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  1. Karen got out of the house, got married, and visited us. Continue from here:
  2. Lisafer


    I thought I'd write a blog post about homeschooling, one of the parts of my upbringing of which I have both good and bad memories. To be frank, I'm actually currently homeschooling my own older child (the other is too young yet). I think a lot of the difference between me and my parents lies in why, not as much in how. I'm not doing it to keep my children from the world. I'm not Christian myself, but probably 90% of the public school teachers in this area are. I'm homeschooling because I enjoy providing my children with an educational experience that I can tailor to their learning styles. If it stops working for us, we'll re-evaluate putting them in school. My parents homeschooled their kids because they firmly believed that public schools were instruments of Satan (although they might not have used that specific term). They thought that the government used schools as indoctrination camps to make children into atheists and evolutionists. They had both been educated in public schools, so I guess the atheist indoctrination didn't take. They both held professional licensures as well in a medical field (not being specific for privacy). Needless to say, our education was heavily Christian-based. We used Rod and Staff, Abeka, Apologia, Sonlight, etc. in our curriculum, and participated in a homeschool reading program in the summer and homeschool spelling bees as well. My mother focused heavily on seat work and completing workbooks. Every morning she'd have a list of the tasks to be completed written out on a whiteboard. We were allowed to take the different tasks in any order, as long as they got done. We weren't allowed free play time until after the schoolwork was completed, usually by 1 or 2 in the afternoon at the latest in the older grades (we'd get up, have our private Bible time, breakfast, and start school by about 7:30). We had family Bible time in the morning and evening, and my mother would read fiction aloud to us before bed. The cons: massive focus on fundamentalist Christianity, extremely whitewashed American history (MLK was scorned as a lying communist--??? still haven't figured that one out), young-earth creationism, lack of education about other religions. The pros: my mother enjoyed teaching, and I enjoyed learning. We had access to a lot of books, fiction and non-fiction. Except for the gaps noted above, I got a pretty solid educationin English, math, literature, music, and art and had no trouble moving into college classes when I was about 18. Homeschooling was one of the few things I remember fondly about a childhood I describe as "kinda sucky." I learned to cook and sew pretty well, skills that have come in handy for me, and in spite of the no-evolution bias, I was damn good at college anatomy and physiology classes because I'd learned a lot of it already from Apologia curriculum. It was hard to fill in the gaps, though. I'm still catching up on movies that most people my age saw years ago! And I thought I had a lot of history knowledge, but what I had were dates and fact snippets, not understanding, because I was taught a biased view of history that showed white Christians as the saviors of the world. Ugh. And studying the Bible as if it was all completely factual didn't do me any favors, either. All in all, I'm not sorry that I was homeschooled, and I know my parents were trying to do what they thought was the right thing in educating us at home. What makes me angry is that my parents both went to college, and then tried to deny me the same choice because I was a girl and I was "supposed" to focus on homemaking, marriage, and babies. I started community college under a cloud of disapproval, but my mom had encouraged the love of learning, and I wasn't about to stop just because I'd finished high school. I had a lot of mental conflict because of not "honoring" my parents, but the urge to do something with my life overpowered the doubts that stemmed from my upbringing. I couldn't imagine just sitting at home waiting for a man. And I didn't want a bunch of kids. My older child is doing great with homeschooling so far. But I have no fear that Satan is lurking in the halls at the local public school. If anything, I'd be worried about too much Christianity there! I know some people had utterly horrible experiences with homeschooling, and wouldn't dream of doing it with their kids. I feel that I can give my kids some opportunities with homeschooling that might not be available in our local public schools. As I said before, it comes down to WHY people choose to educate in that manner. Parental involvement is key. And as screwed up as my mom's beliefs were, she was involved and genuinely making an effort to educate us.
  3. A new blog with a new title that makes for an unfortunate-sounding acronym. Continued from:
  4. Shoes, schedules, IKEA, jobs . . . It's all about Erika. Carry on. (Last seen here:
  5. Continues from Part 3: http://www.freejinger.org/topic/24836-erika-shupe-grim-rictus-large-families-on-purpose-part-3/
  6. Erika *shudder* has not posted much new content lately. She's been mostly reposting old entries. *smug grin* The Shupes have 9 homeschooled kids. All of the children, from the teens down to the toddlers, go to bed at the same time. But the teens are allowed to get up as early as they want! *middle finger* Their days are blocked out in 15 minute increments, and everything is superduper organized. Most of the time the kids aren't allowed to play in the yard because it's too muddy, so Erika makes them run laps on the deck for a few minutes for exercise. Mealtime at the Shupe residence is very regimented. Every day they have green smoothies for breakfast, and every day they have salads for lunch. There are no snacks. Sometimes Erika makes the kids have popcorn and energy bars for dinner while she and Bob chow down on take out from Olive Garden. *grrr* All of the girls are crammed into one tiny bedroom, and the boys are crammed into another. *cry* Thanks to the interference of CPS, they recently installed triple bunks so that the windows are actually usable as a means of escape in case of a fire. Erika has this incredibly annoying way of writing out emoticons. *smile* <-- like this. And she overuses the everlovin' fuck out of them. *scream* Enjoy with us, won't you, the hyper-controlling Erika Shupe and her poor family. Previously: http://www.freejinger.org/topic/24406-erika-shupe-fake-smile-large-families-on-purpose-part-2/ Erika archive: viewforum.php?f=207 Blog: largefamiliesonpurpose.com
  7. Previous thread here: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=25981 Erika archive: viewforum.php?f=207 How to summarize Erika? *wince* Erika has 9 homeschooled kids and recently suffered a miscarriage. She does not believe that women in their 40s are more likely to suffer miscarriages, instead claiming that that's just something doctors made up out of fear of overpopulation. *incredulous look* All of her children, from the 16-year-old down to the toddlers, go to bed at the same time. But the teens are allowed to get up as early as they want! *raspberry* Their days are blocked out in 15 minute increments, and everything is superduper organized. Objects are only allowed to be used for their intended purpose, except for beach towels. Her kids are allowed to get as creative as they want with their beach towels. *yawn* She utilizes a point system with her kids, that allows them to earn exciting rewards such as a single jelly bean! And they don't get to choose the flavor! Her teens enjoyed fiction reading too much, so now they're only allowed to do it for a few hours on the weekends. *sob* All of the girls are crammed into one tiny bedroom, and the boys are crammed into another. *cry* And she has this incredibly annoying way of writing out emoticons. *smile* Enjoy with us, won't you, the hyper-controlling Erika Shupe and her poor family.
  8. Perennially wink/smile/sigh Erika who's blog I usually like (her writing style is quite good and her tips are interesting if not relevant to me) somehow turned a seemingly nice comment from a blog reader into a foaming diatribe about the readers children and lifestyle. I like her blog, but she's really lost it this time. She's an ATI AND Maxwell fan (heavily promotes his books). Feel free to visit..... Www.largefamiliesonpurpose.com.
  9. Announcement video on her YouTube. I really thought (and hoped) the twins would be her last, especially as she's admitted to using some form of contraception - she schedules her poor babies from day 1 so doesn't even get the limited and uncertain break that nursing on demand can provide.
  10. 'Large Families on Purpose' is one of my favorite fundy blogs. While Erika is batshit crazy and super controlling, I do think she is gifted when it comes to organizing and love to read her posts on the subject. Today I noticed she posted new pictures of the kids. What struck me is that most of the girls were in sleeveless tops and the oldest daughter's was especially noticeable. These tops were all quite appropriate but hardly something you see on most fundy kids! This aught my attention because Erika has written time and time again about how important modesty is (while hypocritically posting pictures of her boys naked on the toilet while potty training). She even posted pictures of the girl's burka-style bathing suits in the past! So why the sudden change to non-modest tops? Is she letting the kids pick their own style? Could there be hope for the Shupes in moving a little less strict fundy and more moderate in some of their dress and actions?
  11. Well, it's been rehomed too. From her comments section on her facebook page, when asked how the puppy situation was going: When a reader suggests that she try other breeds of dogs, she's just not getting it:
  12. largefamiliesonpurpose.com/2013/05/losing-baby-weight-part-1-diet-plan.html (I searched for this topic but apologize if it's been posted before. This is my first time starting a thread, but I was so upset that I just had to do it.) I'm not a dietician by any means, and more power to Erika if this is what she wants for herself, but when I read that she was imposing this plan on the oldest girl (fifteen), I was really concerned. It seems A.) really limiting nutritionally, and B.) not enough calories for an active fifteen-year-old. I'm even more disturbed that she's referring to her teenage daughter as "on a diet," especially when she looks to be perfectly healthy in all of her pictures. Fundies always talk about sheltering their children from the evils of the world, but it looks to me like this is a recipe for body issues from Mommy Dearest herself. Combined with the fact that some of her kids have always looked itty bitty to me in pictures, especially compared to their siblings, I really worry for these kids and their relationships with food/eating. The oldest boy in particular looks so much smaller than his three-years-younger sister and about the same size as his four-years-younger brother; it's hard to believe he's ten! Obviously this could be a perfectly normal part of growing, but since Erika has always posted adamantly about serving all her kids the same food and no exceptions, I doubt any of them would be getting any extra nutrition if they needed it. Only one other person so far has commented on Erika's post expressing any kind of concern for her daughter, so I just had to make this thread in hopes that FJ-ites would edumacate her. Or at least make me feel less alone in thinking she is some certified fresh grade-A crazy this week.
  13. I wish I was making this up. A sponsored ad from Large Families on Purpose came up with a link to an article from Generation Cedar. I hid that thing right quick. *shudder* She's spending money to spread her message. UGH.
  14. Yeah, well, she rehomed it. It wasn't trainable enough for her, so she ditched it and got a puppy (another Shih Tzu) instead. I really wish I was kidding. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 597&type=1
  15. Perhaps Hell has indeed frozen over. I just read this on Facebook: First she got birds. Even more shocking, she kept them for more than a week (birds are extremely messy, something Erika doesn't tolerate... remember, she is the one who claims dust mites have a bad odor). Then she was talking about getting a cat, but I have no clue if they actually followed through with this or not. Cats can not be controlled and we all know Erika loves control, so I am hoping she moved on from this idea. Now she wants a dog? Even more shocking, she wants a PUPPY? She will have a nervous breakdown the first time it pees on the carpeting! It makes me wonder if maybe Erika has gone on some kind of medication to make her more relaxed.
  16. Erica Shupe is so much worse than Kate Gosslein...She is so tightly wound, so controlling, that the hospital where she delivered her last children KEPT all her "baby notes" to turn over to Child Protective Svs. The true reason she no longer sees her inlaws, besides all their criticism of her, is that her mother in law took one of her kids to another room to feed her, to quiet her crying from hunger, and Erica threw down. WHO refuses to allow her child to be fed unless she says so??? Check out how many of her posts gave been deleted. Wonder how many letters they got from CPS?
  17. Including Zsu! facebook.com/LargeFamiliesOnPurpose Erika posted a link to this article: foxnews.com/health/2014/08/13/new-method-to-help-newborns-sleep-through-night/ Which takes abusive sleep training tactics to the next level by suggesting you start with newborns. Why wait until they are the ripe old age of 6 weeks? She states she has been doing this for 16 years which shouldn't surprise anyone. But instead of likes and support, she got a ton of comments about how neglectful and cruel this is, not to mention unscientific, since babies have small stomachs and need to eat. And God designed them that way so that is even further proof that we should feed them as needed. Each of those comments got tons of likes. So this made me thrilled and then Zsu chimed in, also agreeing that this was bad advice, and then taking it to another level that involved bashing Erika for using birth control: Oooo in your face, Erika. Are they enemies? Because I like that. Basically she is saying God designed women to breastfeed frequently, and that prevents another pregnancy from happening too soon. If you don't breastfeed so much you might have to have abortions, I mean use birth control. So knowing that Erika is probably pissed off and squirming has made my day. She has yet to respond.
  18. Serving Erika that is. In her most recent post she gives her readers a peek into their summer schedule, and while Erika is very generous (giving her oldest daughters a WHOLE 30 minutes of free time per day), one can't help but notice that they spend a large majority of their day caring for Erika's children and cleaning Erika's house. largefamiliesonpurpose.com/2014/06/summer-schedule-2014-for-nine-children.html#more From the comments: Reader: Erika:
  19. From her FB page: HELP WITH PRODUCTIVITY & LEARNING - I was told something at the recent Christian Heritage Homeschool and Family Discipleship Conference that really struck a chord with me, and which I thought you all might benefit from as well. That it's not only good to strive to be more productive and learning with our time, but to *actually have less entertainment available*. I often think we should be listening more to hymns during our days than Broadway musical music or movie sound tracks; that we should listen to messages in the car instead of audio books all the time; that we should have more non-fiction reading in our home than fictional. But so often in my weakness I desire the "dessert" type of time-users rather than the "meaty" ones. And it has so helped me to do what my spirit was leading me to - by not having the entertainment even available! How simple! We don't keep audio books in the car, but albums of messages. We don't check out from the library all the fictional reading (chapter books for older kids - we still get all the little kid's books), but rather non-fiction, educational books. Years ago we removed our TV from our home so it's not even a temptation to vegging out and watching it. There's nothing inherently wrong with Broadway musicals, audio books, or TV - but when used in excess it's a waste of valuable time. So we simply have less "dessert" available and more "meat" and we're all growing again spiritually and in character, catching vision for our future goals, remembering why we're here on this earth, and having rich conversations! Praise the Lord. *smile* This woman is seriously insane.
  20. Because clearly her 47 previous posts on the topic are not enough
  21. largefamiliesonpurpose.com/2011/04/large-families-on-purpose-our-home.html I don't get tired of Erika's particular brand of crazy. There is so much to comment on. The way she stacks up her children like rabbits in a coop... When she had a baby it would sleep in her closet. Those bunk beds in front of windows have got to be a hazard in case of a fire. It's kind of impressive really how they fit 11 people in an pretty small house. I think the lack of space and privacy would drive me crazy though. You can't be claustrophobic to be a Shupe kid. Interesting how Erika herself has a comfortable bedroom and closet, God forbid she give the master bedroom to the 5 girls.