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I don't know if he followed the pearls or not. Or he is just a asshole with mental problems. But I do think he got less time because of the religion part.

Clearly, he missed the "Thou shall not kill" part.

I woman who almost killed her child when she super glued her hands to a wall then beat her got 99 years.

A Georgia father, sentenced Wednesday to 18 years for murdering his 5-month-old son, used a biblical verse to defend the fatal beating, the WSB-TV reports.

Benjamin Edetanlen said he was acting on the old adage, “Spare the rod, spoil the child."

enjamin Edetanlen Sentenced To 18 Years, Defends Killing Son With Bible Passage

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/1 ... 61602.html

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He didn't get less time because of religion, he got less time because he copped a plea. At first I was "What the hell is this 18 years for murdering a child"? Then I saw he cut a deal and rather than go to trial for murder, he pleaded to manslaughter and got the 18 year sentence. I hardly call that justice for the child. At least his other children will be too old for him to "discipline" when he gets out.

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Who the fuck hits a 5 month old baby? Obviously someone who is fucjed up beyond belief, but even the pro-spankers would object to hitting a baby. For one, babies still aren't very mobile at that age, so its not like the child could crawl away or get into anything. The only thing that baby could have done was cry. And why do babies cry? That's the only way they can communicate! He was hitting a kid who had no other means of communication!

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Yeah and I also remember a verse about "anyone who would hurt one of these little ones it would be better for them to have a millstone tied to them and be cast into the ocean." So just one question for this asshole Which would he like Atlantic or Pacific?

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Unless he's got a very fertile significant other, he also missed the part about being married. He's got a 2-year-old and a 1-year old on top of the 5-month-old that he killed.

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There is NO reason to EVER "discipline" a 5 month old baby. I don't care what the bible says you just don't do it, that is a helpless creature who can't run away, speak, or defend himself. He should stay in prison until the day he dies.

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I'm surprised this hasn't happened sooner. Not that I generally approve of using people's deaths for political, but here's hoping Fuqua's political opponents get wind of this and use it as an example of exactly how dangerous his beliefs are.

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Unless he's got a very fertile significant other, he also missed the part about being married. He's got a 2-year-old and a 1-year old on top of the 5-month-old that he killed.

He might have a very fertile significant other. Sweet Tea and Buttermilk Courtney has a two-year old, a one-year old, and a newborn.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/ ... al-/nSbL2/

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Let's play the Christian Privilege Bingo Game that some of the commenters are playing:

Oh, I bet you libruls would justify him if he were Muslim you Christ-haters!

They're not true Christians tm!

He interpreted the Bible wrongly.

Blame the person, not their religion. (Yet Muslims don't get this pass because they hate us!)

Spanking is a-ok, he just took it too far!

You should be more worried that Obuma is hiding his Muslim identity!

Why do you persecute us so?

Not all Christians are like this.

We could even play a drinking game with these bullshit distractions and excuses! :lol:

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Who the fuck hits a 5 month old baby? Obviously someone who is fucjed up beyond belief, but even the pro-spankers would object to hitting a baby. For one, babies still aren't very mobile at that age, so its not like the child could crawl away or get into anything. The only thing that baby could have done was cry. And why do babies cry? That's the only way they can communicate! He was hitting a kid who had no other means of communication!

No shit. What does he claim the baby was doing to deserve any kind of punishment? The news article didn't mention that. It's a 5-month-old, they're not that mobile, they're not eating much non-liquid food, so what could the baby have even thought of doing? Too young for fingers in electric outlets or throwing peas on the floor. Giving dad the stink-eye?

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Who the fuck hits a 5 month old baby? Obviously someone who is fucjed up beyond belief, but even the pro-spankers would object to hitting a baby. For one, babies still aren't very mobile at that age, so its not like the child could crawl away or get into anything. The only thing that baby could have done was cry. And why do babies cry? That's the only way they can communicate! He was hitting a kid who had no other means of communication!

I'm afraid that the more extreme of the pro-spankers do not object to hitting a baby. One need only to turn to the article "The Correction and Salvation of Children" by Ronald Williams (the incredibly sick man who runs Hephzibah House) and Williams states:

When should a parent start using the rod of correction on a child that the Lord has brought into the family? There is no clear and specific answer to this very good question. However, it is my opinion that the correction of children should start as soon as the need for that correction is made manifest. Every discerning parent who has been blessed with a little child in his home realizes that his initial impression of the sweetness and the innocence of the child is in reality an illusion. A child very quickly demonstrates his fallen, depraved nature and reveals himself to be a selfish little beast in manifold ways. As soon as the child begins to express his own self-will (and this occurs early in life) that child needs to receive correction. My wife and I have a general goal of making sure that each of our children has his will broken by the time he reaches the age of one year. To do this, a child must receive correction when he is a small infant.
(bolding mine)

Honestly, these people scare the crap out of me. That they're allowed in any capacity to care for teenagers/children is horrifying beyond all belief.

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There is a fundy family in the neighborhood I grew up in (blue collar ethnic part of NJ - yes, I think they relish their "otherness"). The father will take any opportunity to "minister" (enjoys listening to his own voice) and I remember him telling me, when my son was a baby "You have to remember, a child is not saved. He is full of sin. Just look at him, he is selfish, deceitful and easily led by Satan." My son of course, was happily drooling in his stroller. This mentality appeals to some sick part of these people.

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(bolding mine)

This literally brought tears to my eyes. What the fuck is wrong with these people? What "will" does an infant have, other than a desire to be loved, cared for, and nurtured? And that needs to be broken?!? I'm just sick to my stomach reading this.

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This literally brought tears to my eyes. What the fuck is wrong with these people? What "will" does an infant have, other than a desire to be loved, cared for, and nurtured? And that needs to be broken?!? I'm just sick to my stomach reading this.

Mine too. The first time I read the article, I could not believe anyone could actually think this way. I didn't know anything about people like the Pearls or "To Train Up A Child" at the time, and to this day, it just staggers me and breaks my heart. It still makes me angry that someone can write something like this.

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Let's play the Christian Privilege Bingo Game that some of the commenters are playing:

Oh, I bet you libruls would justify him if he were Muslim you Christ-haters!

They're not true Christians tm!

He interpreted the Bible wrongly.

Blame the person, not their religion. (Yet Muslims don't get this pass because they hate us!)

Spanking is a-ok, he just took it too far!

You should be more worried that Obuma is hiding his Muslim identity!

Why do you persecute us so?

Not all Christians are like this.

We could even play a drinking game with these bullshit distractions and excuses! :lol:

Well... I agree w/ the bolded. Can you even consider that man a Christian? I know Christians, and myself (as a Christian! Haha) would NEVER do that. I don't even think that's a "Christian" thing but a "decent human being" thing. KWIM? I think he's sick and... it makes me SICK that some people REALLY want children and can't have them... (like my friends. Great couple, sweet and loving towards children,financially and emotionally stable... can't have any of their own for various reasons and have not had great luck with adoption) and yet this asshat is apparently fertile, having several. UGH.

ETA: This is something I've thought of for a while... ya know... people are saying spare the rod, spoil the child... I know it's not in the bible. That it's a phrase, not a bible verse. Ok... I wonder why they are taking it LITERALLY. God does not teach us to physically hit, does he? Maybe I just don't know my bible, but I don't believe in hitting anyone period, much less my child. I can't think of any good that can come of breaking the will of a child. I can't believe there are others out there who think it's fine.

And my daughter is willful and strong. She can be sweet but also quite a handful. Why would I want her any other way? You need a bit of that willfulness, stubborness... just to MAKE IT nowadays!

And quite frankly, there are better methods of discipline than whipping. It makes no sense to punish someone for... I don't know... turning around and doing something you told them NOT TO DO.. by whipping them. SMH

ETA: I see no sorrow in that man's eyes. I see smugness. I could not live with myself if I ever caused harm to my daughter much less ending her life. I can't... I had a hard time just TYPING that... look at that man's eyes! He will get out, and possibly, probably, have more children... and live his life. That poor little boy won't get that chance. And as y'all have pointed out.. 5 month olds? They don't do much. They are little BABIES for cryin out loud.

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:shock:

Assistant District Attorney Dalia Racine argued that Edetanlen used similar force on his other children, a 2-year-old daughter and a 1-year-old son.

Those poor children. What was enough force to kill an infant was also used on a 2 and 1-year old?! whatthefuqqqq

Then people wonder why the younger generations steer away from religion... Not because it's "not cool", but maybe, just maybe it's because we don't want to be associated with psychos like this!

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Well... I agree w/ the bolded. Can you even consider that man a Christian? I know Christians, and myself (as a Christian! Haha) would NEVER do that. I don't even think that's a "Christian" thing but a "decent human being" thing. KWIM? I think he's sick and... it makes me SICK that some people REALLY want children and can't have them... (like my friends. Great couple, sweet and loving towards children,financially and emotionally stable... can't have any of their own for various reasons and have not had great luck with adoption) and yet this asshat is apparently fertile, having several. UGH.

ETA: This is something I've thought of for a while... ya know... people are saying spare the rod, spoil the child... I know it's not in the bible. That it's a phrase, not a bible verse. Ok... I wonder why they are taking it LITERALLY. God does not teach us to physically hit, does he? Maybe I just don't know my bible, but I don't believe in hitting anyone period, much less my child. I can't think of any good that can come of breaking the will of a child. I can't believe there are others out there who think it's fine.

And my daughter is willful and strong. She can be sweet but also quite a handful. Why would I want her any other way? You need a bit of that willfulness, stubborness... just to MAKE IT nowadays!

And quite frankly, there are better methods of discipline than whipping. It makes no sense to punish someone for... I don't know... turning around and doing something you told them NOT TO DO.. by whipping them. SMH

ETA: I see no sorrow in that man's eyes. I see smugness. I could not live with myself if I ever caused harm to my daughter much less ending her life. I can't... I had a hard time just TYPING that... look at that man's eyes! He will get out, and possibly, probably, have more children... and live his life. That poor little boy won't get that chance. And as y'all have pointed out.. 5 month olds? They don't do much. They are little BABIES for cryin out loud.

The problem is that when a Muslim does something horrible (such as the taliban shooting that poor teenager) it's because Islam is a terrible evil religion. When a Christian does something terrible it's "Not all Christians are like that!"

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The exact phrase "Spare the rod and spoil the child" is indeed from a poem and not from the bible, but proverbs has many verses similar in tone:

Prov 13:24: "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes (diligently)."

Prov 19:18: "Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying."

Prov 22:15: "Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him."

Prov 23:13: "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die."

Prov 23:14: "Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell (Shoel)."

Prov 29:15: "The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame."

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