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Hehe from her comments. Wonder if she will leave it up. Awkward.

Kristen said...

If you won't be silenced, why did you delete the post that caused all the controversy?

November 2, 2012 6:17 PM

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*Le sigh* it sounds like that Lacey thing is still around. It's not our fault it goes around harassing people in FJ's name, but part of me wants to apologize for it, the same way I apologize for offensive family members or hateful Christians.

That being said - this woman made a blog post implying that the communities who were hit by a hurricane brought it on themselves and she's surprised that she got angry emails? You run a public blog with a reasonable following; it comes with the territory. Inappropriate emails are, of course, inappropriate. But when someone with enough visibility publishes a controversial opinion, it garners attention as people discuss it and share it with their networks, and dissenting emails come in. It's pretty ignorant to get rude emails about a blog post and assume that it's a plot orchestrated by the only visible group you can find discussing it. Not only is (polite) negative feedback normal, it's a sign that your blog is reaching people, and there are adult ways of handling it that don't involve denouncing the way the internet works or dramatic comments about how, well, at least some people appreciate me :snooty: . I mean, hey, if that's how someone wants to handle it, they can go right ahead, but it won't necessarily make them look good.

I can't believe she's surprised about what the nurses did. That's a totally normal thing for medical practitioners to do. They need to ask certain questions in order to best care for their patients' physical and mental health, and they need honest answers if they want to do a good job, so they find ways of asking them in the parents' absence. They check for abuse this way, they check whether teens are sexually active this way, drugs and alcohol, mental health factors like sexual orientation - anything they may not feel safe discussing in front of their parents. Does it interfere with your ability to micromanage your kids' interactions with the medical system? Yes. But a) your kids aren't your property, and b) sometimes in order to keep all children safe, we need to make the compromise of having a bit less control over our own children. Besides, if your teenagers behaving and believing as you want them to depends on them never being told things you disagree with...it's not hard to see how that plan will fail in short order.

What do you know, a standard medical practise is now the liberal agenda. Where'd I put my tinfoil hat?

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Where'd I put my tinfoil hat?

Totally off topic, but when I once told a colleague about FJ his first question was, "Do you have to wear tinfoil hats?" So now if I reference it, I call it "my tinfoil hat forum."

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I sincerely doubt her children received any emails. If they did, you know she would have posted them.

I do too. Or at least would have provided more detail as to what the emails said.

Of course she may be the type to think that any one on one online communication is email.

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The more I think about it the more suspicious I become. The woman want's complete oversight of her children's meetings with their physicians, but doesn't monitor their internet use? I really can't buy it at this point.

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OH my, I'm thinking the comments are not what she is expecting. Also not from FJ ers it appears. Seems she annoyed quite a few with her ill-advised post.

smooshmisha said...

Ah, I so know how you feel about judgement. Here I was, just sitting at home with my fiance reading the internet and I saw a link to a post where someone was trying to argue that people like me (non-Christian, liberal, gay) are SO HATED by their god that god would punish thousands and millions of people so we should change.

I know how you feel about people wanting to silence you and make it so you feel ashamed and worried about living my life the way you were born to. But, like you, I won't be silenced.

You think everyone should be exactly like you if they are to benefit from your god's love. I just want to be exactly who I am without people like you (and the millions of other vocal extremist Christians) telling me I am unworthy or hated.

tl;dr please don't whine about how hard it is to be judged when that is exactly what you were doing in the first place.

November 2, 2012 6:57 PM

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I do too. Or at least would have provided more detail as to what the emails said.

Of course she may be the type to think that any one on one online communication is email.

Well she blatantly lied in the post, and the rest was shall we be kind and say..revisionist?

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Nope no bodily harm wished upon her. Tchotckes (sp) Did ask her to kiss her ass. Might be it :lol:

I think somebody posted they wish they could shake her. That might be what she's referring to :think: LOL

She obviously didn't read our forum rules - you can't threaten anybody with bodily harm. Sheesh

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I think somebody posted they wish they could shake her. That might be what she's referring to :think: LOL

She obviously didn't read our forum rules - you can't threaten anybody with bodily harm. Sheesh

I think Jenny should come on over for a visit and show us the post she references.

:greetings-wavingyellow: Hi Jenny.

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I think Jenny should come on over for a visit and show us the post she references.

:greetings-wavingyellow: Hi Jenny.

She's too busy on her blog telling folk she is NOT whining :lol:

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You know why I don't believe it came from a FJite regular? Because she said the e-mail told her daughter she was going to hell. That's fundy talk, not FJ talk. We don't tell people to go to hell.

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You know why I don't believe it came from a FJite regular? Because she said the e-mail told her daughter she was going to hell. That's fundy talk, not FJ talk. We don't tell people to go to hell.

True that. That sounds like a certain troll I know of...

Am I the only one who thinks it's over the top to be offended when someone tells you you're going to hell? I mean, she clearly doesn't believe she or her daughter are going to hell, so why the big deal? Yes, it's creepy that someone allegedly contacted her daughter at all (but I maintain it's silly to assume it was one of us just because we happened to the most visible of the people discussing her). "You're going to hell" is a laughable insult, though.

The more I think about it the more suspicious I become. The woman want's complete oversight of her children's meetings with their physicians, but doesn't monitor their internet use? I really can't buy it at this point.

Good point, that.

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What I want to know is why she was in the exam room with her teenage daughters in the first place. I suppose they could have requested it, or not minded it, but it still seems odd to me. Usually (around here), doctors ask kids 12+ if they want their parent or guardian in the room with them.

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My favorite line is where she insinuates that we complainers aren't real ladies when she has post after post of complain-bragging about her fancy possessions. Pot, kettle!

LOL, I hate when people deem others as lady like or unlady like by their standards. From most of the books I've read woman are complaining and still considered lady like. (pride and prejudice)

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What I want to know is why she was in the exam room with her teenage daughters in the first place. I suppose they could have requested it, or not minded it, but it still seems odd to me. Usually (around here), doctors ask kids 12+ if they want their parent or guardian in the room with them.

My doc just didn't invite them in from the waiting room, and if they followed, he asked them to leave. No asking me, because what if I was afraid to say I didn't want them in there? It was a good idea, too. My dad was furious when, at 17, I said he wasn't to be in the room for my consultation. When he was informed that the doctor wanted it that way, he was happy to oblige.

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If she is to be believed I would change doctors if I were her. These are minor children and it is her prerogative as their parent to decide whether or not the medical professionals are overstepping boundaries. If she was looking for mental health professionals she would have taken them to specialists such as a child psychologist or psychiatrist.

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If she is to be believed I would change doctors if I were her. These are minor children and it is her prerogative as their parent to decide whether or not the medical professionals are overstepping boundaries. If she was looking for mental health professionals she would have taken them to specialists such as a child psychologist or psychiatrist.

I totally disagree. Minors MUST be screened for high-risk situations - most of which occur IN the home - and no matter how pretty the family picture looks, assessing for children's safety must always be a physician's priority. I think it is such bullshit for her to imply that because the doctor "knows the family" that they don't need to ask the kids about drugs, alcohol use, sex or abuse. It is necessary to question them without parents present in order for some kids to feel safe. She must completely live under a rock if she thinks that "good Christian parents" don't abuse their kids or that kids from "good Christian families"(extraSPESHULtm) don't have sex, get pregnant or use drugs.

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I totally disagree. Minors MUST be screened for high-risk situations - most of which occur IN the home - and no matter how pretty the family picture looks, assessing for children's safety must always be a physician's priority. I think it is such bullshit for her to imply that because the doctor "knows the family" that they don't need to ask the kids about drugs, alcohol use, sex or abuse. It is necessary to question them without parents present in order for some kids to feel safe. She must completely live under a rock if she thinks that "good Christian parents" don't abuse their kids or that kids from "good Christian families"(extraSPESHULtm) don't have sex, get pregnant or use drugs.

^This. There isn't some magic by which parents automatically know of their minor children's mental health problems. The blogger has a right to say whether her boundaries were overstepped, but it doesn't trump her children's right to safety and adequate healthcare.

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^This. There isn't some magic by which parents automatically know of their minor children's mental health problems. The blogger has a right to say whether her boundaries were overstepped, but it doesn't trump her children's right to safety and adequate healthcare.

There is a whole movement filled with parents who think that pediatricians are going to be 'programing' children for birth control' and other 'evils' should kids see Drs. privately. It was a big talking point on The Blaze (rightwingnut news). I started noticing the chatter about this last spring and heard it a few frightwing radio hosts have conversations along these lines. Some parents see this as an infringement of their parental rights. IMHO parental rights to me is a code word that indicates a parent feels their children are property and not people.

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I think her hatemail must be coming from Get Off My Internets where she was featured yesterday: getoffmyinternets.net/blogger-agrees-that-hurricane-sandy-is-our-own-fault/

I guess FJ is easier to find than GOMI?

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I think her hatemail must be coming from Get Off My Internets where she was featured yesterday: getoffmyinternets.net/blogger-agrees-that-hurricane-sandy-is-our-own-fault/

I guess FJ is easier to find than GOMI?

That makes sense, GOMI probably has a bigger readership than FJ. My theory is that she'd been reading OkToBeTakei's first thread for awhile, not because she happened across FJ talking about her but because she knew about us from other fundies. Then when her Frankenstorm post attracted backlash, she blamed it on the only people she knew to be talking about it.

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Some bloggers persecute easy. However, if this were a legitimate hate mail, the internet has ways of shutting it down. When a blogger falsely cries persecution, it makes it that much harder for victims of real persecution to come forward. :roll:

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I think her hatemail must be coming from Get Off My Internets where she was featured yesterday: getoffmyinternets.net/blogger-agrees-that-hurricane-sandy-is-our-own-fault/

I guess FJ is easier to find than GOMI?

Doesn't GOMI sort of have a "do not contact the bloggers directly" unspoken rule? I guess it could be lurkers from here or there though. I'm sort of surprised she didn't address GOMI since they linked directly to her and (I assume) have a bigger readership. I bet FJ just makes a better persecution story because we snark on fun dies exclusively while GOMI covers everything.

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Some bloggers persecute easy. However, if this were a legitimate hate mail, the internet has ways of shutting it down. When a blogger falsely cries persecution, it makes it that much harder for victims of real persecution to come forward. :roll:

:lol: Given her blog history, I think she was asking for it. (I feel icky typing that)

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