Meghan McCain: 'I'm not voting with my vagina'

[themadapple]

Can someone lend me a vagina to vote with, my dick is too short to reach the handle.

Worry not! The workers there are required to furnish you with a dick extension :)

[Little_Eyes]

I was going to say, Bic already made a pen for women! But Thoughtful beat me to the punchline.

[countressrascal]

I am voting for the Supreme Court-the next POTUS could be appointing at least 2 maybe 3 Justices. I don't want anymore right wing wackdoddles on the bench. Due to the Supreme Court we got Bush, do I need to say more?

[luckystone]

In case anyone here hasn't already seen it:

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The reviews on that site are hilarious! Some of them are so creative and they are all nice and snarky.

[Patsy]

So many orchid-shaped slime trails!

Everyone stop it, I just choked on a cashew.

[Patsy]

Safe abortions have always been available to the rich, Dan. You simply want to deny them to the poor, and if you succeed, poor woman will be forced to get them anyway. They’ll be forced into the alleys with hangers, plungers and vacuum cleaners, risking death or mutilation. But you’d like that, wouldn’t you, Dan? You sadistic, elitist, sexist, racist, anti-humanist pig!

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[Gil]

Everyone stop it, I just choked on a cashew.

This thread needs a safety hazard warning. :?

[BlueberryBird]

I am voting for the Supreme Court-the next POTUS could be appointing at least 2 maybe 3 Justices. I don't want anymore right wing wackdoddles on the bench. Due to the Supreme Court we got Bush, do I need to say more?

Same here. I am a single issue voter this time around: SCOTUS.

[MonkeyMomma]

Well my vagina has been reading up on the new voter ID law in our state and just in case the court doesn't shoot the law down she

has already gotten her ID:

Coffee almost came out my nose. :lol: :clap:

[gilora]

Well, a smart voter should prioritize their list concerns during election years. I interpret Meghan McCain's comment as meaning that her priority is the economy and foreign policy, and not abortion and birth control. That's her right and I can respect her priorities even if I disagree with her on reproductive rights. I've seen fundies blasted for saying they are a single-issue voter and only care about the abortion/BC issue. It would be hypocritical of me to now blast someone for NOT putting reproduction high on their list because they are more concerned about other issues.

I'm female and a feminist but I also won't vote based on abortion. I weigh out each candidate's stance on many issues and vote for the person that most likely reflects all of my views. I will never find someone that thinks exactly like me. Plus, my concerns my life changes. As a student, my concerns are different than as a worker, and will change again when I have kids and mortgage, ect. I have always considered myself pro-choice. However, I know that voting based solely on abortion is dumb as there are many things that affect my life, abortion actually far less than other things. Therefore, I think it's prudent for people to look through all the issues that concern them and vote on candidate that supports most of them.

Abortion is not my #1 priority. It certainly is a concern but the big ones for me is the economy and, in my field of work, health care reform. I guess I don't vote with my vagina either. The world is a complex place. Unfortunately, that means my voting habits must also be complicated. I would love to vote for a fiscally moderate, socially liberal candidate, but around here, I take what I can get. Sometimes, that means voting for someone who isn't eye to eye with me on reproductive health and that's sadly how the world is right now.

I'm generally not a single-issue voter either, but I truly believe that the Tea Party Republicans want to strip women of their rights in society. They've pretty much openly declared war on women. Reproductive choice is just the opening salvo because they can cloak it in religion. I had my tubes tied after my second child was born, so access to birth control does not affect me. I am the mother of a daughter and I'll be goddamned if she's brought up in the American Taliban.

[O Latin]

I agree with what some of what YPestis said. Everyone is going to see different issues as being the most important, and I don't think that is necessarily selfish. My primary concerns this election are economic, both because of how those issues effect me personally and because of how they effect the country as a whole. If the economy improves, that is good for everyone. That's not the only issue I will consider, but it's the one I think is the most important. I think it's acceptable for someone to say, "I realize that's an important issue, but it's not my primary concern this time around."

[Sobeknofret]

Can’t help but notice that you seem focused entirely on yourself. "My views", "my life changes", "my concerns", "my life".

I'm not a religious person, but I do believe we're all stuck on this mud ball together and we need to consider the greater good, especially when voting. Do you ever stop to consider other people and their needs?

I *am* kind of a religious person (of the very liberal stripe!) and ITA with JenniferJuniper. It's not just about us, it's about how we can best get equal representation for the most disenfranchised in society.

[SayNoToMullets]

I'm generally not a single-issue voter either, but I truly believe that the Tea Party Republicans want to strip women of their rights in society. They've pretty much openly declared war on women. Reproductive choice is just the opening salvo because they can cloak it in religion. I had my tubes tied after my second child was born, so access to birth control does not affect me. I am the mother of a daughter and I'll be goddamned if she's brought up in the American Taliban.

Well-said, and I agree. Single-issue voting looks very different when the thing at stake is the autonomy of over half the population. And a single-issue vote to take away a freedom is not the same as a single-issue vote to keep it. One doesn't change the course of action that one would take - if you don't want abortion, don't have one. The other, by the very nature of it, does.

[brigid]

I agree with what some of what YPestis said. Everyone is going to see different issues as being the most important, and I don't think that is necessarily selfish. My primary concerns this election are economic, both because of how those issues effect me personally and because of how they effect the country as a whole. If the economy improves, that is good for everyone. That's not the only issue I will consider, but it's the one I think is the most important. I think it's acceptable for someone to say, "I realize that's an important issue, but it's not my primary concern this time around."

So you'd be open to the possibility that your reproductive choice should be on the economic negotiating table?

[formergothardite]

I wonder if one candidate was all for segregation and stripping rights away from people based on the color of their skin, would people would still say "Oh that isn't a primary or important issue. We need to just focus on the economy"

[desertvixen]

Also, it's more about voting for my uterus, not with my vagina.

My boyfriend and I are having a few go-rounds of this discussion. My argument is that it's not just about my reproductive freedom (and my daughter's) but about the fact that women's reproductive choices affect every other aspect of their life.

[Inanna]

My boyfriend and I are having a few go-rounds of this discussion. My argument is that it's not just about my reproductive freedom (and my daughter's) but about the fact that women's reproductive choices affect every other aspect of their life.

Yep. I get so frustrated with my friends who talk about issues as though they are freestanding. "Oh, I'd love to worry about women's rights, but I'm too busy focusing on the economy." Guess what! Women's rights affect the economy! If we have a zillion accidental babies because women have issues getting contraception and abortions, that is going to take women out of the workplace more, it is going to affect the overall education level of HALF OF THE POPULATION, it's going to cause a rise in the funds that WIC and Medicare need, it's going to affect how much we spend in public schooling, child protective services, family courts, etc. I mean, no issue exists in a bubble, but especially not something like reproductive rights.

[TeaELSee]

Voting with her vagina is giving me the unpleasant image of her hanging chad. :?

[doggie]

Voting with her vagina is giving me the unpleasant image of her hanging chad. :?

Not even going to comment on that one.

[emmiedahl]

I would love to be able to vote with my pocketbook, but my vagina is my only choice right now. If women cannot access contraceptives, we are stuck in an economic rut no matter how fabulous the economy is. If our daughters have no access to decent sex education, condoms, and morning after pills, all our good parenting could go down the tubes with one positive pregnancy test. If we cannot get adequate care for that vagina, it just might kill us (cancer?) and make everything else moot. I can't leave my vagina behind and until we are all on the same page about it, I have to vote with it.

I am pretty sure Obama is the better choice for the pocketbook as well, because Romney and Ryan would be pulling out any ace in their sleeves and releasing their economic plan if it really had something better. But it is all so unimportant compared to that vagina.

[JesusFightClub]

I would love to be able to vote with my pocketbook, but my vagina is my only choice right now. If women cannot access contraceptives, we are stuck in an economic rut no matter how fabulous the economy is. If our daughters have no access to decent sex education, condoms, and morning after pills, all our good parenting could go down the tubes with one positive pregnancy test. If we cannot get adequate care for that vagina, it just might kill us (cancer?) and make everything else moot. I can't leave my vagina behind and until we are all on the same page about it, I have to vote with it.

I am pretty sure Obama is the better choice for the pocketbook as well, because Romney and Ryan would be pulling out any ace in their sleeves and releasing their economic plan if it really had something better. But it is all so unimportant compared to that vagina.

As so often, QFT.

(I once cleverly forgot to vote for myself. :oops: Didn't make any difference, I lost by a massive margin anyway. I'm not sure if my lady parts were involved, but they might have been for all I know.)

It seems that American women are making the sensible decision. You can lose your purse, but you can't lose your fanny. I wouldn't go economic on this one, a. because you could slide a Rizla between the candidates' positions really and you need a socialist revolution followed by the establishment of workers' soviets, and b. because it seems US women's human rights are seriously under threat from some of this rhetoric.

[StarrieEyedKat]

As so often, QFT.

(I once cleverly forgot to vote for myself. :oops: Didn't make any difference, I lost by a massive margin anyway. I'm not sure if my lady parts were involved, but they might have been for all I know.)

It seems that American women are making the sensible decision. You can lose your purse, but you can't lose your fanny. I wouldn't go economic on this one, a. because you could slide a Rizla between the candidates' positions really and you need a socialist revolution followed by the establishment of workers' soviets, and b. because it seems US women's human rights are seriously under threat from some of this rhetoric.

JFC, I know it's said a lot, but I just love "listening" to you "talk." You have such an interesting perspective on things.

[dawn9476]

Also, it's more about voting for my uterus, not with my vagina.

My boyfriend and I are having a few go-rounds of this discussion. My argument is that it's not just about my reproductive freedom (and my daughter's) but about the fact that women's reproductive choices affect every other aspect of their life.

It can affect every aspect of a woman's life because some women don't take birth control just to protect from pregnancy. They take it so they can be a fully functional person every day of the month. I remember an opinion piece during the whole Sandra Fluke mess, on CNN's religion page from a young Catholic women in her early twenties, who said she had been on birth control since she was 16 because it helped her function. It helped regulate her body so she wasn't biting the heads off her family and she could concentrate on her school work.

[ElphabaGalinda]

It can affect every aspect of a woman's life because some women don't take birth control just to protect from pregnancy. They take it so they can be a fully functional person every day of the month. I remember an opinion piece during the whole Sandra Fluke mess, on CNN's religion page from a young Catholic women in her early twenties, who said she had been on birth control since she was 16 because it helped her function. It helped regulate her body so she wasn't biting the heads off her family and she could concentrate on her school work.

That's why I take birth control...if I don't I'm in unbearable pain about 2 days a month. Like can't move, can't even speak kind of pain. Birth control was the only thing that made me able to function. The only other choice would be missing 2 days a month of work which would probably mean I couldn't keep a job which would be bad for the economy. But unwanted children often mean a woman can't work as much as she would have, mean she will have a lot less money, and is overall bad for the economy. So if you care about the economy, you should make sure women have reproductive freedom.

There's no election in the near future over here so no opportunity to vote with my lady parts then, and our elections don't have women's reproductive rights as an issue , because no one would elect an openly anti choice leader of this country. But I sincerely hope every female American FJ member votes as though your lady parts depend on it. Because they do.

[wtfrenchtoast]

Fuck it. I am voting with my fucking vagina. Pun intended. I'm not going to be able to enjoy a better economy if the government has taken my uterus hostage. I understand that the economy is a big deal, but me maintaining autonomy over my body is a bigger deal. I'm not like Ms. McCain. I can't just fly over to Canada or somewhere else if I need an abortion or birth control. I need that shit to stay legal here, for the sake of me and my future, and that of every poor woman in this country who can't afford healthcare.