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Not to thread-jack, but was anyone else baffled by the post of the Maxwells being fascinated by a farmer harvesting grain? I felt like sneezing just looking at all that dust in the air. Do they live in such a metro area they've never seen food being harvested? Or were they all "Oh, a biblical analogy in action! Best thing ever!"?

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Not to thread-jack, but was anyone else baffled by the post of the Maxwells being fascinated by a farmer harvesting grain? I felt like sneezing just looking at all that dust in the air. Do they live in such a metro area they've never seen food being harvested? Or were they all "Oh, a biblical analogy in action! Best thing ever!"?

The Maxwells live such a cloistered life that every mundane thing seems interesting to them. That being said I grew up near dairy farms and saw a lot of cows and other animals (all sadly replaced by expensive housing developments now). But, I can't think I've ever seen grain or other crops harvested (unless you count going strawberry picking or to the pumpkin patch harvesting). I guess it could be interesting to some.

Remember these are people who drive all over the US and yet only seem to see the insides of various Costcos and Baptist churches. I'd think that if they visited local attractions, eateries, main streets or something that they'd post it online. FOr instance, they were near Pittsburgh and could have gone to the Strip District and walked around the various sellers of goods and veggies. They could have gone to a museum or to the stadiums. They could have kayaked the three rivers. They could have driven a bit and gone to Falling Water and Kentuck Knob and taken a tour of the homes and grounds. Did they do any of that? Nope, they came and sold some books and left.

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Not to thread-jack, but was anyone else baffled by the post of the Maxwells being fascinated by a farmer harvesting grain? I felt like sneezing just looking at all that dust in the air. Do they live in such a metro area they've never seen food being harvested? Or were they all "Oh, a biblical analogy in action! Best thing ever!"?

I wondered that myself - it's fall in Illinois, so such scenes are extremely commonplace. That said, I suppose it works as a picture of "hey look it's fall" (just like the leaf pics) but yeah considering they're from Kansas I would not have expected them to find it so fascinating. Though they DO in fact live in the suburbs.

As for sightseeing on their trips... I can't imagine them ever going to a museum because it's just too dangerous to the faith. Any secular museum is bound to have some offensive content from their POV, even the boring ones. Can't mention history more than 6000 ish years ago, can't mention half of modern science (often because of those dates if nothing else), can't talk about secular history if they've been taught that God has a hand in it, can't learn about foreign cultures because they will usually involve foreign wrong evil heathen religions, and if nothing else is wrong, probably there's people wearing defrauding clothing (though now that it's fall, there's less of that).

I would think maybe the open market might interest them though, you're right. Though who knows what odd food might be on offer, if it's not the exact things they need to measure out for the Burrito Smoothies or whatever they're having for lunch... better to just stick to Costco and Wal-Mart, which have the familiar brands they expect.

I also suspect Steve-O is one of those drivers who just obsesses over Making Good Time, because they are On A Schedule Dammit. Gotta get there early so there's time for Bible Time and pushups.

They have occasionally made side trips in the past though, often for hiking. Hiking is pretty much the perfect diversion - you can call it "admiring God's creation" so it's suitably religious (because you need to be engaged with Jesus 24/7), it involves their holy grail of exercise (so they're being industrious! Not slacking, no!), there often aren't so many other people around (though when there are, there's the defrauding danger - possibly a reason to wait for fall or stick to high altitudes), and the places they're usually shown going, there aren't many signs giving real information that will compromise their faith, there are no docents around. They can just ignore whatever signs are there. But basically if your goal is to completely "shelter" your children and use every moment for religious activity and/or working on yourself, hikes in nature are pretty much the one thing you can do. So yeah your kayaking suggestion they definitely could do (and we know they LIKE it even!) but for some reason they didn't, that must be the "we've got a schedule to keep!!!" talking.

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I could swear that they once toured Carlsbad Caverns but I can't find that exact post. I remember it because they mentioned that when the guide was talking about how the formations were millions of years old, the Maxwells exchanged knowing smiles amongst themselves. :roll:

If anyone can find that post I'll be your best friend. It's driving me nuts.

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I could swear that they once toured Carlsbad Caverns but I can't find that exact post. I remember it because they mentioned that when the guide was talking about how the formations were millions of years old, the Maxwells exchanged knowing smiles amongst themselves. :roll:

If anyone can find that post I'll be your best friend. It's driving me nuts.

I remember that, too.

And they mentioned they had planned to visit it once before, but ended up not having enough time (bad scheduling!). Hmmm, when was that? But yes, they snickered at the tour guide because they all knew God made those formations when he got up one day and had some white space on his calendar so he decided to make them. Shazaam, and there they were.

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sparkles: it is here:

titus2.com/blog/index.php/2010/01/07/carlsbad-caverns/

It was a wonderful day at the Caverns. Our Lord’s creation is amazing! Although we heard quite often “millions and millions of years ago,†we smiled between ourselves because we knew that wasn’t true.

edited because now we are BFFs!! I will send you half of a heart shaped necklace that says "BE Fri"

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sparkles: it is here:

titus2.com/blog/index.php/2010/01/07/carlsbad-caverns/

edited because now we are BFFs!! I will send you half of a heart shaped necklace that says "BE Fri"

OMG, Mary has her hair in braids in that last photo! GASP! Scandalous!

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sparkles: it is here:

titus2.com/blog/index.php/2010/01/07/carlsbad-caverns/

edited because now we are BFFs!! I will send you half of a heart shaped necklace that says "BE Fri"

OMG! I luff you muchly! We are totes BFFs 4eva! And obviously I suck at searching.

Love the comments with that post, including some from Mrs. Mari. So the Maxwells do visit the sites but still never miss an opportunity to get all Jesus-y.

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I remember that, too.

And they mentioned they had planned to visit it once before, but ended up not having enough time (bad scheduling!). Hmmm, when was that? But yes, they snickered at the tour guide because they all knew God made those formations when he got up one day and had some white space on his calendar so he decided to make them. Shazaam, and there they were.

Didn't they also end up passing up the Grand Canyon once too?

I also remember the Caverns trip, I'll have to go hunting. Thing is their blog didn't all transfer over properly, some of the old stuff has text but no pics.

Ah I see MyName found it! W000t! Thankyew!

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The dancing thing confuses me. I have seen pictures & blogs about some fundies dancing (square dances, traditional dances, walzes, etc.), but then some of them are vehemently against it. What's the difference?

As a heathen and a Yankee to boot, I've never really encountered the "Don't dance or you'll go straight to HELL!!!" attitude outside of the blogosphere (and Footloose :twisted: )

Also on 30 Rock.. Kenneth the page does NOT approve of dancing! He's my favorite character and it terrifies me to think that people like him actually exist in real life!

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They did go to the Grand Canyon once as I remember seeing photos, but I think they were in a hurry and it was winter so it was cold and they didn't actually go into it on horse, or whatever it is people do to get to the bottom. Of course, the girls wouldn't have been welcome to do that, anyway. Riding horses in a frumper could have interesting results.

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Not to thread-jack, but was anyone else baffled by the post of the Maxwells being fascinated by a farmer harvesting grain? I felt like sneezing just looking at all that dust in the air. Do they live in such a metro area they've never seen food being harvested? Or were they all "Oh, a biblical analogy in action! Best thing ever!"?

Why, yes. Thank you for mentioning this. I thought they behaved more like 5 year-old city kids than adult children who routinely tour the country. However, remember John, bless his heart, had no idea if the Carolinas were part of the south or part of the north. Even I, an evil socialist Canadian, knew the answer to that one. So yeah, they clearly don't get out, or read much, despite being published authors and all the time they spend on the road.

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OFFS. On top of raging sinus pain, I now have The Byrds stuck in my head. That girl's hair looks like mine does when I shy away from the hairdresser for too long. I'm always afraid to have any length cut off for even a trim, and then of course, I end up having to get a few inches hacked off because of split ends. Yes, I was raised with a "long hair is a woman's crowning glory" complex that I can't seem to shed. I'd be pissed if I wasn't allowed to pull my hair back in summer (or any other time, for that matter). When I opened the blog and saw a pic of Uriah right at the top, I almost spit my tea all over my laptop. I'll never again see Uriah or a similar bus without picturing someone humping it.

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That reminds me of a certain SBC college I visited. They had dances, but called them 'foot fellowships.'

Um...there are...things one can do with one's feet. In the spirit of "sweet fellowship." The mental image I get from this is pretty X-rated!

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It was a wonderful day at the Caverns. Our Lord’s creation is amazing! Although we heard quite often “millions and millions of years ago,†we smiled between ourselves because we knew that wasn’t true.

Thinking about this makes me even more convinced that Steve has indoctrinated his children to the point where they have absolutely no free thought or natural curiosity at all. We all know that he shelters them to the point of isolation, but every so often something sneaks through, as in the guide referring to the age of the formation in terms of "millions and millions" of years. The Maxwells, of course, buy into the whole "the earth is only 6,000 (or whatever it is) years old. But don't you think that just about any other kid, upon hearing a statement that so clearly contradicts what they've been taught, would think to QUESTION why? "Why is the guide saying the cave formations took millions of years, Daddy? Didn't you tell us that the earth is only 6,000 years old? Why do other people think it's older?" I know my daughter wouldn't have taken an answer that amounted to "because god/I said so" at face value. She would have pursued the matter until she was able to form an opinion based on the knowledge she'd gained, through reading, questioning and other forms of research. Even as a very little kid, she would "why" me to death about even the most mundane things, and if I didn't have an answer, I'd look for resources that did. And often, I learned something new, just as she did. Her curiosity and tenaciousness were wonderful things.

Of course, we don't know for a fact that the Maxwell kids didn't question, but even if they did, past history would suggest that Steve would have snuffed that out in a microsecond. Because a child's natural curiosity is yet another mark of the devil...

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Didn't they also end up passing up the Grand Canyon once too?

It was March 2011 on their way to destroy the Canadian roads up north:

We stopped for the night in Williams, hoping to see the Grand Canyon today. But, after praying about it, Dad felt that we needed more time on a new session we’re trying to finish up. Dad has always encouraged us that ministry takes priority over the side items, such as sightseeing, so it was decided to not go to the Grand Canyon. Ministry is more important!

Yeah, right. Nice self-deception there, Sarah. Ministry is more important! If Daddy needs to work on his new session, the whole fucking family needs to stay with him! Good Lord what could happen if Teri and her brood decided to visit the Grand Canyon by themselves - they might see chipmunks "fellowshipping" :o

edit. Sparkles, I can't get over your avatar - it comes to my nightmares! :mrgreen:

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They missed the Grand Canyon for busy work? These people do virtually nothing productive the entire year!!! They travel a bit and then don't even have the freedom to see the sights? Its not like they were going to tour a red light district, its the Grand Canyon for goodness sake!

That explains why they didn't take a detour (on what was a lovely weekend) to Fallingwater. FW would be their kind of thing (aside from the fact that the Kaufmann's who owned the house/property were Jewish and Frank Lloyd Wright the artchitect is a Unitarian) as it can involve hiking through lovely woods. THe house is pretty interesting, but you can skip it and enjoy the grounds. Also, there's no talk about other religions/cultures. No information about the age of the earth or anything else they could find blasphemous.

I hope one day Sarah escapes. I think she'd be happier as a waitress in a diner and living in a studio apartment than she is now.

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They missed the Grand Canyon for busy work? These people do virtually nothing productive the entire year!!! They travel a bit and then don't even have the freedom to see the sights? Its not like they were going to tour a red light district, its the Grand Canyon for goodness sake!

That explains why they didn't take a detour (on what was a lovely weekend) to Fallingwater. FW would be their kind of thing (aside from the fact that the Kaufmann's who owned the house/property were Jewish and Frank Lloyd Wright the artchitect is a Unitarian) as it can involve hiking through lovely woods. THe house is pretty interesting, but you can skip it and enjoy the grounds. Also, there's no talk about other religions/cultures. No information about the age of the earth or anything else they could find blasphemous.

I hope one day Sarah escapes. I think she'd be happier as a waitress in a diner and living in a studio apartment than she is now.

Ah, but Falling Water was created by MAN. How would they be able to swoon over god's creation?

At this point, I think Sarah would be overcome by fear if she found herself out in the real world. She was force-fed the Kool-Aid and it's now running through her veins. She BELIEVES she needs someone to tell her how to live her life.

Sparkles, I can't get over your avatar - it comes to my nightmares!

It took me a while to find the right one, but hot damn, it's a winnah!

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It took me a while to find the right one, but hot damn, it's a winnah!

I keep looking at your avatar and wondering if that's YOU and you fixed your hair all pretty like J'chelle's, or if it's someone else. Either way, it's genius! :)

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sparkles: it is here:

titus2.com/blog/index.php/2010/01/07/carlsbad-caverns/

edited because now we are BFFs!! I will send you half of a heart shaped necklace that says "BE Fri"

Man it must be nice to know you're always 100% right.

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I keep looking at your avatar and wondering if that's YOU and you fixed your hair all pretty like J'chelle's, or if it's someone else. Either way, it's genius! :)

In my entire life, I've never had that much hair. I'd KILL for that hair! But not the style. Hells no. It's actually "Jean Engvall" from Kid Farm. Which, if you haven't already, you cannot let another second go by without seeing.

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In my entire life, I've never had that much hair. I'd KILL for that hair! But not the style. Hells no. It's actually "Jean Engvall" from Kid Farm. Which, if you haven't already, you cannot let another second go by without seeing.

Ohhhh, yes, the Duggar parody, right? I remember seeing some of it a loooong time ago when I first hung out here. I've never been much of a Duggar-watcher other than when I happen to catch random things on them, but that hair is unmistakably J'chelle. Sooooo funny.

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Thanks for the explanations about the dancing thing. It's still baffling to me, but the whole picking-and-choosing thing I'm familiar with.

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