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  1. 21 screenshots of Lori Alexander's f/b post of "Should a Wife Disobey her husband" Screenshots as of 10:16 am EST
  2. On to the inside of the book! This is where we find the first and I'm going to go out on a limb and guess the worst case of editing in the book. The page numbers are wrong on the index page. I already knew about this extremely unprofessional editing error as I had read about it. the person who sent me the book had kindly written in the proper page numbers making looking things up much easier. The editor that Lori used is supposedly highly regarded and has edited some high profile books, so I'm not sure how something so basic got by him. Lori starts the book with a note to the readers where she explains what set her on the path from rebellious wife to transformed wife. If you have read Lori's blog for any length of time this story will not be new to you. However, you may notice that a few details she shared on her blog are missing. She tells us that "a few years ago" (12 by my count, Ken says 15 in his contribution at the end of the book) she and Ken were taking a walk and Ken essentially told her he didn't know what their future would look like once all the kids were out of the house. She notes they were very different from each other and the only things they had in common were the kids various sporting/dancing activities. This is why you shouldn't marry someone you are really in love (or even like) with just because you think they will keep you in the spoiled lifestyle you have led up to that point in your life. She doesn't go into the bits about not loving Ken and not having "butterflies" about anyone ever. She next tells us that problems started on their honeymoon when her adult husband dared to eat "fake cheese spread" on Ritz crackers. Oh, the humanity! Again how do you marry someone you know so little about? Is this the first time Ken has eaten in front of Lori or did he hide his dirty junk food love from her the whole time they were dating because he knew she was a "health nut?" She goes on to lament that her feelings of discontentment were due to the fact that she and Ken never connected in a meaningful way early on in their marriage. Perhaps because she didn't really love him, but saw him as a walking ATM? Thankfully, they had children and each baby gave her more excuses to ignore Ken. YAY! After Ken told her the awful truth about their marriage she thought back to other walks when Ken would tell her all the things she was doing wrong. She hated this because she felt like Ken was trying to "fix" her. On the previous page, she notes that few things were off limits when it came to her desire to "fix" Ken and make him into the husband she thought he should be. Self-awareness - Lori is doing it all kinds of wrong Then she found Created to be His Helpmeet by Debi Pearl. On her blog, she tells us that Debi spanked her and taught her what she was doing wrong. In the book, she uses the word mentored. She saw the error of her ways and became a transformed wife. This is why she decided to write her book to help those women that have tried counseling, reading books (the jokes just write themselves) and talking to other women. It seems to me she could have just recommended people read Debi's book and saved a lot of time, but that wouldn't get Lori the attention she craves. There is no going viral just recommending someone else's old book now is there? Next up: Lori's life story!
  3. Starting this thread at the request of a new member, @true believer so as not to disrupt another thread.
  4. So this guy in my local community.... I cannot even. While I am grateful for the attention his stupidity is getting, and the lively discussions going on in the comments, I am horrified at the way many are excusing his use of the word "submission" and defending the traditional culture in Asia. The couple is most definitely not fundie as evidenced in the last bit about buying amulets from the temple. Is our society falling backward or what?! https://www.facebook.com/Jerald.Lie/posts/10153425125304599?fref=nf&pnref=story Quote and picture were taken from a public facebook site.
  5. higgledypiggledy

    Mormons, Husbands and Submission

    Well, I know that mormons sometimes come under fire here, especially since we have a couple of wack job blogs we follow with submissive mormon women. So I was FLORRED, FLOORED!!!! when I heard the update of a family from the town I grew up in. They were the visable mormons, you know the type from high school. They didn't date until they were sixteen, squeaky clean, went to religious school before school, the boys graduated school and went on missions before going to college. Well, the mom left the dad and dad was excommunicated. So I went to the source to find out what was up. I thought it might be for adultery or physical abuse or something. Well, according to ex wife and kids (they are all over 18 now I think) it was for "unrighteous dominion" which is explained to me as controlling the family and expecting them to submit to his desires without question. Yup, the guy was excommunicated for treating his wife like a doormat. So, after I picked my jaw up off the floor I had to probe. Was he physically abusive? No. Was there an affair in past? No. What made her say enough, this is wrong? The wife just finally decided enough was enough and that her marriage didn't resemble what she was taught at church and that she felt she deserved the family they preached about. She went to her leader and said "I am leaving my husband and this is why: I should never have put up with it for so long. I have been made to feel like I was a second class citizen in my home and taught by my husband that I was to defer to him in all things no matter what." So, I'm not sure exactly how the logistics work but I guess the leader opened an investigation and a panel interviewed all the kids about their life growing up, what they were taught, how they were disciplined, how the father treated the wife, what they understood the role of a wife to be etc... The wife and husband had the ability to call witnesses. It sounds a little like actually going to court but with a group of church leaders. The panel found that the husband had been manipulative and spiritually abusive in how he interpreted the role of a wife and was excommunicated. IHe was still welcome to attend church and associate with members of the congregation and was encouraged to do so but he couldn't pray, preach or teach. He was also told that to be invited back in he would need to repent, seek counseling and the forgiveness of his wife. Also, she was not expected to stay with him and the marriage "seal" was broken which as I understand it means that while she was divorcing the guy in civil court, the church extended a spiritual divorcement. Holy Cow!!!!!!! So this leaves me wondering which is more representational of mormons. The nutty blogs we follow or this case. I know there are mormons on this forum. PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE comment. I am CURIOUS?!?!? and frankly confused!?!?!?! What is your opinion folks? Are mormons into submissive wives and man as ruler or not?
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