Kristina Keepsake is pregnant with #4

[nokoanna]

Why is he the priority with regards to health insurance? She is clearly the more fragile one? I just can't get my head around it. Then again I come from one of the evil socialist healthcare nations, so what do I know? :roll:

[slickcat79]

Why is he the priority with regards to health insurance? She is clearly the more fragile one? I just can't get my head around it. Then again I come from one of the evil socialist healthcare nations, so what do I know? :roll:

I don't really think he's the priority, exactly, it's just a money issue. If his employer is like many employers, they may cover him (the employee) at no cost. But in order to add family members to his plan he would have to pay, and they "can't afford" that so he doesn't add them.

[nokoanna]

I don't really think he's the priority, exactly, it's just a money issue. If his employer is like many employers, they may cover him (the employee) at no cost. But in order to add family members to his plan he would have to pay, and they "can't afford" that so he doesn't add them.

Oh, I see. I was unaware he had a job, I believed he was the one who sold tapes of sermons or something.

[simplysweet]

Yep, before he shut his facebook down he said insurance would cost $100/week for Kristina and the kids and they could not afford it. If you can't afford $100 a week to insure your wife and children then you can't afford another kid. I also totally agree that with all her health issues the constant pregnancies are a disaster in the making.

He did not shut his facebook down. They did that weird morph thing where they now share a page. I think because Kristina was sick of getting flack for him beating the kids - I mean popping 'em. It is still open, he just does not get to post the horrible pictures or status updates as much as he would like.

[O Latin]

Wow. I think it was the discussion of her six inches apart courting rule that led me to FJ from the Duggar TWOP thread. That was almost four years ago. Man, time flies.

[Buzzard]

I don't really think he's the priority, exactly, it's just a money issue. If his employer is like many employers, they may cover him (the employee) at no cost. But in order to add family members to his plan he would have to pay, and they "can't afford" that so he doesn't add them.

We're over-thinking this. When some people have clunkers for cars they drop collision insurance to save money. They ride it till it wears out and scrap it, buying a new car. Kristina is a "clunker" to Josh and his lack of insuring her proves it. He'll get what he can then trade her in for another model that can serve him better. There's no shortage of good, stronger models that who can carry him. Asshole.

[valsa]

We're over-thinking this. When some people have clunkers for cars they drop collision insurance to save money. They ride it till it wears out and scrap it, buying a new car. Kristina is a "clunker" to Josh and his lack of insuring her proves it. He'll get what he can then trade her in for another model that can serve him better. There's no shortage of good, stronger models that who can carry him. Asshole.

Is it bad that I had the exact same impression?

Considering how courtship in fundie circles tends to go (the two people courting don't seem to be able to get to know each other very well), I always wondered if he knew she was sickly before they got married (assuming she was in fragile health pre-marriage) If her health issues weren't disclosed to him or only popped up after he married her, I bet he wishes he could return her for a functional model, so to speak. So instead of doing what normal, caring husbands do- discussing, with his wife, the possibility of adjusting their life expectations for things like how many kids they're going to have- he's just going to run her ragged until she breaks down and trade up afterward. Because somehow that's more Godly.

[Sprocket]

There is no way that she had all four of those children without Medicaid. Josh doesn't make enough to pay for insurance, let alone the doctor bills and hospital bills for a singleton and twin births. They would be effing bankrupt. I doubt they make enough, given the dependents, that they would even qualify for Peachcare. As somone upthread said, there is no way those kids don't have health insurance, ie, medicaid.

[mirele]

There is no way that she had all four of those children without Medicaid. Josh doesn't make enough to pay for insurance, let alone the doctor bills and hospital bills for a singleton and twin births. They would be effing bankrupt. I doubt they make enough, given the dependents, that they would even qualify for Peachcare. As somone upthread said, there is no way those kids don't have health insurance, ie, medicaid.

I think the hospital can automatically file for Medicaid for the baby, so it can get paid.

But I do love how these people having boatloads of kids without insurance are basically pushing off the expense on the taxpayers--you know, people like me with no children who pay more taxes as a result. I don't begrudge paying taxes, not hardly. However, I do get annoyed by people who insist on multiplying and replenishing the earth, Mars and Venus, and do it unashamedly on the taxpayer's dime, as part of a religious belief.

[copyed]

Wave to Kristina! She's reading here. Kristina, please be careful -- healthwise and decision-making-wise. God gave us free will so we could make intelligent choices that reflect the various realities that shape our lives.

[Sprocket]

Wow, people on Freejinger can knock down me and my husband because we're having another child, but the can talk trash all they want and that is okay? Hmmm... Just so everyone on there knows, my health is great, my husband would never "trade me in for a newer model" and the number of children God allows us to have is really not up to you. By the way, I'm perfectly capable of taking care of my children by myself! I would qualify myself as a very loving mother who is very nurturing to her children.

Hey, Kristina, since you're reading here, how are you going to have prenatal care if you don't have insurance? Sucking off of the government teet? Hypocrite.

[CrazySister]

Hey, Kristina, since you're reading here, how are you going to have prenatal care if you don't have insurance? Sucking off of the government teet? Hypocrite.

Sprocket- you beat me to it :)

Kristina - So does medicaid not count as aide or you just have rich friends (Samaritan, etc) who pay your bills for you? You aren't paying the whole bill yourself yet it's somehow...different. Uh, yeah. :roll:

ETA: Hi Kristina!

[CrazySister]

Wow, people on Freejinger can knock down me and my husband because we're having another child, but the can talk trash all they want and that is okay? Hmmm... Just so everyone on there knows, my health is great, my husband would never "trade me in for a newer model" and the number of children God allows us to have is really not up to you. By the way, I'm perfectly capable of taking care of my children by myself! I would qualify myself as a very loving mother who is very nurturing to her children.

Anyone with fibro who's dealt with multiple bouts of mono care to rebut this little gem?

[Deleted03]

Hey, Kristina, since you're reading here, how are you going to have prenatal care if you don't have insurance? Sucking off of the government teet? Hypocrite.

A very loving mother who is very nurturing? is that what you repeat to yourself while swatting/popping/spanking your children?

The idea of having health coverage is that you never know how your health will be. Your last pregnancy showed how bad it became, it might do that again (and again since you don't use contraception). And your kids too might need consultations for their health.

No one hates you, people disagree with your opinion and think that your husband should find a way to get 400$ extra per month to ensure you won't have millions in debt.

[Witsec7]

Hi Kristina, it's Friday, how about stopping by for a visit, to clear up any misinformation we may have. I'd light the BBQ today but it's pouring out, so I turned on the fireplace instead.

We'd love to know how your underemployed husband is paying for your prenatal care without govt. assistance. But hey it's up to you we can continue to idly speculate or you can visit us. Your choice.

[contrary]

Because Jesus!

(sorry. Now that I've found this handy little term on the 19K FB page, I cannot stop finding places to use it.)

[Sprocket]

When I first saw this, the only thing I could think of was 'another infant/toddler for them to "pop" for going near an unlit fireplace -- because you know, they're toddlers."

[valsa]

the number of children God allows us to have is really not up to you.

You're correct- it's up to you.

By not using birth control, you're still controlling your own fertility and the number of children you have.

And frankly, I think it shows an un-Christian lack of faith in God's power to think that, if he's decided on a specific number of children for you, birth control could stop keep you from having that many children. God conceived Jesus through a virgin. If anything, getting pregnant while on BC and using a condom is a praise-worthy testament to God's power.

[CrazySister]

Hi Kristina, it's Friday, how about stopping by for a visit, to clear up any misinformation we may have. I'd light the BBQ today but it's pouring out, so I turned on the fireplace instead.

We'd love to know how your underemployed husband is paying for your prenatal care without govt. assistance. But hey it's up to you we can continue to idly speculate or you can visit us. Your choice.

What, and take away the ability to whine on her FB page about how we're not playing nice with her? Nah, that'd be too much of an adult thing to do. ;)

[Daisy]

If you can take care of your children by yourself why did your mother have to stay with you for months when the twins were born?

Yeah a real loving nurturing mother who spanks kids that aren't even a year old yet and does cry it out with 5 month old twins

Kristina is always so defensive. I think she protests too much

[Witsec7]

Just a note to those who are accusing us of "hitting" our children...we love our kids with all of our hearts and we would NEVER hit them. We are teaching them to obey and respect others, and when they do no listen to us they do get a spanking on their rear end...but they have never been hit in an abusive manner and never will be. Just wanted to ease your conscience a little. ;o) (this has been a public service announcement to ease your minds)

Further proof she is a lying liar who lies. This was posted to FB in Aug. That means she was hitting her kids when they were less than a year old.

It's amazing that a woman with all of her health problems has the energy to strike her children.

[nokoanna]

Why would she choose to read here? She must know it won't be good, what purpose could it possibly serve? Is it a "blessed are the persecuted" thing?

And the idea that to hit those little children (or indeed big children) would make them learn. Ugh. :x

[valsa]

we love our kids with all of our hearts and we would NEVER hit them

when they do no listen to us they do get a spanking on their rear end

I... I think I just had a stroke.

Okay, Kristina, I'm in a learning mood today. Please post a step-by-step tutorial on how to spank your child without hitting them. Thanks.

[sparkles]

Kristina, I have no doubt that you love your children dearly, but do you really want to risk leaving them motherless? Your health has obviously been significantly compromised by pregnancy and delivery, to the point where you were so weakened that you needed a wheelchair to get around and another person to take over a large part of your caregiving role for an extended period of time. Do you really think depriving your existing children of the best mother you can be is what your god has in mind for them? No one here wants to see you suffering or your children left motherless but no one can understand the logic behind your choices either. Your children deserve a healthy mom and you deserve to enjoy them to the fullest.

As a side note, millions upon millions of children are raised as fine, upstanding human beings without ever ONCE being hit. No matter what their age, there are appropriate methods of teaching and disciplining your children without using physical force. Please try them.

And finally, unless you make your Facebook page or blog viewable by invitation only, you will have to accept the good with the bad. You're putting things out there for public consumption and you can't control others' thoughts and opinions. Just a fact of life on the interwebz.

[2xx1xy1JD]

Hi Kristina!

Expressing honest concern for you and your children is not being nasty.

Feel free to read some of the past threads on child discipline, and even set up an account if you want to post and discuss your views on appropriate discipline for toddlers. I can give plenty of advice that involves neither plumbing line nor allowing children to run wild.