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Burris, thanks for posting the verse from Ezekiel. A good one. I notice Mark did not address it. Anyway, me not being strongly versed in the Bible (to say the least), how do you interpret the next verse:

They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

Are the "detestable" (abominations in the KJV) things the same as those mentioned in 16:49? Thanks!

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Burris, thanks for posting the verse from Ezekiel. A good one. I notice Mark did not address it. Anyway, me not being strongly versed in the Bible (to say the least), how do you interpret the next verse:

They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

Are the "detestable" (abominations in the KJV) things the same as those mentioned in 16:49? Thanks!

Matthew Henry had this to say about it:

16:1-58 In this chapter God's dealings with the Jewish nation, and their conduct towards him, are described, and their punishment through the surrounding nations, even those they most trusted in. This is done under the parable of an exposed infant rescued from death, educated, espoused, and richly provided for, but afterwards guilty of the most abandoned conduct, and punished for it; yet at last received into favour, and ashamed of her base conduct. We are not to judge of these expressions by modern ideas, but by those of the times and places in which they were used, where many of them would not sound as they do to us. The design was to raise hatred to idolatry, and such a parable was well suited for that purpose.

The way I personally read it, although other people might disagree, the "detestable" acts mentioned above were related to the overall cruelty of the Sodomites, rather than to specific manifestations of that cruelty such as the desire to rape (and thus shame) the guests of Lot. (Surely not every man in Sodom, nor even the majority of them, was inclined to homosexuality; and yet they refused to ravage the daughters of Lot in place of the men they wanted to destroy. Their aim wasn't to achieve sexual gratification. They weren't homosexuals, and being on the 'wrong' end of a homosexual act was probably seen as shameful by most of them.)

The story of Sodom is discussed most fully in Genesis, in the context of territorial turmoil (Genesis 14). The men of the city didn't mob the home of Lot until Genesis 19.

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Burris, thanks for posting the verse from Ezekiel. A good one. I notice Mark did not address it. Anyway, me not being strongly versed in the Bible (to say the least), how do you interpret the next verse:

They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

Are the "detestable" (abominations in the KJV) things the same as those mentioned in 16:49? Thanks!

I did address it.

I told him the sin of Sodom was sodomy.

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I wouldn't. Because Africa is a big continent and lots of the countries on that continent have no tigers.

Now go away mark

What about snakes?

And those little "no see um" bugs?

They lay eggs in your hair.

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How's the chafing with cloth pads? Better than disposables? I've resorted to tampons out of sheer frustration. The various cups are tempting, but I am freaking TINY, and I'm not sure how one goes about measuring for that sort of thing...

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Why do fundie obsess over teh Gays but never mention all the hetero sodomy going on? And dumbass, I can't spit in your god's face unless you let me. He is your imaginary friend, after all, so you have the control.

Also, Diva Cups are the shiz. Wouldn't give mine up for anything.

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Me! I made a few when I was out of commercial pads and low on cash, and I was surprised to discover just how much I preferred them.

I thought liberals were green?

I think the cloth diapers are the way to go.

A new plank for the democratic platform.

Hillary's new campaign slogan.

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Why do fundie obsess over teh Gays but never mention all the hetero sodomy going on? And dumbass, I can't spit in your god's face unless you let me. He is your imaginary friend, after all, so you have the control.

Also, Diva Cups are the shiz. Wouldn't give mine up for anything.

I do address male/female sodomy also.

VERBOTEN

Direct quote -

"Now we have to deal with three rather indelicate issues. And those are masturbation, pornography and anal sex. The Millennium is a very comprehensive thing my dears. How you will please God in every aspect of your life.

So we begin. Masturbation is fine. No worries. That is a scam the Catholics tried to hoodwink us with. The pedophiles had to invent a new sin to stir up some trade. And to sell a few indulgences. It seems that the business at the confessionals was waning. (Who told you to confess your sins to another human in the first place? Like they could actually even forgive you. You make all your confessions to God, you actually feel sorry about it, and then you repent, and stop doing it. That is how it works.) They kept running into people who could not think of any sins that they committed since the last time. So to hoodwink the rubes a bit more often, they invented a brand new sin.

"Touching yourself". What a crock. And you wonder why I will be closing their doors.

Next is Pornography. Again mostly fine. No worries. Once in a very blue moon, it can feel a little better with a little outside imagery added in. Whatever floats your boat. To each his own. Basically, God does not care all that much about it. Not a big issue. You must however strictly avoid all "perverted sex". And that is imagery that portrays any same sex interactions or any form of anal sex. That is perversion. And when you see it, you are to change that channel before your heart even beats one more time. Or it may not beat another..

Next is Anal Sex. Never. You are by now very well aware of God's opinion on homosexuals, so there is no need to repeat. All that is left is you abusing a female in that manner.  And that you have done for the last time. If you ever do that again, I personally will have a hand in your fate. The female does not want to do it. Mr. Wishful Thinking. It hurts, and it is unsanitary, (you like hepatitis?) and it does not provide the pleasure for her that normal proper sex provides. That is selfish sex. You only care about yourself. And they only tell you it is ok only because you pressure them. And now the pressure is off. Because the New Holy Bible says "that you are to never do that again". I say it. And if you ever do that again. I will assign a berserker to your file. And that will be the end of you.

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Oh mai. :oops:

I don't know though, I really feel like Clark Kent is way more maternal than Bruce Wayne. I just don't see him carrying the child.

I don't know if I agree. Comicwise, for someone who has a reputation as a "loner", Batman actually acts as a parental figure for waaaay more kids than Superman does.

Batman has Richard Grayson (Robin I and Nightwing), Barbara Gordon (Batgirl I, though that may be considered more of a mentor relationship) Jason Todd (Robin II), Tim Drake (Robin III), Stephanie Brown (Spoiler and Robin IV), Cassandra Cain (Batgirl II), and even wee Helena (Catwoman's, but not Batman's, baby daughter) and Kara (Supergirl) He also has a bio son of his own (from Talia) but I forget if he met the kid before he died (Richard Grayson is now acting as a parental figure to the boy) While whether or not he's a good parental figure to them largely rests on the current author, in my opinion, the best comics are the ones that show what a caring parental figure he is (which makes sense as his whole reason for being Batman revolves around the loss of his own parents)

The only kid cred Superman has is Kara (Supergirl, his cousin), Kon (technically his son through gene splicing/cloning between Superman and Lex Luthor), and Chris (Zod's son that Clark and Lana adopted) and he never really shined with any of those. IIRC, he really didn't want much to do with Kon and he pretty much abandoned Chris later on.

All in all, I think Batman would be more protective and has a better track record with children (when written well) I think he'd also be OCD-level obsessed with doing all the right things during pregnancy (proper diet, proper sleep, no caffeine, etc) Then again, I think it would be highly amusing to see Batman beating the crap out of any bad guy who even looked the wrong way at the nigh-invulnerable pregnant Superman.

I've... obviously put way too much thought into this. Even though Batman/Superman isn't one of my favorite pairings (I like the kink of Batman/Robin pairings)

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How's the chafing with cloth pads? Better than disposables? I've resorted to tampons out of sheer frustration. The various cups are tempting, but I am freaking TINY, and I'm not sure how one goes about measuring for that sort of thing...

Keep your tiny.

God does not like boob jobs.

Tiny is attractive.

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The term "Sodomy" originated with the story of Sodom - and really, "Sodomite" should be used to describe an inhospitable, mean-spirited person rather than merely a person who likes butt-secks.

I'd go further into the discussion, but I suspect that would be pointless.

That is a very interesting spin on the matter.

However sodomy is strictly prohibited in many places in the bible.

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. (NKJ, Leviticus 18:22)

If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. (NKJ, Leviticus 20:13)

And in the new testament in the book of Romans.

26For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, evil." Romans 1:26-29

So who really cares?

Sodomy is prohibited all over the bible.

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I can't believe I am encouraging you, but it is back on the market. I will send you. A box if you promise to never post here again. Or a case even

I just spent several minutes angsting about this. I mean if we consider ourselves feminists, or even marginal feminists, or hell even know someone with a vagina, do we really want to subject them to this creeptastic dude?

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I can't believe I am encouraging you, but it is back on the market. I will send you. A box if you promise to never post here again. Or a case even

I just spent several minutes angsting about this. I mean if we consider ourselves feminists, or even marginal feminists, or hell even know someone with a vagina, do we really want to subject them to this creeptastic dude?

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At any rate, I really think you and AJ Miller should get together for some kind of cage-match to determine who is the better Messiah. Maybe there could be a series of challenges, for example, concerning turning water to wine and walking on water. That sort of thing.

I will be turning wine into water.

No drinking in the Millennium.

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Is there some form of psychosis that makes you speak in Burma Shave Haiku? I for one, would love some iambic pentameter.

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But that does not mean you can kill your inconvenient babies.

I hate to say it but I totally agree with him on this. NO killing babies, even the inconvenient ones.

Fetuses, however, are perfectly killable. And delicious with a mild dipping sauce.

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Is there some form of psychosis that makes you speak in Burma Shave Haiku? I for one, would love some iambic pentameter.

I am not hip to your counter culture lingo.

Can you speak American?

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I am not hip to your counter culture lingo.

Can you speak American?

Excuse me? Were the words too big? I would think as the Second Coming you would have a larger grasp of the English language. Which part of that would you like me to explain sweetie?

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:angry-cussingblack: Damnit! Brand new carpets to boot. This is why we can't have nice things because someone forgot to shut the door and the stray got in. :angry-fire:

Either someone gets that stray out of here or I'm calling the pound. :angry-screaming:

Now, if you all want a nice pet that is fine but not this reject that most likely has fleas or worse. :obscene-birdiered:

And that is why I prefer tile, although it can crack. But cleanup is so much easier. :D

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Excuse me? Were the words too big? I would think as the Second Coming you would have a larger grasp of the English language. Which part of that would you like me to explain sweetie?

"iambic pentameter".

Never heard of it.

Sounds like a social disease.

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I hate to say it but I totally agree with him on this. NO killing babies, even the inconvenient ones.

Fetuses, however, are perfectly killable. And delicious with a mild dipping sauce.

Life begins at conception.

A fetus is a baby.

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I just spent several minutes angsting about this. I mean if we consider ourselves feminists, or even marginal feminists, or hell even know someone with a vagina, do we really want to subject them to this creeptastic dude?

God is a female.

Silly goose.

The female is meant to rule the home.

Silly.

But that does not mean you can kill your inconvenient babies.

God gave you BIRTH CONTROL PILLS.

And iuds.

And condoms.

And even sponges.

To deal with unwanted pregnancies.

And if that don't work..

You are a parent.

Get used to it.

It is your destiny to procreate.

Now you have.

Get used to it.

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