me, and at some point she asked her to leave and the doctor asked me if I had a boyfriend and if I was having sex. The first test they did was a pregnancy test too.

They have to do that, because it's one of the main cause.

I think you should tell your kid to say that they're not comfortable answering that while explaining why it can be needed. If the nurse or doctors has to ask question without you being here, I find it just might be better to teach your kid that they always have a right to privacy, explain what kinds of question are appropriate (are you using condoms? Appropriate What positions are you having sex? Inappropriate) and say that she also has the right to refuse giving answers.

I don't think I believe her BS about the nurse asking the exact same questions in front of the parents - what's the purpose? What does it bring to the nurse to know if the kid lies to the parent? If the kid actually lies, it's gonna say it to the nurse, asking if the info is confidential or saying that they have to hide.

Edited because I can't remember how old I was when this incident happened.

[Sinister Rouge]

If " God cannot tolerate abortions", then why does he cause women who are going to abort to become pregnant in the first place? I'd ask her, but I can't be bolluxed to create an account to do so.

[Minerva]

If " God cannot tolerate abortions", then why does he cause women who are going to abort to become pregnant in the first place? I'd ask her, but I can't be bolluxed to create an account to do so.

:lol: That's a perfect example of fundies pulling info about God out of their ass. Nothing in the Bible can be used to make an argument against abortion.

[Coconut Flan]

In our case, I knew that nurse and I didn't care for her either. Part of rearing children is teaching them to stand up for themselves in medical and other situations. If daughter wanted her mother, she's entitled to her mother to back off an overly pushy nurse. I knew she wasn't having sex, doing drugs, or anything else that might be private. The doctor kind of laughed and said I'm sure you've already covered all of that. I said yes and she has the card for my gynecologist when she thinks it's time, but I'm not going to push her unless something changes.

There's overprotecting and there's standing up for what your kid wants, too. A lot of things that are pro forma, I opt out of just because to me they aren't worthwhile in my life. My kids have learned to actually think about things and not go along for the sake of conformity.