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Oh good grief. Is there a reason the whole world seems to have gone running full-tilt off the deep end today? Between that nitwit Akin, this, and dinner with the in-laws, my head hurts.

(I have in-laws who apparently still firmly believe that Obama is a Muslim, the birth certificate is a fake, he wants us to be a socialist (Socialist?) country, he canceled the National Day of Prayer and had a Muslim Day of Prayer instead, and a couple of other things that I've blanked out because the crazy was just too much. Something about Obama bowing down to some foreign leader or other. Oh, and that Michelle Obama is pregnant, although I can't see why that would be a big deal. But then, I don't dismiss someone just because their middle name is Hussein either.)

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Blah, blah, blah, Obama is a Muslim. I think all these people should carry a recording of that sentence with them at all times and just play it for the media because they all sound the same. And, for the sake of argument, who gives a shit if he is a Muslim? We live in a secular country, the religious affiliation should have no bearing on how our leaders lead.

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A friend of mine (who is also a completely crazy conspiracy theorist) is convinced that Obama is a Muslim and this makes him a bad president.

I dont care what religion the president is as long as there is still freedom of religion, and laws are not made in favour of one particular religion, as it doesnt really matter as not all Muslims are terrorists.

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Yeah, tell it to Dave Mustaine, Hank. :roll:

I wonder if I'll see a non-Christian president in my lifetime. I'm...kind of not holding my breath.

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Before Obama was elected I used to say, "America is great. You can be anything you want to be except a non-white, non-male, non-Christian president." I actually cried when Obama was inaugurated because finally I could tell my daughter she could be whatever she wanted to be and actually believe it myself.

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Ugh. Who cares what this nimrod has to say on any subject?

I would quote Laura Ingraham as regards Barbra Streisand and say "Shut Up and Sing," but Junior hasn't any talent for that either.

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Hank Junior was in a documentary about the Whites of West Virginia. Look them up, they are all kinds of dysfunctional. So that is laudable in his eyes, while an accomplished man of a different color is someone to be criticized. Consider the source, I guess.

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but Junior hasn't any talent for that either.

Well he is near to being a legend in country music who can play almost a dozen instruments.just sayin'. He is a bigot and a jumped up cracker who a particular segment of the deep south revere,so he does have some influence.

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The Muslim thing is at least as played out as the birth certificate thing... but here's what I want to know. Let's say you truly believe Muslims are eeevil and that Obama is a Muslim. What Muslim things has Obama done? What effect has "his religion" had on the country?

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Looks like someone's going for the old fashioned attention grab.

What the hell does Obama have to do to appease these people - go back in time to the hospital with a video camera? He gave them everything they wanted and they're still screaming fake.

And yes - if he was Muslim, who gives a shit? The president's religious affiliation has nothing to do with how he runs the country. These idiots just buy into the whole "every Muslim is a terrorist who wants to blow us up" belief.

The Republicans and Tea Partiers (I hate that term, it's ruined actual tea parties for me :() most likely know this year is a lost cause so they're throwing all the crazy/ridiculous crap at the wall and seeing what sticks. Between this and the "you can't get pregnant from rape" and the Chick-Fil-A hijinks, it all makes sense.

As for what they point to as him doing "Muslim" things, my dad's parents are hardcore Republicans and forward my mom all the crazy email forwards about how Obama is a Muslim from Africa who wants to turn us into a godless society and Michelle is the modern day Marie Antoinette. I don't even know if they believe most of it - they just send it on. She got one saying he was spotted without his wedding ring because "Muslims don't wear jewelry during Ramadan." Went to Snopes, saw it was bullshit. It's now a routine that whenever we get an email from my grandma, we head to Snopes to verify heh.

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The Obama is a Muslim thing is actually interesting when you look beyond the fact that it is obviously untrue.

First, the values that the average conservative American associates with Islam are also popular among the religious right. One would think they would hope and pray for a Muslim president, as they see Muslims at least. Modesty, sexual virtue, family values aka kill teh gheyz, Old Testament theocracy, etc. These are things that the average American associates with Islam and also things that the Republican party espouses.

Second, there is nothing about Obama's voting record that suggests he is okay with Shariah law. He has consistently come out in support of women. His relationship with his wife and daughters seems very egalitarian. Again, I am comparing Obama to the typical conservative American view of Islam, not to actual Muslims. I would be more inclined to believe the President is a closet atheist or agnostic; in fact, I kinda suspect that.

Third, if he was Muslim, why would it matter? There is no Constitutional limit on the religion of the president. It is not relevant. It is the least important faux fact about Obama. It really should not matter.

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I would be more inclined to believe the President is a closet atheist or agnostic; in fact, I kinda suspect that.

You and me both.

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I also believe that Obama is essentially atheist.

I went to a discussion group on Sunday morning. We discuss everything topical that a person can imagine. One of the women said that she was going to see Michelle Obama. An older woman in the group groaned and made some very negative comments. This is an older Jewish lady who considers herself a feminist of the first order. She is pro-choice and has no problem with gay people. However, she absolutely believes that Obama is a Muslim Jew-Hater and she is going to vote for Romney because...her words...."America First. I will not vote for a Muslim."

I was appalled. I turned to her and said that was exactly what good Germans said about the Jews in Europe when Hitler came into power. Shame on her.

The thing is that she could not see the hate in herself. She is absolutley convinced that this is true and that it disqualifies him as President. Many Jewish people feel that the fact that Obama tries to be more even handed on the Israel/Middle East issues that he hates Israel and wants to see her destroyed. You cannot get this out of their heads.

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Seconding (thirding? fourthing?) the belief that Obama may be Atheist or Agnostic.

I used to get a lot of wingnut stuff forwarded to me. After those relative ignored requests from me not to send that kind of stuff to my box, I started hitting "Reply All" and sending links to appropriate pages from Snopes. I'm just mean that way.

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Looks like someone's going for the old fashioned attention grab.

What the hell does Obama have to do to appease these people - go back in time to the hospital with a video camera? He gave them everything they wanted and they're still screaming fake.

Haha, that reminds me of when he released his birth video last year :lol:

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Haha, that reminds me of when he released his birth video last year :lol:

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I love a president who can joke around. That was hilarious!

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You and me both.

Can you ladies tell me why you think that? I'm genuinely curious.

Even a photograph or video of President Obama's actual delivery wouldn't change the frothers' minds. They'd just say it was photoshopped. I give up. :(

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Haha, that reminds me of when he released his birth video last year :lol:

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That's great. I'd never seen that before. :)

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Before Obama was elected I used to say, "America is great. You can be anything you want to be except a non-white, non-male, non-Christian president." I actually cried when Obama was inaugurated because finally I could tell my daughter she could be whatever she wanted to be and actually believe it myself.

Me too, although, I didn't have my daughter yet. I am so glad her first real memories are of a president who looks like her.

All of this Muslim not born in the country is just noise to distract from harder campaign issues. What about Romney and Ryan's lack of/mistakes on their financial disclosures? Who "forgets" that his wife gets a 5 million dollar inheritance? Riight.

Why isn't anyone talking about the real issues: Do we want a president named Mittens, who has a really nasty wife? (she has MS, but, because she has hers, i.e. tons of money and insurance up the fanny, thinks those of us who don't should just suffer? Fuck you and your race horses, Annie!). And Ryan's wife was a pharmaceutical lobbyist, yeah, she's not going to be on the side of big Pharm! I realize I am talking about their wives, but First Ladies don't just bake cookies. Eleanor Roosevelt ran the country for awhile, and look at Hillary.

Hank II can't just come on out and say he is what he is: a racist who caters to a certain segment of society, the same on who nods along with Glen Beck and Donald Trump.

And what happened to the "Criticizing a sitting, war-time president is un-American" that I was forcefed during the years of W: The Boy King?

The USA's elections must be extremely entertaining to the world. The last time another country entertained me so much was when the French president married a coke addled cast off of Mick Jagger's and tried to make a lady out of her. No Galatea, she!

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Before Obama was elected I used to say, "America is great. You can be anything you want to be except a non-white, non-male, non-Christian president." I actually cried when Obama was inaugurated because finally I could tell my daughter she could be whatever she wanted to be and actually believe it myself.

We have not had a female POTUS or VPOTUS.

Just sayin'.

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Seconding (thirding? fourthing?) the belief that Obama may be Atheist or Agnostic.

Agree also. He strikes me as too logical and pragmatic and Vulcan-esq to believe in a magic cloud man.

If so, he's hardly our first closeted agnostic/atheist president. As far as modern presidents go, I've always pegged JFK as one too. Very different from his uber Catholic brother Bobby.

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Can you ladies tell me why you think that? I'm genuinely curious.

Even a photograph or video of President Obama's actual delivery wouldn't change the frothers' minds. They'd just say it was photoshopped. I give up. :(

I think it too. I don't think he really believes in talking snakes, virgin births, men parting the sea and all the other fairy tales included in the bible. I hope he screams it from the White House balcony just before his second term is up when some bigoted Republican still accuses him of being a foreign-born Muslim.

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I think it too. I don't think he really believes in talking snakes, virgin births, men parting the sea and all the other fairy tales included in the bible. I hope he screams it from the White House balcony just before his second term is up when some bigoted Republican still accuses him of being a foreign-born Muslim.[/quote]

:lol:

I really do think he'll come out eventually and I love the balcony imagery. Finished off with a "you fucking morons" muttered under his breath.

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