A solution for the declining fertility of J'uterus

[Peas n carrots]

I wonder if The Uterus has caught wind of this. She could harvest healthy ovarian tissue from a J'slave and use it to extend her fertility. 40 Kids and Counting...imagine that show!

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9375952/Women-could-delay-the-menopause-indefinitely-with-ovary-transplant-doctors.html

 

 

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A technique to remove pieces of ovary, store it for decades and then replace it with delicate surgery could effectively put a woman's menopause 'on ice', doctors said.

 

The only thing preventing them from having babies into their old age would be their physical ability to carry a pregnancy, they said.

 

The controversial notion would allow career women peace of mind with a fertility insurance policy so they can find a partner, settle down and become financially secure before starting a family.

 

By delaying the menopause they could also avoid the increased risk of osteoporosis and heart disease that come with the end of their fertile life but may raise the risk of breast and womb cancer.

 

A conference heard how more than 20 babies have been born worldwide to patients who either had their own ovarian tissue removed before treatment that would have left them infertile, and replaced afterwards, or twins where one donated tissue to the other.

 

Dr Sherman Silber, an American surgeon, has been involved in transplants for 11 women at St Luke’s Hospital in St Louis, Missouri, US. He said: "A woman born today has a 50 per cent chance of living to 100. That means they are going to be spending half of their lives post-menopause.

 

“But you could have grafts removed as a young woman and then have the first replaced as you approach menopausal age. You could then put a slice back every decade.

 

“Some women might want to go through the menopause, but others might not.â€

 

That would mean women would not have to “watch their body clocksâ€, he said, and would only be physically limited by their ability to carry a baby and give birth.

 

Transplants carried out eight years ago are still working showing the technique is 'robust' and it should no longer be considered experiemental, he said.

 

One transplant from one 39-year-old to her identical twin, has lasted seven years so far without failing.

 

In that time the recipient has had two healthy baby boys and a baby girl, all without IVF, conceiving the last aged 45.

 

Originally it was thought the transplants would only last months, or a few years at most, giving the women just a brief chance of conceiving. But Dr Silber said early hopes had been surpassed.

 

He said: “It's really fantastic, we didn't expect a little piece of ovarian tissue to last this long.â€

 

He added that ovarian slices could now be frozen for decades, thawed out for replantation when needed, and be just as effective as 'fresh' grafts between twins.

 

In the meantime the tissue would not have aged - effectively putting the woman's body clock on ice.

 

One of his patients has had a baby thanks to a slice frozen for 12 years.

 

In Belgium, a woman has given birth after her ovarian tissue was frozen for decade, and in Italy a woman has just had a healthy baby girl after her tissue was frozen for seven years.

 

He and European colleagues have presented their findings this week at the European Society for Human Reproduction and Embryology (ESHRE) in Istanbul.

 

In a paper published earlier this year in the journal Molecular Human Reproduction, Dr Silber wrote: “All modern women are concerned about what is commonly referred to as their ‘biological clock’ as they worry about the chances of conceiving by the time they have established their career and/or their marriage and their financial stability.

 

"Most of our cured cancer patients, who have young ovarian tissue frozen, feel almost grateful they had cancer, because otherwise they would share this same fear all modern, liberated women have about their ‘biological clock'."

 

The first operation, conducted on Oudara Touirat in Belgium in 2003, led to a pregnancy and successful birth a year later.

 

Strips of her ovarian tissue were removed before chemotherapy for Hodgkin's lymphoma and were replaced after she was given the all clear.

 

In 2008, The Daily Telegraph revealed that Susanne Butscher, who received a whole ovary transplant in a world first from her twin sister, had given birth to a daughter, named Maja.

 

Mrs Butscher, then 39, had gone through the menopause early. Dr Silber carried out the operation in 2007 and 13 months later it was confirmed she had conceived naturally.

 

All the women who have undergone the procedure have had cancer but doctors said it was now time to extend it to others.

 

Dr Gianluca Gennarelli, a Turin-based gynaecologist involved in the Italian case, said in time it should be made available to women with other conditions - including those likely to suffer early menopause due to family history.

 

He said: “In the 21st century many women don't want to have children until they are in their 30s, rather than at 18. But if your mother went through menopause before 40 that could be very difficult.â€

 

Stuart Lavery, head of IVF at Hammersmith Hospital in London, said the findings showed ovarian transplants could last a lot longer than previously thought.

 

Previous studies had shown some only had “a very finite lifespan†of six to nine months, meaning women having to have repeat operations.

 

Tim Hillard, a gynaecologist and trustee of the British Menopause Society, said the technique was 'exciting'.

 

He said: "This is an exciting developing as a fertility treatment, however we would need much more data before claims could be made about the menopause. You would have to balance it very carefully, the higher risks of breast and womb cancer that go with having oestrogen circulating for longer against the increased risk of heart disease, oesteoporosis and maybe dementia that go with the menopause.

 

"Theoretically it could be used as an alternative to hormone replacement therapy, particularly in women who go through the menopause prematurely, but that could be ten or 15 years away."

[Witsec7]

Easier than that, just have a fertilized ovum implanted in one of the sister uteri.

[Petronella7]

God, they would do it too. Mullet has already indicated that she will compromise her own health and life expectancy to keep having children into her forties and beyond, even though every pregnancy is harder on her body than the one before. She also cares little about the health and well-being of each child once it's born, as shown by her child-rearing methods and her willingness to wean each baby prematurely in an effort to become fertile again as soon as possible. In her quest to be "quiverful" she goes beyond what is normal for the human body and pushes to the physical limit to keep having more children. She would not hesitate to take advantage of any medical advance to increase fertility, even if the procedure is extreme, even if it violates the bodily integrity of one of her existing daughters.

[Witsec7]

God, they would do it too. Mullet has already indicated that she will compromise her own health and life expectancy to keep having children into her forties and beyond, even though every pregnancy is harder on her body than the one before. She also cares little about the health and well-being of each child once it's born, as shown by her child-rearing methods and her willingness to wean each baby prematurely in an effort to become fertile again as soon as possible. In her quest to be "quiverful" she goes beyond what is normal for the human body and pushes to the physical limit to keep having more children. She would not hesitate to take advantage of any medical advance to increase fertility, even if the procedure is extreme, even if it violates the bodily integrity of one of her existing daughters.

The only roadblock to this would be obtaining semen from Jimboob without him committing the sin of Onan :lol:

[pixydust]

Michelle would never use of of the J'slaves as a surrogate, all of the attention would be on the J'slave. Michelle doesn't do this to have more kids, she does it for the attention.

[Peas n carrots]

The only roadblock to this would be obtaining semen from Jimboob without him committing the sin of Onan :lol:

LOL

I think as others have said on this board she is addicted to being pregnant...or at least the attention it brings to her. I imagine her declining fertility has to have a massive psychological impact on her...this has been her one function in life for so long, and now it's going away.

[No Fun My Babe]

I think she'd definitely do it. The J slaves really wouldn't be a surrogate, merely a donor. J'chelle would still be the one pregnant, which is all that she craves. Yep, she'd most certainly do this.

[DifferentGurl]

I was going to say prayer....but this works too, I guess. ;)

[shesinsane]

J'ichelle and JB decided to leave their womb open to God... and maybe Dr. Silber. Missouri's not that far a drive from Arkansas.

[Mela99]

Lemme guess, Jesus will tell them to do it. That way it isn't their decision and they aren't playing God.

[Visionoyahweh]

They're never going to do anything incest-y. I don't know why people get so caught up in those fantasies.

A JB&M embryo in a non-relative surrogate mother, while Michelle fakes a pregnancy is about as far as I bet they'd go. That surrogate would be up to her eyeballs in hush money.

[Jezebel]

Ah, but the big problem here is that Michelle's poor uterus is shot. All those pregnancies, and multiple C-sections? Even if she could keep pumping out the eggs, bringing another pregnancy to viability--much less term--is unlikely. So she'd need a uterine transplant, as well.

Considering the dearth of current marriage prospects for the older girls, I'm sure she could convince one to decide that Jesus had laid it on her heart to keep her mother's babymaking career going. And in 20 years, when that one's busted, she's sure to have another candidate among the J'21-J'40 crowd.

And now I'm picturing a future Michelle, birthing her 60th child. Of course, she won't be much more than an osteoporotic lump of jelly who spends her life floating in a tank by then, but the mullet hair will still be the same.

[Peas n carrots]

Ah, but the big problem here is that Michelle's poor uterus is shot. All those pregnancies, and multiple C-sections? Even if she could keep pumping out the eggs, bringing another pregnancy to viability--much less term--is unlikely. So she'd need a uterine transplant, as well.

Considering the dearth of current marriage prospects for the older girls, I'm sure she could convince one to decide that Jesus had laid it on her heart to keep her mother's babymaking career going. And in 20 years, when that one's busted, she's sure to have another candidate among the J'21-J'40 crowd.

And now I'm picturing a future Michelle, birthing her 60th child. Of course, she won't be much more than an osteoporotic lump of jelly who spends her life floating in a tank by then, but the mullet hair will still be the same.

True, the uterus itself is shot. But that hasn't stopped her so far.

TBH I really imagine Michelle in a "Whatever Happened To Baby Jane?" type of scenario, in a state of arrested pretend fertility carrying around a baby doll and pretending to breast feed/diaper change/burp it all day.

[chaotic life]

The cases listed in the article are all auto-donations, except for a case of identical twins. Any transplantation that is not previously frozen ovarian tissue from the recipient is going to become a full organ tranplant and require full transplant protocal, which itself is difficult to accomplish pregnancy. I suspect ethically doctors wouldn't do it.

So, she would have needed to have anticipated the situation ten years ago and frozen some of her ovarian tissue back then.

However, that won't deal with the uterus and body that have completely given up the fight as well. So yes, she would need a surrogate, and since she wouldn't want anyone to know she used a surrogate, she would need to fake a pregnancy (hey, at least she has lots of experience to fake but not sure how she'll hide her cycles from that big calendar on the wall).

[Visionoyahweh]

And now I'm picturing a future Michelle, birthing her 60th child. Of course, she won't be much more than an osteoporotic lump of jelly who spends her life floating in a tank by then, but the mullet hair will still be the same.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No ... ust_Scream

[Minerva]

So biologically a J'Slave would be the mother and Jimbob would be the father? I could see Michelle being willing to take immunosuppressants for the rest of her life to be fertile, but they couldn't risk having to explain the resulting series of babies with birth defects.

[Jezebel Duggar]

Ah, but the big problem here is that Michelle's poor uterus is shot. All those pregnancies, and multiple C-sections? Even if she could keep pumping out the eggs, bringing another pregnancy to viability--much less term--is unlikely. So she'd need a uterine transplant, as well.

Yeah, they're practically falling out of there now.

ETA: OMG! I just noticed your screen name. I didn't mean to steal Jezebel from you... want me to change it? (If I can?)

[Witsec7]

ETA: OMG! I just noticed your screen name. I didn't mean to steal Jezebel from you... want me to change it? (If I can?)

Excuse me for being rude, but I get really fucking tired of folks not reading the rules. Makes me want to reach through your computer screen and rip all the letters and characters off your fucking keyboard and crush them with my favorite fetish shoes.

[Visionoyahweh]

nd crush them with my favorite fetish shoes.

Bacon bra and fetish shoes? I need to change my underwear. :obscene-sexualdoggy:

[Witsec7]

Bacon bra and fetish shoes? I need to change my underwear. :obscene-sexualdoggy:

When the shoes are out of service I use them as bookends :D

[Jezebel Duggar]

Excuse me for being rude, but I get really fucking tired of folks not reading the rules. Makes me want to reach through your computer screen and rip all the letters and characters off your fucking keyboard and crush them with my favorite fetish shoes.

I'm not trying to be rude either, but I just re-read the rules and I honestly don't know which one you think I broke.

[Witsec7]

I'm not trying to be rude either, but I just re-read the rules and I honestly don't know which one you think I broke.

You get one name.

[Jezebel Duggar]

You're right, there is no way to change it. Sorry I pissed you off.

[desertvixen]

A JB&M embryo in a non-relative surrogate mother, while Michelle fakes a pregnancy is about as far as I bet they'd go. That surrogate would be up to her eyeballs in hush money.

This sounds like a cracked-out soap opera plot... I like it!

Second the dislike for people not reading rules...

[Witsec7]

You're right, there is no way to change it. Sorry I pissed you off.

Trust me I didn't create that post for you. I use it every time a new person posits a stoopid fucking question.