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Wow!........

I use a menstrual cup & I've heard of people using the ummm fluid from that as a fertilizer for plants, but even that is just too much for me.

Yeah, my parents used to use Mum's menstrual blood on my father's "special" plants. I was never sure if it was as fertiliser or as a sort of folk magic though.

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Menstrual blood is considered a very powerful force, in most magical traditions, and in the hoodoo tradition, serving people food with your bodily fluids mixed into it is an attempt to control them. The Graveyard Dirt blogger seems to pick up some of her practices from hoodoo, though she doesn't seem to be a rootworker.

I remember reading her blog a while ago and coming away unimpressed (for those that don't remember, I'm a cultural Catholic who practices folk magick and witchcraft). Anyway, weird as it may seem, what she's doing is actually part of a magical tradition, though goodness knows I can't imagine why you'd post pictures of yourself doing it. Part of the idea is that you do it in SECRET.

I'm not sure how Hellena and the Graveyard Dirt blog got mixed together - I can't see Hellena being focused enough to study magic, frankly.

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I'm not sure how Hellena and the Graveyard Dirt blog got mixed together - I can't see Hellena being focused enough to study magic, frankly.

Sorry...I think that was my bad. Someone posted earlier in this thread a list of memorable FJ 'moments', and I mistakenly thought they were all Helena's. Apparently just the raw cord secks was hers. :oops:

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It was just both are in the "Things which make you go WHAT THE LIVING FUUUUUUUUCK" file which we pull out and make all new FJists read, Bea ;)

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It was just both are in the "Things which make you go WHAT THE LIVING FUUUUUUUUCK" file which we pull out and make all new FJists read, Bea ;)

And I would love to see them meet up and try to out sexually liberate and deeply philosophise each other whilst smoking large quantities of marijuana, but that may just be me.

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I'm all up for new things. But that as a basting method is going in my 'rather eat my own fungal toe-nail' file.

What is wrong with people? :lol:

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She often feeds her in laws (who they live with) food containing her bodily fluids. Whenever she baked while menstruating she puts a dab of her blood in the dough, and she has also been known to add urine, sperm, spit and vaginal fluids.

She baked something for the mailman containing her bodily fluids (I don't remember which ones) in an attempt to curse him.

The crazy thing is, she seems to be an excellent cook. If it wasn't for her special ingredients her food looks wonderful.

I spent most of yesterday afternoon on her blog - it is just bizarre I tried explain it to my husband on the commute home but I kept running out of words.

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And the REALLY STRANGE thing is that this is a well-known practice in certain circles, to the extent that I won't eat anything at certain people's houses.

TMI?

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She often feeds her in laws (who they live with) food containing her bodily fluids. Whenever she baked while menstruating she puts a dab of her blood in the dough, and she has also been known to add urine, sperm, spit and vaginal fluids.

She baked something for the mailman containing her bodily fluids (I don't remember which ones) in an attempt to curse him.

The crazy thing is, she seems to be an excellent cook. If it wasn't for her special ingredients her food looks wonderful.

I remember this lady!! I read her blog several months back and have been trying to find it ever since. She's a nut.

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Either the sex between the two births was the real thing, or she gave him a handjob and er, applied the product of it as needed. I'm hoping for the latter, because I really don't understand how the former could work, mechanically speaking, with an umbilical cord in the way. Here's the direct quote from her birth story post (at spunoutpost.blogspot.com/2010/11/natural-birthing-of-twins.html):

Standing up, hanging from a rope from the ceiling, taking Currawong off into the back room for a quick fix of sex and semen, walking round the property, leaning all sorts of different ways……it wasn’t working.
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And the REALLY STRANGE thing is that this is a well-known practice in certain circles, to the extent that I won't eat anything at certain people's houses.

TMI?

This is very interesting to me. I'm curious about the volume issue. Are we talking 100ml of blood? 100ul? Is it like 'a dash' or a little more? I can grasp the basic underlying theory as to why, but I'm perplexed about the how. Also, is there a mandate that to be effective, it must be done in secret? If the ingester is aware of the addition, is it no longer effective?

And if my questions are rude, I'm sorry. I'm aware they are off topic, but I am intrigued.

Back on topic, I sometimes think Hellena practices magic like Lauren practices unschooling. Or Brandy practices parenting. Or Steve practices Christianity. Certainly they know some vocabulary, but totally miss the point.

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Graveyard Dirt's tumblr is still active. Merry Christmas!

(edited to add another thought) She has an Amazon wishlist...that includes vegan cookbooks. How is body fluid cooking vegan? I imagine it is cruelty free to the provider, but not to those imbibing.

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This is very interesting to me. I'm curious about the volume issue. Are we talking 100ml of blood? 100ul? Is it like 'a dash' or a little more? I can grasp the basic underlying theory as to why, but I'm perplexed about the how. Also, is there a mandate that to be effective, it must be done in secret? If the ingester is aware of the addition, is it no longer effective?

And if my questions are rude, I'm sorry. I'm aware they are off topic, but I am intrigued.

Back on topic, I sometimes think Hellena practices magic like Lauren practices unschooling. Or Brandy practices parenting. Or Steve practices Christianity. Certainly they know some vocabulary, but totally miss the point.

I've seen a picture of her dab of menstrual blood on her bread dough, and it's just that, a dab. Like she ran her finger between her legs then wiped it on the top of the dough before it rose.

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Sorry to do this to you, but it's not just oral:

The second twin was born 49 hours after the first one.

I should let you all know that the midwife concerned was Lisa Barrett, who is well known here for having caused the (preventable) deaths of several babies. I'm actually extremely surprised this moron's second twin didn't die of sepsis, quite frankly, as I'd be 100% sure that Ms Barrett would not have commenced intravenous antibiotics once Hellfairy's membranes had been ruptured for more than 18 hours; and she would have been incapable of giving the baby prophylactic antibiotics either. It will be interesting to see how that kid develops.

Also, the sex thing is considered an old wives' tale by the Aussie medical establishment, at least: http://www.australiandoctor.com.au/clinical/busting-the-myth/sex-induces-labour. Having said that, they do say there has only been one observational study!

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Warning for discussion of bodily fluids!

I've seen a picture of her dab of menstrual blood on her bread dough, and it's just that, a dab. Like she ran her finger between her legs then wiped it on the top of the dough before it rose.

That's how it's generally done, usually called "laying a trick." And if the ingester becomes aware of it, they can do a "reversal" or an "uncrossing" which negates the effects. The idea is that you get your bodily fluids into someone else in order to exert control over them. If they're aware of it, they can take steps to nullify what you've done AND they'll probably come after you with their own work.

I'm just sayin', you do NOT want to screw around with conjureworkers. They will fuck you up.

(Ms. Graveyard Dirt is a dabbler. She's not properly trained, she mish-mashes hoodoo with western ceremonial magick with traditional sabbatic witchcraft and she calls it her own system. The thing is, like with style, you have to know the rules before you break them. I get the feeling Ms. Graveyard Dirt is just throwing things together and calling it by names she's NOT entitled to use. Dabbing blood in your baking does not make it conjure or witchcraft - it's the beginning of a trick, and there's a hell of a lot more to it than that.)

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I now and again get the fancy to go and visit her.

;)

If I ever get to the other side of the pond again, I promise you we'll take a drive and visit her. Naturally we won't indulge in any food or drink that is offered by the hostess :lol:

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Anyone interested in what hoodoo actually is and how it's practiced can read cat yronwode's [link=http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodoo.html]hoodoo in theory and practice[/link] for a short introduction. Oddly enough, a Jewish Californian woman is now the doyenne of hoodoo, which is a Southern, Christian, African-American form of folk magic.

The really big thing about hoodoo is that it's a set system. You can't swap out bits and pieces of it with other systems and still call it hoodoo. It doesn't work that way - it's a living, breathing tradition, and you either follow it, or you don't. You can borrow from it (as I do) or be influenced by it (I have been), but you can't call it hoodoo if you're not practicing it the traditional way. The trouble with people like Ms. Graveyard Dirt is that she CALLS what she does by various names, all of which have meanings attached to them. She doesn't seem to have studied any of these traditions in depth, though, so she's blithering on about how she does all these things and they're WITCHCRAFT or HOODOO or WHATEVER and honestly? Most of the time it's just shit she read out of a book and adapted to her own circumstances - which is fine, that's bog-standard magical practice, you do what works. But you can't call it by the name of an existing magical tradition that you're not practicing just because you think it sounds impressive.

It's like the right-wingers using Socialist and Communist when what they actually mean is "someone I don't agree with." Words have meanings, especially within certain subcultures like folk magick, and when you claim to practice X, Y, or Z, there's a certain expectation that you ACTUALLY FUCKING PRACTICE X, Y, AND Z, not that you're fucking around with a bunch of crap you read out of books and decided to try out and start writing a blog to make yourself look like a big spooky expert.

I have feelings about Ms. Graveyard Dirt. They are not nice feelings.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled snark, and will go back to Facebook, where I fight about this with various people on various groups.

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I now return you to your regularly scheduled snark, and will go back to Facebook, where I fight about this with various people on various groups.

Would you consider starting an Ask Me Anything thread about this over in Chatter?

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I would, but I don't feel like an expert on any of these things. I've studied magic and magical traditions for a long time, but I wouldn't want to set myself up as any kind of authority. I just know more than your average person about this stuff.

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With the dawning of the new year I find myself filled with electrical charges indicating deep spiritual and physical change. Things did not seem concordant with the ways of the universe when I awoke this morning my mind churning like the eternal coil of the milky way spinning into space. Pondering that time is change and time is merely a meaningless construct of our industrial society I felt determined, like a woman on those final pushes of giving birth to not recognize this artificial construct and yet memorialize it at the same time. What did I need and what did I choose you may ask? I needed a new birth and a new life for this new year as the sun begins to brighten these long dark winter nights boding the coming of spring. And so with the new year I chose a new name. From henceforth and hereafter you shall know me as sebaceousmourningdrizzle. This process as I know of it is tiring and has sucked the energy from my body like a child sucks its mothers milk on a dewsmacked morning as faeries dance with gay abandon in the glade. I want to open like the wings of a speculum and welcome this newyear by weaving yet another song in the concerto of my life. Will you join me in exploring these unknown reaches of genuinity and crafting yourselves a vessel to take you on this journey to the future cosmic understanding of our collective humansphere.

It has been a busy morning with changes being cast aside for new more glittering and pretentious offerings of my overdeveloped sense of self newness. So the time passed while I knit wove and sewed all new furniture for my Hovel under the bower of the goddess honoring my new spirit. A new soft inviting lounge before the fire woven and knit from the downy hair on my consorts ears to comfort me while I rested and dreamed of the new task and year the cosmos has afforded me.

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